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03-09-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

I can't wait for the day that you think any CB signed is not a good get.

Rev is a pretty good evaluator of DBs and he's right we need another one.. But I'm with you on this one, I'm scratching my head as to why he likes Robinson. Robinson is terrible.

rugbythug · 03-09-2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Any punter who would trade kicking at the Mile High city for Cleveland has rocks in his head.

R$O$C$K$S$

Bigdawg26 · 03-09-2013, 08:27 AM

Yeah I'm honestly surprised that we want another corner. I thought we were good with Champ, Carter, Harris, and Bolden. But I guess you can never have enough corners, but I hope if we do get another CB he's fast enough to check speedy receivers.

03-09-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

Rev is a pretty good evaluator of DBs and he's right we need another one.. But I'm with you on this one, I'm scratching my head as to why he likes Robinson. Robinson is terrible.

He probably was loving him coming out of college and just can't stop the bromance. Just like how PP can do no wrong. That would be my guess.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

Rev is a pretty good evaluator of DBs and he's right we need another one.. But I'm with you on this one, I'm scratching my head as to why he likes Robinson. Robinson is terrible.

Terrible is a gross exaggeration. He's certainly not a top player, but he knows how to play the spot and has a solid skillset. Set him in more zones like KC will and away from the man exposure he got in Atlanta, and it's absolutely a solid value signing.

He certainly won't beat out Flowers, and I have doubts he'll beat Arenas on the outside, but he'll be a solid nickel if they don't throw him at safety.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

He probably was loving him coming out of college and just can't stop the bromance. Just like how PP can do no wrong. That would be my guess.

Now that Ive completed establishing a permanent residency in your head, I can finally get an in-state school discount in AZ!

03-09-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

He probably was loving him coming out of college and just can't stop the bromance. Just like how PP can do no wrong. That would be my guess.

I would be inclined to agree with the PP part.. But I obviously have a bromance with PM so I would be the last person to cast that stone!

As far as Robinson, hes awful. I'd be curious as to why Rev would want him..?

03-09-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Terrible is a gross exaggeration. He's certainly not a top player, but he knows how to play the spot and has a solid skillset. Set him in more zones like KC will and away from the man exposure he got in Atlanta, and it's absolutely a solid value signing.

He certainly won't beat out Flowers, and I have doubts he'll beat Arenas on the outside, but he'll be a solid nickel if they don't throw him at safety.

No he's terrible, he was the biggest liability in their secondary.

Yes he's probably better in some zones or inside.. We need an outside CB, Harris is great inside.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

I would be inclined to agree with the PP part.. But I obviously have a bromance with PM so I would be the last person to cast that stone!

As far as Robinson, hes awful. I'd be curious as to why Rev would want him..?

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

No he's terrible, he was the biggest liability in their secondary.

Yes he's probably better in some zones or inside.. We need an outside CB, Harris is great inside.

...Do we have an eye roll smiley?

Btw: opposing QBs had the LOWEST QB rating in the league targeting Peterson. And not by a small margin. Will be interesting to see how next season plays out with Revis' return.

Bigdawg26 · 03-09-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

No he's terrible, he was the biggest liability in their secondary.

Yes he's probably better in some zones or inside.. We need an outside CB, Harris is great inside.

I thought Carter played the outside pretty well in man coverage.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdawg26

I thought Carter played the outside pretty well in man coverage.

Carter was great.

03-09-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

...Do we have an eye roll smiley?

Btw: opposing QBs had the LOWEST QB rating in the league targeting Peterson. And not by a small margin. Will be interesting to see how next season plays out with Revis' return.

I really like PP, but I like Sherman slightly more as a cover corner where we stand today.. But what makes PP so special is not only is he a great cover corner, he's dynamic with the ball in his hands! I also think PP has more upside in the future because of his crazy athleticism. Don't think I don't like him, he's a good player to have a bromance on, as I'm sure you would agree with me having one on PM being justified.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

I really like PP, but I like Sherman slightly more as a cover corner where we stand today.. But what makes PP so special is not only is he a great cover corner, he's dynamic with the ball in his hands! I also think PP has more upside in the future because of his crazy athleticism. Don't think I don't like him, he's a good player to have a bromance on, as I'm sure you would agree with me having one on PM being justified.

I assume you think Ty Law was better than Bailey, too?

03-09-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdawg26

I thought Carter played the outside pretty well in man coverage.

I think Carter was ok. His interceptions were on miss thrown balls. I think his youth and lack of awareness and discipline really show.

03-09-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I assume you think Ty Law was better than Bailey, too?

Are you being serious?

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

Are you being serious?

Absolutely.

Ty Law posted up great seasons and great numbers back in the day. But he was a big time mugger and big on downfield contact and benefited from a lot of zones.

Back in the day, Bailey played strict man without over the top help so his numbers were lower.

The comparison is pretty identical. I haven't seen anyone get away with illegal contact more than Sherman since Law himself.

03-09-2013, 09:46 AM

I'd like to see the broncos make a move for grimes.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by elibroncofan

I'd like to see the broncos make a move for grimes.

Too hit or miss for the money, imo. He's started one full season in his career and coming off some pretty significant injuries, especially for a smaller guy.

03-09-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Absolutely.

Ty Law posted up great seasons and great numbers back in the day. But he was a big time mugger and big on downfield contact and benefited from a lot of zones.

Back in the day, Bailey played strict man without over the top help so his numbers were lower.

The comparison is pretty identical. I haven't seen anyone get away with illegal contact more than Sherman since Law himself.

No Law was not better than Bailey and I don't think the comparisons are completely identical, but I think it paints your picture. However, Sherman plays a lot of man coverage without over the top help. Thomas usually rolls over top of Browner. But they mix up zone and man, Sherman will play lots of man. Peterson plays majority man but he gets over the top help. Neither are left completely alone every snap on an island.

I still think PP has more upside..

03-09-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Now that Ive completed establishing a permanent residency in your head, I can finally get an in-state school discount in AZ!

You need some new material your getting a little outdated. Post the article showing PP lowest QB rating. Is it the same PFF that if someone uses against your arguments you say is complete garbage? Rev is the ultimate goalpost mover.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

No Law was not better than Bailey and I don't think the comparisons are completely identical, but I think it paints your picture. However, Sherman plays a lot of man coverage without over the top help. Thomas usually rolls over top of Browner. But they mix up zone and man, Sherman will play lots of man. Peterson plays majority man but he gets over the top help. Neither are left completely alone every snap on an island.

I still think PP has more upside..

As rarely as anyone in the league.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

You need some new material your getting a little outdated. Post the article showing PP lowest QB rating. Is it the same PFF that if someone uses against your arguments you say is complete garbage? Rev is the ultimate goalpost mover.

I dont have any material, scrub. People like you like to bring it up and harp on it.

And people like you are the same guys that would be trashing Von Miller if we'd drafted Peterson.

It is what it is. And I even enjoy your obsession with me.

TonyR · 03-09-2013, 10:26 AM

While we're talking CB, what do y'all think of DRC if Phila lets him go?

03-09-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I dont have any material, scrub. People like you like to bring it up and harp on it.

And people like you are the same guys that would be trashing Von Miller if we'd drafted Peterson.

It is what it is. And I even enjoy your obsession with me.

I was and still am a PP fan. I wanted him in the draft. I knew either pick would be solid and am glad they got Von but PP is amazing.

TheReverend · 03-09-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

While we're talking CB, what do y'all think of DRC if Phila lets him go?

With our pressure he'd improve, but we can do better, imo.

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03-09-2013, 08:27 AM	#4353
Bigdawg26 Ring of Famer Just let it happen!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,749 Adopt-a-Bronco: DRC!!!	Yeah I'm honestly surprised that we want another corner. I thought we were good with Champ, Carter, Harris, and Bolden. But I guess you can never have enough corners, but I hope if we do get another CB he's fast enough to check speedy receivers.

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SlyEli Guest Posts: n/a	I'd like to see the broncos make a move for grimes.

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TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 17,361	While we're talking CB, what do y'all think of DRC if Phila lets him go?