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Old 03-06-2013, 02:03 PM   #26
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Dumervil should be begging to get cut. He could go from $30.2M non-guaranteed over three years to a nice chunk of upfront money in the FA market.
I know right! Taking a "pay cut" is not that bad when all you are doing is getting your money up front instead of on the bad end when you might not get it. I would take one too and get more money up front for the team's "best interest."
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:21 PM   #27
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Doom will be paid at least what he's due on his current contract. Restructure = paid right now and spread the cap hit out. If they really wanted to pay him less it goes like this: cut -> re-sign at a lower amount.
This is what I initially thought as well. But now the report is that they want to get a straight up pay cut, or else he could be cut.... This could get messy.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:24 PM   #28
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Freeney in place of dumervil is downgrading a position of huge importance on this team IMO.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #29
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New info: NFL sources tell the Broncos WILL explore a deal with Dwight Freeney if they can't work things out with Elvis.
This would be great. Straight from whining about a guy making a million dollars a sack to bringing in one who made a million dollars a tackle.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:43 PM   #30
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Freeney in place of dumervil is downgrading a position of huge importance on this team IMO.
Yup, he is an older broken down Doom and really sucks bad at playing the run.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:43 PM   #31
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If they cut him and don't proceed to use that money to sign some big time free agents I am going to be irate. I get that he's a bit overpaid, but elite pass rushers don't grow on trees.
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It would be really stupid to cut him.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:47 PM   #33
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New info: NFL sources tell the Broncos WILL explore a deal with Dwight Freeney if they can't work things out with Elvis.
what sources?
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freaking tight ass owner, not liking this....
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:53 PM   #35
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New info: NFL sources tell the Broncos WILL explore a deal with Dwight Freeney if they can't work things out with Elvis.
where did you get this info?
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A league source tells the Denver Post the Broncos will pursue free agent Dwight Freeney if they can't get RE Elvis Dumervil to take a pay-cut.
Per beat writer Mike Klis, the Broncos believe they'd be better off paying Freeney $5 million instead of Dumervil's currently scheduled $12 million. Dumervil is the more productive player at this stage of their careers, but is grossly overpaid. A return to a 4-3 defense could also help Freeney rebound from a rough 2012. This won't be the last we hear of Freeney potentially reuniting with Peyton Manning.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...run-at-freeney
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:55 PM   #37
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what sources?
Who other than Klis. He also said a few days ago we are expected to tender Lance Ball. Plus it all comes from a source that told him. Lol.

Klis is like a monkey throwing **** at the wall and expecting some of it to stick.
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where did you get this info?
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Dwight Freeney would be on Broncos radar if they canít work out new deal with Elvis Dumervil

By Mike Klis The Denver Post


If the Broncos canít work a pay reduction with Elvis Dumervil, a league source said the team would be interested in pursuing former Indianapolis Colt pass rusher and Peyton Manning teammate Dwight Freeney.

The Colts have already announced they would allow Freeney to enter free agency when the market opens Tuesday.

Freeney at 33 is no longer considered the pass rusher that Dumervil is at 29. Freeney had 5 and 8.5 sacks the past two seasons; Dumervil had 11 and 9.5. But the thinking would be the Broncos might be better off getting Freeney at, say, $5 million than Dumervil at $12 million, and using the $7 million difference on players that could fill needs elsewhere on the roster.

For now, the Broncosí first wish is for Dumervil to return on a reduced salary. But with the franchise tag for defensive ends at $11.175 million ó or $825,000 less than what Dumervil is scheduled to make in 2013 ó he doesnít figure to be receptive to a substantial cut.
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Klis and Legwold are paper John Claytons
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this is starting to worry me. just outright dumping doom is crazytalk.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:11 PM   #42
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McDaniels is a freaking idiot. He signs Dumervil to a 6 year $60M deal in 2010 and only pays him $1M in the first year. Piling basically $15M per year on the next several years.

If McDaniels would have paid Elvis the going rate in 2010, we wouldn't have this problem today. What an utter moron.

At least it will be resolved by March 17th. Dumervil's salary becomes fully guaranteed on that date.

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Old 03-06-2013, 03:16 PM   #43
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I wonder who the Broncos are trying to sign that they need Dumervil to take a pay cut? Does it have to do with Revis?

At least it will be resolved by March 17th. Dumervil's salary becomes fully guaranteed on that date.

Champ is set to make $10.5M...I wonder if that is their target figure? That would indicate a pay cut of $3M. Cutting Elvis would not be smart. Dead money is $4.5M. They would sign Freeney and only save $3M. Not a good move.
The article posted earlier suggests it doesn't have anything to do with cap space. They just don't want to pay him $12 million this season. Probably goes back to the "operating budget" Elway has referred to in the past.
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Like I said, a cheap ass owner. He gets another golden ticket and he is going to **** it up. unbelievable.
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Like I said, a cheap ass owner. He gets another golden ticket and he is going to **** it up. unbelievable.
The fact that they would be replacing the amount they save with another player makes what you are saying pretty silly.
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I don't see where releasing him benefits this team in any way if freeney is the replacement. He didnt struggle cause of a 3-4, he struggled cause his best days are long gone. Will be interesting to see what cliff Avril brings to the table. His contract will be more or less than doom? He's the best there is IMO.
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The fact that they would be replacing the amount they save with another player makes what you are saying pretty silly.
You sure about that (i.e. they will spend the $12mil that would have gone to Doom)
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Like I said, a cheap ass owner. He gets another golden ticket and he is going to **** it up. unbelievable.
It's not that. It's McDaniels and Xanders. Elvis signed a 6 year $60M contract, which only had a cap hit of $1M the year McDaniels was fired.

This is the last vestige of McDaniels efforts to bury the Broncos. Except now we need another RB (to replace Knowshon), another DT (to replace Ayers), and another CB (to replace Alphonso Smith).

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I don't see where releasing him benefits this team in any way if freeney is the replacement. He didnt struggle cause of a 3-4, he struggled cause his best days are long gone. Will be interesting to see what cliff Avril brings to the table. His contract will be more or less than doom? He's the best there is IMO.
Yeah, we are not getting Avril. He turned down a $10mil/season deal last year and has previously stated he wants mario williams money.
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