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Old 03-21-2013, 12:27 PM   #226
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I can think of numerous "liberals" who have been fighting for this as well.
I can't but I salute those who do. I also realize they're in the minority on the left side of the aisle.


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I think that most conservatives in regards to social policy fit the dinosaur moniker quite well.
Because you're on the left, and the left generally hack snot at anything that remotely resembles traditional identity, culture, and morals.

Some may be impressed by appeals to novelty, but I am not.


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Yet they have me as an uncle and a variety of other male role models who play an integral part of their life foundation. I can't offer much now as we are ~2,000 miles apart, but I think they will be just fine. Before they moved and I moved to opposite sides of the country, I was seeing them as often as I could and sharing good life experiences with them.
Uncles aren't fathers. Black children in fatherless homes have grandmothers and aunts, and you know what? It still isn't helping.

They need their biological parents - both of them.

And yes, slapping equals signs all over doesn't change that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:38 PM   #227
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I hack snot at people who sit in their ivory towers and believe that their way of life is a best fit for everyone. I have generally come to find that people who do that, regardless of how they identify themselves, tend to be some of the most culturally inept and moral bankrupt people on the planet.

I have witnessed it first hand over the past year being back in my homestate that has seen a surprising spike in diversity due to immigrants from the Asian and Hispanic diasporas. I think it is good for the state, especially my hometown that has seen a bigger economic boom due in part to the influx of foreigners here. The icing on the cake is that it is much to the chagrin of conservatives across the board who throw temper tantrums like children and demonize these people for being here.

Who would want to identify themselves with such a "traditional identity, cultural and moral system."? Definitely not me.

And BTW, I anxiously await your successful stories on endeavors in heterosexual parenting, but I'm guessing that you aren't a parent. Once again, sorry to illuminate the reality that homosexual couples can be fantastic parents. I know it goes against your archaic dogma, but sometimes the truth hurts.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:40 PM   #228
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And if all the guns used to murder people were acquired illegally, that might be some semblance of a point!
take domestic violence out of the equation and I bet you the % is damn near90 or higher that it was acquired illegally.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:45 PM   #229
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Thta is fine no one can take your gun. If you want another one you'll just have to go outside Colorado to buy it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:13 PM   #230
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Thta is fine no one can take your gun. If you want another one you'll just have to go outside Colorado to buy it.
I'm sure you feel safer already
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:44 PM   #231
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are you really saying criminals commit crimes anyway so there shouldn't be laws? come on now, these laws aren't meant to end all gun violence, but they will help make it harder on the criminals. How you could think mandatory background checks for everyone is a bad thing is beyond me.
so will there be 2 windows at the background check counter in the courthouse? you know the one where the criminals line up and one where the law abiding citizens lineup.... once again I've not heard one person come up with an idea that keeps guns out of criminals hands.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:47 PM   #232
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so you are more upset at what "might" happen, rather then what is happening? good luck with that.
I guess you're the kinda guy that lets his engine blow up instead of changing the oil and do any preventive maintenance?

like Barney Fife said you need to "nip it in the bud"
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:48 PM   #233
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I guess you're the kinda guy that lets is engine blow up instead of change the wall and do any preventive maintenance?

like Barney Fife said you need to "nip it in the bud"
nope not at all. I just know that they aren't going to take away anyones guns. that simple. I don't worry about stuff that has no chance in happening.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:51 PM   #234
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So you are all for a law that does nothing?
.....aren't you?
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:53 PM   #235
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Well if a person has to go to the black market to get a gun rather than a store because they know they wont pass a background check, then it makes it harder on them.
If it's so hard for them to get it on the black market how are they getting the guns..... once again you've not stopped a single criminal from doing anything..
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:58 PM   #236
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If it's so hard for them to get it on the black market how are they getting the guns..... once again you've not stopped a single criminal from doing anything..
I didn't say it was hard to get them on the black market. I said it is harder then going to the store or online and ordering them and waiting for a background check. big difference
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.....aren't you?
if you read anything I wrote. you would know I said that I think that the laws passed do something.
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All these arguments are stupid.

Size of clips, Assault rifles, back ground check... come on guys no big deal. We had these for 10 years in the 90's and you people didn't even notice.
well, at least your argument is.....

what you fail to notice is that back in the day when they had all these laws- it did not reduce violent crime
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take domestic violence out of the equation and I bet you the % is damn near90 or higher that it was acquired illegally.
Isn't cherry picking numbers fun?
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:28 PM   #240
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I could care less either way to tell you the truth.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:31 PM   #241
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Isn't cherry picking numbers fun?
its not cherry picking at all, its because domerstic violence is usually heat of moment thing where most of these killings, robberies and gang violence where guns are used are usually not
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:42 PM   #242
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All these arguments are stupid.

Size of clips, Assault rifles, back ground check... come on guys no big deal. We had these for 10 years in the 90's and you people didn't even notice.



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well, at least your argument is.....

what you fail to notice is that back in the day when they had all these laws- it did not reduce violent crime
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #243
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:58 PM   #244
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HAHA, well, I am in favor of background checks, assault weapon ban, but i don't care. I live near Dallas. We are all shooting each other anyway.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:01 PM   #245
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HAHA, well, I am in favor of background checks, assault weapon ban, but i don't care. I live near Dallas. We are all shooting each other anyway.
just shoot the ones in the cartel

errrr...is that racist?
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:20 PM   #246
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Forget about the guns. Canadians have a lot of guns, per capita. It's the rate of violence. Why are Americans so prone to violence? That's the question. Watch this, if you can stuff your ideology long enough to learn something from outside the bubble:

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Old 03-21-2013, 04:56 PM   #249
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So we shouldn't bother with laws because people will break them eh? Jesus you NRA types are god damn daft.
Gun owners are very afraid that a list of gun owners will lead to the govt coming to your house to inspect the guns, inspect the storage and otherwise have your home invaded because you own guns.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #250
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Next thing you know there will be speed limits. And legal drinking ages. And age of consent laws. What freedoms will these fascists take away next!
A better example would be why do cars need to be able to go so fast. Shouldn't we make it to where they are unable to go say over 80 mph? We sell cars that are just way to fast. Who needs a Corvette that does 200mph?
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