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Old 03-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #151
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He can sign a 5 year 100 million dollar contract with 1 million signing bonus and another 1 millon in guaranteed money for all I care. Fake money is still fake. Contracts are just for agents ego's.
Well, I said he would get a 5 year contract and you basically called me an idiot for it.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #152
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I meant Montree Ball from Wisconsin.
Ok... way better. Still prefer Lattimore or Bell (yeah people! you have made me a believer) in that situation.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:16 PM   #153
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Weren't you do one or some other dude saying that you would take Abraham over Freeney any Sunday for the past seasons? You know, the Abraham that was supposed to be better than Freeney? Funny how the Falcons dump Abraham and are rumored to be the heavy favorites to replace him with Freeney. Lol!

And yes! Still think he will make 6 per year.
There was many of us that said we would take Abraham over Freeney and no way they dump Abraham and the give Freeney MORE money then Abraham. Freeney will sign the same deal that Abraham did and play one year for 3 million dollars then get cut.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #154
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I don't trust Abraham, I would take Freeney over him by a long shot, especially with Peyton here.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:22 PM   #155
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There was many of us that said we would take Abraham over Freeney and no way they dump Abraham and the give Freeney MORE money then Abraham. Freeney will sign the same deal that Abraham did and play one year for 3 million dollars then get cut.
Guess we will find out in about 2 week dude!

Vanden Bosh signed a 4 year deal 26 mil 4 years ago. I am way positive Freeney will average 6 mil per year minimum. Will he get to last the duration of the contract he signs? Well that's up to his performance. But on name and accolades alone, he won't sign for anything less than the better DE have gotten on the open market the last few seasons.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #156
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I don't trust Abraham, I would take Freeney over him by a long shot, especially with Peyton here.
Oh dear lord.

Player A
2010 15 GP 40 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 FF's, and 4 PD's
2011 15 GP 35 tackles, 9.5 sacks, 4 FF's and 2 PD's
2012 16 GP 35 tackles, 10 sacks, 6 FF's and 7 PD's

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2010 16 GP 25 tackles, 10 sacks, 5 FF's and 2 PD's
2011 16 GP 19 tackles, 8.5 sacks, 2 FF's and 0 PD's
2012 14 GP 12 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 FF's and 1 PD's

Which one do you trust more
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:36 PM   #157
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Guess we will find out in about 2 week dude!

Vanden Bosh signed a 4 year deal 26 mil 4 years ago. I am way positive Freeney will average 6 mil per year minimum. Will he get to last the duration of the contract he signs? Well that's up to his performance. But on name and accolades alone, he won't sign for anything less than the better DE have gotten on the open market the last few seasons.
Freeney is done and has not practiced full time for 3 years. Freeney is not worth the money his contract will be printed on going forward. He has lost the step and desire after the last SB. Plus, he is a lockerroom cancer.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:37 PM   #158
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Id take player A.

But I said I'd take him when the subject came up back then.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:37 PM   #159
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The bidding war for the guy is going to massively inflate what he's going to cost. I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:41 PM   #160
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Guess we will find out in about 2 week dude!

Vanden Bosh signed a 4 year deal 26 mil 4 years ago. I am way positive Freeney will average 6 mil per year minimum. Will he get to last the duration of the contract he signs? Well that's up to his performance. But on name and accolades alone, he won't sign for anything less than the better DE have gotten on the open market the last few seasons.
4 years ago KVB was 29/30 years old not 33 years old like Freeney.

That doesn't mean he will see that money just like JA. 3 year 3 million in bonus money is what JA got and I expect Freeney will be close to that. If he gets more he just raped that team.
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4 years ago KVB was 29/30 years old not 33 years old like Freeney.

That doesn't mean he will see that money just like JA. 3 year 3 million in bonus money is what JA got and I expect Freeney will be close to that. If he gets more he just raped that team.
That's what I have been saying all along. I want nothing to do with Freeney, unless, and that's a big maybe, if we are actually stupid enough to ship Doom and a 1st for Revis. I just think the interest in him will make that 5+ /year that JA got, the starting point in negotiations.

And we all know how desperate franchises love to over pay for has been vets on the decline.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:47 PM   #162
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We need to stay away from Revis
Coming off an ACL tear and has threatened to hold out what 3 times in 6 years?

He is going to command an enourmous salary with again the possiblity he will complain and holdout a year or two into it

Continue to build through the draft

I doubt there is any legimitacy with this rumor though
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:51 PM   #163
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We need to stay away from Revis
Coming off an ACL tear and has threatened to hold out what 3 times in 6 years?

He is going to command an enourmous salary with again the possiblity he will complain and holdout a year or two into it

Continue to build through the draft

I doubt there is any legimitacy with this rumor though
This! Revis is not worth his offseason pay me drama. But in truth is that I still can't get my mind off him avoiding contact in that game against us with Tebow. I bet you that even now, Champ wouldn't hesitate to at least try and tackle the ball carrier. Even if he is built like a tank.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:55 PM   #164
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Oh dear lord.

Player A
2010 15 GP 40 tackles, 13 sacks, 2 FF's, and 4 PD's
2011 15 GP 35 tackles, 9.5 sacks, 4 FF's and 2 PD's
2012 16 GP 35 tackles, 10 sacks, 6 FF's and 7 PD's

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2010 16 GP 25 tackles, 10 sacks, 5 FF's and 2 PD's
2011 16 GP 19 tackles, 8.5 sacks, 2 FF's and 0 PD's
2012 14 GP 12 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 FF's and 1 PD's

Which one do you trust more
I don't trust Abraham.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:25 PM   #165
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I like the idea of signing Woodson way more than trading for Revis. I don't see how Revis helps us beat the Patriots. Woodson on the other hand would be a perfect matchup in a Big Nickel to matchup against thier tight ends. As for the Ravens, who know if Revis could run with Torrey Smith after his surgery.

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Sign S. Jackson
Sign Woodson
Sign a mid level DT (or re-sign Vickerson)
Draft BA DL, Slot WR, and Interior OL in Rounds 1,2 and 3.
Fill in the rest with remaining picks and value FA's
Down for this.

Barrett Jones for OL but that's secondary to the obvious superiority of this plan to Operation Blow Way Too Much on Malcontented Flava Clown Cornerback.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #166
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Down for this.

Barrett Jones for OL but that's secondary to the obvious superiority of this plan to Operation Blow Way Too Much on Malcontented Flava Clown Cornerback.
I like Jones alot with our 1. His versatility is a huge value. The only reason I'm upset if we took him would be one of the top DT's falling to us.

That being said I'd like to add Dorsey to my FA wishlist.
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I like Jones alot with our 1. His versatility is a huge value. The only reason I'm upset if we took him would be one of the top DT's falling to us.

That being said I'd like to add Dorsey to my FA wishlist.
I can sign off on that sentiment. We are in more need at DT than OL but not by much. I feel like Jones has a higher likelyhood to succeed in the NFL over DT. DT just seems to be a tougher spot to project out than most. Not saying we can't get value there but it feels (emphasize feels) like more of a gamble position year in and year out.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:39 PM   #168
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I can sign off on that sentiment. We are in more need at DT than OL but not by much. I feel like Jones has a higher likelyhood to succeed in the NFL over DT. DT just seems to be a tougher spot to project out than most. Not saying we can't get value there but it feels (emphasize feels) like more of a gamble position year in and year out.
Based on most projections, Jones isn't going to go in round 1 and maybe not round 2. He can probably be had with our 2nd rounder or possibily later. There are some medical concerns with him, for one thing.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:45 PM   #169
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The draft can't get here soon enough...
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What does a Doom trade do to cap? How much is free/dead money
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:34 PM   #171
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yeah, that is a smart idea. trade out our 2nd best pass rusher when it was obvious against Baltimore that we didn't have enough guys to put Flacco on his ass. we need to be looking at adding a DT that can get some push up the middle to allow Von and Doom to work in one on one situations instead of being doubled.

restructure his deal is the best option. trading him is wrong.
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yeah, that is a smart idea. trade out our 2nd best pass rusher when it was obvious against Baltimore that we didn't have enough guys to put Flacco on his ass. we need to be looking at adding a DT that can get some push up the middle to allow Von and Doom to work in one on one situations instead of being doubled.

restructure his deal is the best option. trading him is wrong.
Doom carries a huge $$ with him and is the guy who was supposed to pressure Flacco. Maybe the Broncos are looking for a pass rusher that can be effective when the big game is on the line and not against trash teams.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:14 PM   #173
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It's incarceratedbob, count me as skeptical.
Didn't you guys say the same thing when this guy said we'd sign Manning?
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I don't trust Abraham.
so what you're saying is you are dumb?
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:34 PM   #175
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The only real way that Revis make sense is if the Broncos are wanting to cut Champ or move Champ to safety. Who is Revis going to replace, Harris, or Champ? This just does not really add up.
not that I want Revis, but they got this thing in football called the nickel. maybe you should check it out.
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