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Old 03-02-2013, 12:59 PM   #201
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:10 PM   #202
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Not sure what trading pass rushers for cover guys accomplishes

Freeney is running on fumes, no idea why we would think he would be an adequate replacement
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So now winning one fewer playoff game counts as "getting over the top". Hmmm...
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:00 PM   #204
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I guess losing in overtime in the divisional round is somehow worse than getting blown out by 40
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I guess losing in overtime in the divisional round is somehow worse than getting blown out by 40
To get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record and finish with a 9-9 record after getting a reality check at New England is quite a bit different than earning the top overall seed and have a 99% or whatever it was chance at knocking out the eventual Super Bowl Champs before Rahim the Daydream ****ed us.

The loss to Baltimore hurt so much more than the one at New England. The New England loss just proved that that team was a fraud undeserving of their status as a top 8 team.

To look at this teams body of work the last year, and to compare it to the 2011 team and say that we aren't any closer to a Super Bowl championship as we were with the 2011 roster is to admit that you are a dumbass. Stop being a dumbass.

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To get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record and finish with a 9-9 record after getting a reality check at New England is quite a bit different than earning the top overall seed and have a 99% or whatever it was chance at knocking out the eventual Super Bowl Champs before Rahim the Daydream ****ed us.

The loss to Baltimore hurt so much more than the one at New England. The New England loss just proved that that team was a fraud undeserving of their status as a top 8 team.

To look at this teams body of work the last year, and to compare it to the 2011 team and say that we aren't any closer to a Super Bowl championship as we were with the 2011 roster is to admit that you are a dumbass. Stop being a dumbass.

Not sure about the bolded. Denver played well enough to get into the playoffs in 2011. Without that "fraud" 9-9 team its doubtful Manning would have signed here. He clearly saw a solid team in need of a few pieces.

And the 1 seed falling to Denver was just as lucky as getting into the playoffs was in 2011. We needed key losses by NE and Houston the last few weeks of the season to get the 1, and it broke right. Even though in hindsight we may have been better off staying at 3...

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To get into the playoffs with an 8-8 record and finish with a 9-9 record after getting a reality check at New England is quite a bit different than earning the top overall seed and have a 99% or whatever it was chance at knocking out the eventual Super Bowl Champs before Rahim the Daydream ****ed us.

The loss to Baltimore hurt so much more than the one at New England. The New England loss just proved that that team was a fraud undeserving of their status as a top 8 team.

To look at this teams body of work the last year, and to compare it to the 2011 team and say that we aren't any closer to a Super Bowl championship as we were with the 2011 roster is to admit that you are a dumbass. Stop being a dumbass.
ok why is this in response to me though
I was commenting about the dumbasses who keep trashing Manning because they are butthurt we got rid of Tebow, not defending him
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ok why is this in response to me though
I was commenting about the dumbasses who keep trashing Manning because they are butthurt we got rid of Tebow, not defending him
Sorry I misread your post. But the point still stands to the pathetic little tebowners that want to trash Manning.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:18 PM   #209
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hmm... depends on the picks. if we can snag Revis and still keep two of the first 3 picks(obviously we wouldn't be dealing the first)we can take another DE or maybe they want Wolfe to strictly play there?
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So we can't trust NFL Network and ESPN anymore. They're like Bob.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:18 PM   #211
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So we can't trust NFL Network and ESPN anymore. They're like Bob.
One of these thing is not like the other
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:29 PM   #212
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Do you think ESPN and NFL Network were just guessing... Like Bob?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...eal-with-kelly

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The Browns are close to a deal with Kelly, a source told the NFL Network.
Where did they get this info? From Bob?
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...eal-with-kelly





Where did they get this info? From Bob?
Yes, yes
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Cleveland Browns head coach Chip Kelly said it was not accurate that he was close to becoming the head coach of the team.


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Again, take it with a grain of salt.

Incarcerated Bob mentioned Broncos offered a 1st and 3rd, Saints offered Ingram and other picks (not a first)

I don't believe it. I don't see how Elway gives that much up for a player coming off an injury.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ugly-situation

"ACLs aren't what they used to be, it's not a big deal anymore," but (if Revis is shopped before he's healthy, the Jets) "will get 75 cents on the dollar. If he was not hurt, I would say you would be looking at getting two No. 1s. Now it's more like a No. 1 and a No. 3. And I'd want a high No. 1."

This article could have been where he got the 1st and 3rd.
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Again, take it with a grain of salt.

Incarcerated Bob mentioned Broncos offered a 1st and 3rd, Saints offered Ingram and other picks (not a first)

I don't believe it. I don't see how Elway gives that much up for a player coming off an injury.
A 1st and anything would hurt.

That would be a lot of cash invested in one position though and we need a RB pretty bad.

Champ was always complaining about payment in Washington which lead to his being traded, if Revis works out half as well as Champ did then we have another shutdown CB for the next 10 years.

The only problem is Champ wasn't coming off 2 knee injuries and we were able to move a player who we ended up getting an extra pick out of it for.

And if we did get Revis wouldn't that force everything to the inside of the field were we are the weakest?
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Again, take it with a grain of salt.

Incarcerated Bob mentioned Broncos offered a 1st and 3rd, Saints offered Ingram and other picks (not a first)

I don't believe it. I don't see how Elway gives that much up for a player coming off an injury.
Same team that traded a pick for Tebow needs more then Doom and a 1st
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Doom and picks...GTFO. Straight across ok... Id still lrefer doom though
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NFL.com has an article on Revis and they do not even mention Denver as a possible spot for him.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ers-among-fits
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NFL.com has an article on Revis and they do not even mention Denver as a possible spot for him.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ers-among-fits
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CBS Sportsline talks about 4 things that will make trading for Revis very hard.

1. The contract. From the day he was drafted money has been an issue. He got a rookie deal over the slot he was in and it sent a bad message. He threatened a long holdout a few years later and got an above-market deal, again sending the wrong message. That deal had a "no franchise" clause in it which makes it tough to trade him under this contract.

Of course, Revis wants more money now and a new club better be ready to make him the highest-paid corner in history. What makes matters even tougher is Revis, not the Jets, will control where he winds up.

No team is going to give the Jets the compensation they want without a new deal with Revis. All Revis has to do is not negotiate with a team looking to trade for him and the trade falls apart.

2. Age and injury: Revis is 28 and coming off an ACL injury. Champ Bailey was 25 when he was traded to the Broncos and he was healthy. A team is going to have to pay Revis without knowing if he's 100 percent after his surgery. That's risky business and to say Adrian Peterson came back quickly isn't a good enough reason to say Revis will return to his old form.

The age issue is only a factor because the new contract will clearly take him past his 30th birthday. Not the biggest problem, but when the other option could be drafting a 22-year-old with a bargain salary it will factor into a team's decision.

3. Compensation. The Jets don't intend to give Revis away, especially with a head coach trying to turn around the problems of 2012. The Jets simply don't have many playmakers on the roster, and Revis is one of them.

The Jets should expect a minimum of two high draft picks for Revis. How many teams are really willing to give up their first, second and a high pick next year? The salary cap is going to be close to flat over the next few years and teams have to look at contracts down the road or they will find themselves cutting veterans to get under the cap.

4. The competition. The Ravens just won the Super Bowl with Cary Williams, Corey Graham and Jimmie Smith as their top corners. The combined salary for the three players was less than $5 million last year. Having a lockdown corner like Revis is great but at what cost to the rest of the team?

Revis would look at $5 million as his salary for five games. As one coach said, "Darrelle is a great player, but we can always throw the other way."

Complete article here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pa...lt-to-pull-off
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CBS Sportsline talks about 4 things that will make trading for Revis very hard.

1. The contract. From the day he was drafted money has been an issue. He got a rookie deal over the slot he was in and it sent a bad message. He threatened a long holdout a few years later and got an above-market deal, again sending the wrong message. That deal had a "no franchise" clause in it which makes it tough to trade him under this contract.

Of course, Revis wants more money now and a new club better be ready to make him the highest-paid corner in history. What makes matters even tougher is Revis, not the Jets, will control where he winds up.

No team is going to give the Jets the compensation they want without a new deal with Revis. All Revis has to do is not negotiate with a team looking to trade for him and the trade falls apart.

2. Age and injury: Revis is 28 and coming off an ACL injury. Champ Bailey was 25 when he was traded to the Broncos and he was healthy. A team is going to have to pay Revis without knowing if he's 100 percent after his surgery. That's risky business and to say Adrian Peterson came back quickly isn't a good enough reason to say Revis will return to his old form.

The age issue is only a factor because the new contract will clearly take him past his 30th birthday. Not the biggest problem, but when the other option could be drafting a 22-year-old with a bargain salary it will factor into a team's decision.

3. Compensation. The Jets don't intend to give Revis away, especially with a head coach trying to turn around the problems of 2012. The Jets simply don't have many playmakers on the roster, and Revis is one of them.

The Jets should expect a minimum of two high draft picks for Revis. How many teams are really willing to give up their first, second and a high pick next year? The salary cap is going to be close to flat over the next few years and teams have to look at contracts down the road or they will find themselves cutting veterans to get under the cap.

4. The competition. The Ravens just won the Super Bowl with Cary Williams, Corey Graham and Jimmie Smith as their top corners. The combined salary for the three players was less than $5 million last year. Having a lockdown corner like Revis is great but at what cost to the rest of the team?

Revis would look at $5 million as his salary for five games. As one coach said, "Darrelle is a great player, but we can always throw the other way."

Complete article here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pa...lt-to-pull-off

He won't get traded. The Jets can't justify trading the guy who is seen as their best player after the franchise had such a bad year, as it stands the faith of many of the gangrenous fans of the New Jersey Turnpike are unhappy with Sanchez et al., going into full rebuilding mode now without any prospects of replacing Revis with a can't miss prospect is just not an option.

Look at the Manning contract, it had build in safety clauses to allow the Broncos to pull the plug several times during the contract and when he was signed he had been in for several medicals - Revis will not be ready to take medical tests for a long time and there is no point trading him after the draft.

Revis has shown he is all about the money, would he accept a deal without a ton of money up front?

The Jets could only try to justify trading Revis of the spoils were enormous, much bigger than what San Fran got for Smith - and I doubt any team will be offering up more than the top pick in the 2nd round and a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.
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“I think it’s going to get ugly, very ugly,” one NFL source said. “You can’t trade your best player. You do everything to keep him. It’s going to get ugly with the player and the agent. I don’t know how you get around it. It’s very difficult.”


The source said he believes Revis will make a full recovery from his ACL injury because, “ACLs aren’t what they used to be, it’s not a big deal anymore,” but if the Jets were to trade Revis before he gets back on the field “they will get 75 cents on the dollar. If he was not hurt, I would say you would be looking at getting two No. 1s. Now it’s more like a No. 1 and a No. 3. And I’d want a high No. 1.”
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