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Old 03-05-2013, 12:37 PM   #151
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If this happens it'll show me Elway is going offense in the draft.

Send Doom and the 1st for Revis and their 3rd....

Swope, Quessenbery, Stepfan in the 2nd/3rd, Fatty DT or S in the 4th, FA De to go along with Wolfe/Ayers/Jackson.....BAM
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:48 PM   #152
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In what universe is Reagor a hit? He was a solid player. Nothing special.

So in his Bronco tenure of drafting (all rounds) he hit on 2 players that could do that job at a great level (pryce and doom). That just proves that elite talent doesn't come around very often. Take into account that I have now said all his picks spent on the position, only 2 of them have produced at elite lvl. 2 players picked almost 10 year apart. Spin away!
He played 10 years in the NFL, that is a hit.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:49 PM   #153
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If this happens it'll show me Elway is going offense in the draft.

Send Doom and the 1st for Revis and their 3rd....

Swope, Quessenbery, Stepfan in the 2nd/3rd, Fatty DT or S in the 4th, FA De to go along with Wolfe/Ayers/Jackson.....BAM
Maybe, I think they could still do this trade and then pick a DT in the first.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:08 PM   #154
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You can make the case that Doom is overcompensated. But it's not like you can just pawn overcompensated players off on other teams free of charge. To get rid of overcompensating him, you're going to have to overcompensate any team involved in a trade for him.

Meaning we'll probably either eat part of Doom's contract anyway, or give up big time on the draft. Or both.

Don't know why you want to risk the league's best pass rush just so you can pad a mostly solid group of corners, all the while ignoring the softest part of the defense. Once you guarantee a player money, you always own that decision in one form or another.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:09 PM   #155
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If Gholston actually stays dedicated to the game and puts in 100% effort like he SHOULD, he can be a game changer. Lets hope he doesn't end up like his dumb brother.
If he learned from his dumb ass brother, he could easily be a 10 + sack guy in the NFL. If not, bust city. Best boon or bust DE in the draft imo.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:26 PM   #156
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He was saying at pick 28 or after wouldn't have the same impact(production) as doom this year. But Mark Anderson squashes that arguement
I'm not sure that "It happened once 7 seasons ago" is quite squashing the argument. Whether it's impossible or just 99.5% unlikely doesn't matter all that much.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #157
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Comparing a rookie to what a guy who was in the NFl for 6 or 7 years can do was stupid to begin with. Hence why MagicHelp is no longer posting because he got pwned.

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #158
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So in order to be worth it in terms of value as Rabb just mentioned. Does a rookie or FA need to get 11.5 sacks and match Dooms production? The extra blanket coverage will make lesser talented players better when they have 2-3 extra seconds to reach the QB.
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I've already said this trade would make our defense better. I was just arguing with the idea that Doom is nothing special and could be easily replaced with a rookie.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:33 PM   #159
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Hopefully we get to put your assumption to the test.

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:35 PM   #160
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:36 PM   #161
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I'm not sure that "It happened once 7 seasons ago" is quite squashing the argument. Whether it's impossible or just 99.5% unlikely doesn't matter all that much.
It's the OM though. Gotta make sure your words are 100% clear. Using "like ever. In league history" is gonna get refuted
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:43 PM   #162
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this will be our undoing if true

Remember the same being said when we traded Portis for Bailey...........
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:45 PM   #163
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Comparing a rookie to what a guy who was in the NFl for 6 or 7 years can do was stupid to begin with. Hence why MagicHelp is no longer posting because he got pwned.

PPWENENNEDN!
You just live in your own little world, don't you? I was only comparing rookies to a 6th year pro because of your comments to the same effect.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:46 PM   #164
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Trade Doom and a 2nd for Revis and then sign John Abraham..ala ka zaam! Super Bowl.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:56 PM   #166
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It's the OM though. Gotta make sure your words are 100% clear. Using "like ever. In league history" is gonna get refuted
You're right, it turned out to be one guy, not zero like I thought. I'm very ashamed.

The point still stands, though.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:03 PM   #167
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You're right, it turned out to be one guy, not zero like I thought. I'm very ashamed.

The point still stands, though.
I'm just bustin your balls. The whole point is replacing dooms production with a rookie at 28 or after is almost impossible. Lost in all this is a lockdown corner who makes a QB hold onto the ball just a bit longer making sacks a bit easier. Doom would benefit with Revis on the field. If there was a way to not include doom it would be great. That's mostly likely not gonna happen though
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I'm just bustin your balls. The whole point is replacing dooms production with a rookie at 28 or after is almost impossible. Lost in all this is a lockdown corner who makes a QB hold onto the ball just a bit longer making sacks a bit easier. Doom would benefit with Revis on the field. If there was a way to not include doom it would be great. That's mostly likely not gonna happen though
I'd be all for a Doom-Revis trade, maybe even throwing in some late picks. I don't want to give up any valuable picks, though.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:16 PM   #169
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:17 PM   #170
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I'm just bustin your balls. The whole point is replacing dooms production with a rookie at 28 or after is almost impossible. Lost in all this is a lockdown corner who makes a QB hold onto the ball just a bit longer making sacks a bit easier. Doom would benefit with Revis on the field. If there was a way to not include doom it would be great. That's mostly likely not gonna happen though
I can't figure out why the Jets would want Doom at all. If getting rid of Revis is to help stockpile for a rebuild, it would make no sense to trade him for a cap anchor like Elvis. Unless the deal were ridiculously sweetened with cash or picks.

Sometimes you keep overpayed players when you're in win now mode. But that doesn't make sense for a team who's firesale-ing for the future.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:29 PM   #171
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:35 PM   #172
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I can't figure out why the Jets would want Doom at all. If getting rid of Revis is to help stockpile for a rebuild, it would make no sense to trade him for a cap anchor like Elvis. Unless the deal were ridiculously sweetened with cash or picks.

Sometimes you keep overpayed players when you're in win now mode. But that doesn't make sense for a team who's firesale-ing for the future.
I can't figure out anything the jets do.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:41 PM   #173
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I can't figure out anything the jets do.
I had a feeling someone was going to go there sooner or later.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:59 PM   #174
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In any case, I'm not a fan. Especially if we're talking 1st or 2nd round picks.
Weren't you totally against signing Peyton this time last year? If my memory serves correct than let's go George Costanza and do the opposite of what you think.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:09 PM   #175
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Weren't you totally against signing Peyton this time last year? If my memory serves correct than let's go George Costanza and do the opposite of what you think.
That I was.

But I'm still hoping to be proven wrong.
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