Dumervil situation is kinda sad but it could be a sticky situation if he takes the pay cut. - The Orange Mane

KevinJames · 03-13-2013, 07:17 PM

(I know I made the Dumervil memories thread because I sadly believe he is gone, but I hope not I really want to be wrong, hes a great player 3rd or 4th best player on the team.)

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Rabb · 03-13-2013, 07:20 PM

Br0nc0Buster · 03-13-2013, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

I honestly think they feel they can scheme out Doom, and would rather use his cap room to fill up other needs
Maybe they are really high on Ayers, maybe they like some of the guys in this rookie class
I wouldnt be surprised if they fill they can get acceptable production from a guy like Ayers and a pass rushing specialist for a fraction of Dooms cost in order to sign Welker, Pot Roast, etc...

I really hope they can work it out to keep Doom, but I dont think that will happen

KevinJames · 03-13-2013, 07:21 PM

Doom is one of my favorite players, thought he was going to be a Bronco for life.

RMT · 03-13-2013, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

The guy made upwards of $10,000,000 in 2010 to rehab a preseason injury that cost him the entire season. I'm not blaming him for that, but it goes both ways. While $6M may seem a bit low, I do not feel it is an insulting request from the Broncos.

DivineLegion · 03-13-2013, 07:23 PM

$20 says the Pats sign Doom if we release him.

Broncojef · 03-13-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Kruger set the market as the first to get signed to a team with big bucks and he only commanded $8Mill. I think Avril was the best DE on the market (including Doom) and he took $7.5. Not only has the max value been set, the teams with large bankrolls are spending it on the current guys available. Doom and his agent decided to test the Broncos and the market, the game is being played around their decision. Making a poor decision has cost him money and if he's bitter about it he can walk and take less money elsewhere.

sirhcyennek81 · 03-13-2013, 07:25 PM

Maybe they feel $12 mil a year is a bit much for a one dimensional defender. The market thus far is showing DE's earning between 7 and 8 million. Broncos asking Dumervil to take a cut in that range is to be expected. Its up to him where he plays this season.

errand · 03-13-2013, 07:29 PM

Maybe they offered him $6 mill because they figured they'd have to spend $10 mill on Welker....and now since Welker signed for 46 mil, they'll boost their take it or leave it offer to $10mil....who knows?

He hasn't been released yet, and that's a good sign.

MagicHef · 03-13-2013, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames

(I know I made the Dumervil memories thread because I sadly believe he is gone, but I hope not I really want to be wrong, hes a great player 3rd or 4th best player on the team.)

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Where did this information come from?

Br0nc0Buster · 03-13-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Where did this information come from?

Brandon Spano lol

sirhcyennek81 · 03-13-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand

Maybe they offered him $6 mill because they figured they'd have to spend $10 mill on Welker....and now since Welker signed for 46 mil, they'll boost their take it or leave it offer to $10mil....who knows?

He hasn't been released yet, and that's a good sign.

Welker signed a 2 year, $12 million deal.

Gutless Drunk · 03-13-2013, 07:32 PM

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Hamrob · 03-13-2013, 07:33 PM

Doom is a good to great pass rusher. At 255 lbs he is a liability against the run. I love him. But, I have been disapointed the past two years with him....especially when you have a guy like Miller on the other side. You would think that with Miller getting double teamed...Doom would have been even more of a beast. He wasn't.

He still will get us 10-12 sacks opposite of Miller and that's no slap in the face...but, $6-$7m/yr is fair. He needs to accept that or hit the road.

Otherwise, sign Freeney for $3-$4m/yr on a 2yr deal and roll with it!

Br0nc0Buster · 03-13-2013, 07:34 PM

Spano saying Manning willing to restructure and also that Denver is interested in Nhamdi(what?)

KevinJames · 03-13-2013, 07:40 PM

Who is Spano? I heard they offered doom half on espn news radio john clayton was on there it was a seattle station I think I live in WA.

MagicHef · 03-13-2013, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob

Doom is a good to great pass rusher. At 255 lbs he is a liability against the run. I love him. But, I have been disapointed the past two years with him....especially when you have a guy like Miller on the other side. You would think that with Miller getting double teamed...Doom would have been even more of a beast. He wasn't.

He still will get us 10-12 sacks opposite of Miller and that's no slap in the face...but, $6-$7m/yr is fair. He needs to accept that or hit the road.

Otherwise, sign Freeney for $3-$4m/yr on a 2yr deal and roll with it!

Miller typically does not get double teamed. Since offenses don't know if he's rushing or not, they can't commit two blockers to him. Thus, Doom normally gets the double teams, which makes his production more impressive, imo.

Agamemnon · 03-13-2013, 07:44 PM

6 million is a total slap in the face to Dumervil. I sincerely hope that number is untrue. Dumervil is a better pure pass rusher than all but maybe 5 guys in the league. People on this board (and in general) focus too much on sack numbers alone when assessing a pass rusher's impact. Doom should at least receive money on par with Kruger.

theAPAOps5 · 03-13-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

This..... Again

CBF1 · 03-13-2013, 07:54 PM

I so wish they would just cut him so the OP will do his last ass kissing goodbye to doom thread. Enough is enough already.

MagicHef · 03-13-2013, 07:56 PM

If the Broncos are so sure Dumervil won't get more than they're offering, why don't they just release him, and leave their offer on the table? If it's all he can really hope to get, he'll come back.

Swedish Extrovert · 03-13-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broncojef

Kruger set the market as the first to get signed to a team with big bucks and he only commanded $8Mill. I think Avril was the best DE on the market (including Doom) and he took $7.5. Not only has the max value been set, the teams with large bankrolls are spending it on the current guys available. Doom and his agent decided to test the Broncos and the market, the game is being played around their decision. Making a poor decision has cost him money and if he's bitter about it he can walk and take less money elsewhere.

Pretty much all this.

Swedish Extrovert · 03-13-2013, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

If the Broncos are so sure Dumervil won't get more than they're offering, why don't they just release him, and leave their offer on the table? If it's all he can really hope to get, he'll come back.

Because the guaranteed money in his contract would still count against the cap.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 03-13-2013, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

Spano saying Manning willing to restructure and also that Denver is interested in Nhamdi(what?)

Nhamdhi is out now that DRC signed

KevinJames · 03-13-2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

I so wish they would just cut him so the OP will do his last ass kissing goodbye to doom thread. Enough is enough already.

I

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03-13-2013, 07:17 PM	#1
KevinJames Not the actor/comedian HA 2012. IT BEGINS. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,760	Dumervil situation is kinda sad but it could be a sticky situation if he takes the pay cut. (I know I made the Dumervil memories thread because I sadly believe he is gone, but I hope not I really want to be wrong, hes a great player 3rd or 4th best player on the team.) So what we know is Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it. Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do. If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value. Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year. I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season? Last edited by KevinJames; 03-13-2013 at 07:19 PM..

03-13-2013, 07:33 PM	#14
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Doom is a good to great pass rusher. At 255 lbs he is a liability against the run. I love him. But, I have been disapointed the past two years with him....especially when you have a guy like Miller on the other side. You would think that with Miller getting double teamed...Doom would have been even more of a beast. He wasn't. He still will get us 10-12 sacks opposite of Miller and that's no slap in the face...but, $6-$7m/yr is fair. He needs to accept that or hit the road. Otherwise, sign Freeney for $3-$4m/yr on a 2yr deal and roll with it! Last edited by Hamrob; 03-13-2013 at 07:35 PM..

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03-13-2013, 07:20 PM	#2
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,245 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller

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KevinJames Not the actor/comedian HA 2012. IT BEGINS. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,760	Doom is one of my favorite players, thought he was going to be a Bronco for life.

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DivineLegion There can only be one... G.O.A.T Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Peak of Good Living Posts: 4,113 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	$20 says the Pats sign Doom if we release him.

03-13-2013, 07:25 PM	#8
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Maybe they feel $12 mil a year is a bit much for a one dimensional defender. The market thus far is showing DE's earning between 7 and 8 million. Broncos asking Dumervil to take a cut in that range is to be expected. Its up to him where he plays this season.

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errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,031	Maybe they offered him $6 mill because they figured they'd have to spend $10 mill on Welker....and now since Welker signed for 46 mil, they'll boost their take it or leave it offer to $10mil....who knows? He hasn't been released yet, and that's a good sign.

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Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,425	Spano saying Manning willing to restructure and also that Denver is interested in Nhamdi(what?)

03-13-2013, 07:40 PM	#16
KevinJames Not the actor/comedian HA 2012. IT BEGINS. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,760	Who is Spano? I heard they offered doom half on espn news radio john clayton was on there it was a seattle station I think I live in WA.

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Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,421 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	6 million is a total slap in the face to Dumervil. I sincerely hope that number is untrue. Dumervil is a better pure pass rusher than all but maybe 5 guys in the league. People on this board (and in general) focus too much on sack numbers alone when assessing a pass rusher's impact. Doom should at least receive money on par with Kruger.

03-13-2013, 07:54 PM	#20
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I so wish they would just cut him so the OP will do his last ass kissing goodbye to doom thread. Enough is enough already.

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MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,428 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If the Broncos are so sure Dumervil won't get more than they're offering, why don't they just release him, and leave their offer on the table? If it's all he can really hope to get, he'll come back.