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Old 03-08-2013, 07:09 AM   #176
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doom shines against ****ty tackles but doesnt do anything against top competition

i like the guy but he should be around 7 mil a year


whats the going rate for one trick ponies
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:12 AM   #177
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What are the odds Doom ends up in NE with their 3-4 defense?
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:13 AM   #178
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Not a agent but a restructure in Elvis' mind may not be the same to ELway

Denver does/will not pay Elvis $31 MM over the next 3 years. Maybe $31 over 5 but the FO will not pay Elvis $10MM or more at any point in the next 3 years

Adjusting to contract to a signing bonus will not solve the issue either

Denver's looking to pay a player of Elvis' caliber about $6 MM a year thus Freeney comes into play

And Elvis is just one of many players in this situation so all is not lost if Elvis walks.
.... Freeney is not of Doom's caliber. Check out their sack totals the last three years. Not even close.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:18 AM   #179
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.... Freeney is not of Doom's caliber. Check out their sack totals the last three years. Not even close.
I'm taking salary range not player. How much Denver is willing to pay for a sack specialist opposite Miller. It won't be $12 MM for Elvis
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:23 AM   #180
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.... Freeney is not of Doom's caliber. Check out their sack totals the last three years. Not even close.
Clearly. But the goal isn't to replace Doom with Freeney (or whoever they might bring in). The goal is to take Doom's money and address other needs. They probably feel they can replace Doom's production with a combination of multiple players. I think they know what they're doing.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:27 AM   #181
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I'm taking salary range not player. How much Denver is willing to pay for a sack specialist opposite Miller. It won't be $12 MM for Elvis
You think Elway is going to pay Doom 6 mill per year? Then Doom is as good as gone.

And I don't get this change Doom for Freeney thing? If most of you that say and b**** about Doom is weak against the run, just wait until teams start running at Freeney every time he hits the field. Freeney is an old and injured dino that will only get a contract on the 5+ mill range just because he is a has been.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:28 AM   #182
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doom shines against ****ty tackles but doesnt do anything against top competition

i like the guy but he should be around 7 mil a year


whats the going rate for one trick ponies
exactly. i believe the majority of his sacks came against the charger's terrible tackle they picked up off the street
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:28 AM   #183
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Michael Bennett over Freeney.
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Then Doom is as good as gone.
He most likely is. Unless he and his agent back down, which is very unlikely.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:42 AM   #185
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What are the odds Doom ends up in NE with their 3-4 defense?
dear god no.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:46 AM   #186
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... You remeber the 20-0 beating we were getting by the Chargers? When we started to come back, it was Dooms strip sack fumble (the one carter picked up and ran for the TD) changed the hole momentum of that game, and season.

Guess you haven't watched to many Bronco football to say Doom is not a game changer. Lol, some people around here are just dumb. Is he worth12 mil on our part? In my opinion he is. But if he is cut, trust me, he wont worry about getting another 10+ contract on the market.
Well I guess the Broncos management watched different games than you as well and will be considered dumb along with me. Doom made some big plays and I like him but you are clueless if you think he is worth roughly a tenth of our salary cap this year. He will not get 10 mill a year and if he does I hope he's not a bronco, he failed when he was needed most last season and we have holes to address.
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exactly. i believe the majority of his sacks came against the charger's terrible tackle they picked up off the street
3 sacks against SD. Other than that he had sacks against HOU, NE, CIN, CAR, BAL, CLE (all this teams have good to great OT, and the sacks he had against OAK.). He rode Joe Thomas like his b****. Sure... Dooms sacks only come against terrible tackles.

I wanna see what people think about Doom when he is off the team and we aren't getting to push the pocket like previous years.

PS... so that you know... Von had 4 sacks against that same crappy SD OT's.
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You think Elway is going to pay Doom 6 mill per year? Then Doom is as good as gone.

And I don't get this change Doom for Freeney thing? If most of you that say and b**** about Doom is weak against the run, just wait until teams start running at Freeney every time he hits the field. Freeney is an old and injured dino that will only get a contract on the 5+ mill range just because he is a has been.
Freeney is an example. Who knows whom they replace him with if he walks but it won't be another $12 MM player.

I suggested Doom will still get his $31 MM just over 5 years not 3 so yes Elway will pay Elvis $6 MM a year

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Well I guess the Broncos management watched different games than you as well and will be considered dumb along with me. Doom made some big plays and I like him but you are clueless if you think he is worth roughly a tenth of our salary cap this year. He will not get 10 mill a year and if he does I hope he's not a bronco, he failed when he was needed most last season and we have holes to address.
I am not saying he is going to get 10 mil from the Broncos, I am saying he will easily find suitors that are willing to pay that or more for a premium PASS RUSHER.
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I'm calling it now, Doom goes to New England and sacks Peyton 3 times in the playoffs next season. All you guys worried about his paycheck are silly.
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I am not saying he is going to get 10 mil from the Broncos, I am saying he will easily find suitors that are willing to pay that or more for a premium PASS RUSHER.
We'll see I guess just don't see people breaking the bank to get to doom.
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I'm calling it now, Doom goes to New England and sacks Peyton 3 times in the playoffs next season. All you guys worried about his paycheck are silly.
I could really see him going to NE. They are going to be active in FA. Their lack of pass rush would make Doom and instant target. Hope this doesn't happen.
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I'm calling it now, Doom goes to New England and sacks Peyton 3 times in the playoffs next season. All you guys worried about his paycheck are silly.
Well seeing him get a sack in the playoffs would be a nice change I guess.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:13 AM   #194
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I am not saying he is going to get 10 mil from the Broncos, I am saying he will easily find suitors that are willing to pay that or more for a premium PASS RUSHER.
If they dump Doom without using every last dime of cap space on other needs, it's going to nail the coffin when it comes to the broke-ass Bowlen debate.
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We'll see I guess just don't see people breaking the bank to get to doom.
Well lets see, he has the same amount of sacks, 50 less tackles, way more FFs, 1 more safety, 1 more INT and 4 less passes defended than Mario Williams. All this while playing 1 full season less than him. (both picked in 06).

As you would know, Mario is the highest paid def player in the league right now. You think Doom won't easily get 10 mil per year on the open market? Then I must be right and you don't watch a lot of football.
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Well seeing him get a sack in the playoffs would be a nice change I guess.
1.5 in 3 games. Same as Von Miller.
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Well seeing him get a sack in the playoffs would be a nice change I guess.
He has 1.5 in 3 career playoff games, the same 1.5 Von Miller has in the same 3 career playoff games. Under your logic, we better not pay Von his money when the time comes because he is just as invisible as Doom in the playoffs. Lol. Try harder.
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I'm calling it now, Doom goes to New England and sacks Peyton 3 times in the playoffs next season. All you guys worried about his paycheck are silly.
This frightens me much more than them getting Ed Reed or any other high caliber player.
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This frightens me much more than them getting Ed Reed or any other high caliber player.
Just imagine that. Doom next to a competent DT for once. Doom next to Wilfork would be complete ownage.
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He has 1.5 in 3 career playoff games, the same 1.5 Von Miller has in the same 3 career playoff games. Under your logic, we better not pay Von his money when the time comes because he is just as invisible as Doom in the playoffs. Lol. Try harder.
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