What happend to Nnamdi? - The Orange Mane

srphoenix · 02-26-2013, 02:16 PM

Curious as to what everyone thinks of Asomaugh at this point. It seems like he went from best in the league (better than champ or revis) to being a cast off in like 2 years. That's a historically bad drop in cb play over such a short amount of time. I don't know if he would be a good fit for the Broncos or anything but I can't believe that he is bad enough to be released off a team.

What happened to him?

Drunken.Broncoholic · 02-26-2013, 02:19 PM

He got released? The eagles happened.

jerseyboiler120 · 02-26-2013, 02:29 PM

Yup, the eagles happened. Not only that though, I remember being shocked at the huge contracts numbers people were saying he deserved. I always saw him as a solid corner and even pretty darn good, but not top 10 corners of a generation like the hype was during his contract year.

srphoenix · 02-26-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

He got released? The eagles happened.

he didn't get released, but the Eagles have said that if he doesn't take a pay cut and restructure that he will be released.

cmhargrove · 02-26-2013, 02:47 PM

If I remember correctly (could be wrong), Nnamdi made his reputation by being an excellent press man corner - which he still might be very good at. The Eagles (in their wisdom) decided to use him mostly in zone and off coverage and made him look pedestrian. He still might be very good on the right team.

I could be wrong, but that's what I heard on the light rail.

Lestat · 02-26-2013, 03:25 PM

the Eagles are dumb as hell that's what. he's a press man corner that they keep using in zone and soft off coverage.
that'd be like the Jets putting Revis 6 yards off the line and allowing guys to make catches and then tackle him.

TonyR · 02-26-2013, 03:58 PM

The Eagles tried to change things up for him some this past season and he still underperformed. So while I do think he was misused some I also think he regressed some and may not have been quite as good as everyone thought he was to begin with. He'll also be 32 when next season starts.

And he clearly didn't enjoy his time in Philly. Check this out:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...-eagles-report

cutthemdown · 02-26-2013, 04:01 PM

Nmandi is a man to man corner and he stinks in a zone. Don't sign him unless you plan on using him 1 on 1. You don't move him around or have him chase guys in motion. You let him camp on his side and just cover whichever outside WR lines up in front of him.

ColoradoDarin · 02-26-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

If I remember correctly (could be wrong), Nnamdi made his reputation by being an excellent press man corner - which he still might be very good at. The Eagles (in their wisdom) decided to use him mostly in zone and off coverage and made him look pedestrian. He still might be very good on the right team.

I could be wrong, but that's what I heard on the light rail.

This.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the Eagles are dumb as hell that's what. he's a press man corner that they keep using in zone and soft off coverage.
that'd be like the Jets putting Revis 6 yards off the line and allowing guys to make catches and then tackle him.

And this.

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Nmandi is a man to man corner and he stinks in a zone. Don't sign him unless you plan on using him 1 on 1. You don't move him around or have him chase guys in motion. You let him camp on his side and just cover whichever outside WR lines up in front of him.

and This.

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Tombstone RJ · 02-26-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by srphoenix

What happened to him?

He's sitt'n on a beach earning 20%.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 02-26-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the Eagles are dumb as hell that's what. he's a press man corner that they keep using in zone and soft off coverage.
that'd be like the Jets putting Revis 6 yards off the line and allowing guys to make catches and then tackle him.

They were showing game film on Revis today at the combine. Showed him playing press and off the line. That Dude excels both ways.

cutthemdown · 02-26-2013, 05:26 PM

Bad news is that Rhodes and Trufant both ran so good at the combine they won't be around when the Broncos pick. Good news is that means like usual really good guards people though would go top 25 don't.

Trufant ran a sub 4.4 and was a stud at the SR bowl. He's not going to last. Which sucks because hes a true stud at CB IMO.

cutthemdown · 02-26-2013, 05:27 PM

Raiders always looked for man to man guys and thats what he is. Still he is older now and past his prime so I doubt he gets a huge offer.

But some team will sign him to a deal larger then Broncos probably willing to give. There are 3 CBS I wouldn't mind having in the first round.

broncogary · 02-26-2013, 06:11 PM

We never had a problem throwing against him when he was a Raider. Never understood the hype.

TheChamp24 · 02-26-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by broncogary

We never had a problem throwing against him when he was a Raider. Never understood the hype.

What? We always ended up attacking the man opposite of Aso. For instance, Deangelo Hall got abused in 2008.
He was a very good corner, but he can only do one thing, and thats man to man coverage.

ZONA · 02-26-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by srphoenix

Curious as to what everyone thinks of Asomaugh at this point. It seems like he went from best in the league (better than champ or revis) to being a cast off in like 2 years. That's a historically bad drop in cb play over such a short amount of time. I don't know if he would be a good fit for the Broncos or anything but I can't believe that he is bad enough to be released off a team.

What happened to him?

Speak for yourself. I never considered him better then Revis and he may have been slightly better then Champ at certain things with Champ being older then he was but I think Champ in his prime was much more well rounded then him.

Who knows exactly all the reasons why he is slumping. Maybe he's just not super motivated with the team he is on and the style of play. I imagine a trade will happen. They don't want him anymore and he doesn't want to be there.

cutthemdown · 02-26-2013, 07:02 PM

Thats how it goes for corners and WR sometimes. Only a few are good old like Green and Bailey, Woodson, Tim Brown etc etc. Others are one of the better ones in the league for 4-5 yrs but can't maintain that like the great players.

Nmandi may just be one of those mortal players with a 3-5 yr peak period that is now just over with. But I still think he's probably a starter in this league.

broncogary · 02-26-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

What? We always ended up attacking the man opposite of Aso. For instance, Deangelo Hall got abused in 2008.
He was a very good corner, but he can only do one thing, and thats man to man coverage.

You say always and then bring up the best game in Eddie Royal's career. I think that was the only game we didn't go at him.

Lestat · 02-26-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

They were showing game film on Revis today at the combine. Showed him playing press and off the line. That Dude excels both ways.

yes, and Manning can run whatever offense he chooses to at a near perfect rate.
doesn't mean he doesn't do one much more efficiently than the other.
and he's definitely better on Revis island than sagging off in zone.

peacepipe · 02-26-2013, 08:44 PM

Denver could use him,del Rio would like nothing more than 2 corners that can go 1 on 1.

maven · 02-26-2013, 10:01 PM

If he's cut, bring him in.

Bacchus · 02-27-2013, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

They were showing game film on Revis today at the combine. Showed him playing press and off the line. That Dude excels both ways.

Revis, who held out in 2010 during a highly publicized contract dispute, is entering the final season of a front-loaded four-year contract that will pay him $6 million in 2013. He is seeking a long-term deal from the Jets that would pay him as much as $16 million per year, which the club is unwilling to pay.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...at-nfl-combine

Requiem · 02-27-2013, 07:14 AM

Voice of Gimli the Dwarf: ". . . he fell."

Quoydogs · 02-27-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Thats how it goes for corners and WR sometimes. Only a few are good old like Green and Bailey, Woodson, Tim Brown etc etc. Others are one of the better ones in the league for 4-5 yrs but can't maintain that like the great players.

Nmandi may just be one of those mortal players with a 3-5 yr peak period that is now just over with. But I still think he's probably a starter in this league.

Another great example is Chad Johnson Amazing for 4 years then ****.

02-26-2013, 02:16 PM	#1
srphoenix 77 rushing touchdowns The next TD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 928 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	What happend to Nnamdi? Curious as to what everyone thinks of Asomaugh at this point. It seems like he went from best in the league (better than champ or revis) to being a cast off in like 2 years. That's a historically bad drop in cb play over such a short amount of time. I don't know if he would be a good fit for the Broncos or anything but I can't believe that he is bad enough to be released off a team. What happened to him?

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02-26-2013, 02:19 PM	#2
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,279 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	He got released? The eagles happened.

02-26-2013, 02:29 PM	#3
jerseyboiler120 Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 304 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Yup, the eagles happened. Not only that though, I remember being shocked at the huge contracts numbers people were saying he deserved. I always saw him as a solid corner and even pretty darn good, but not top 10 corners of a generation like the hype was during his contract year.

02-26-2013, 02:47 PM	#5
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,410 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	If I remember correctly (could be wrong), Nnamdi made his reputation by being an excellent press man corner - which he still might be very good at. The Eagles (in their wisdom) decided to use him mostly in zone and off coverage and made him look pedestrian. He still might be very good on the right team. I could be wrong, but that's what I heard on the light rail.

02-26-2013, 03:25 PM	#6
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	the Eagles are dumb as hell that's what. he's a press man corner that they keep using in zone and soft off coverage. that'd be like the Jets putting Revis 6 yards off the line and allowing guys to make catches and then tackle him.

02-26-2013, 03:58 PM	#7
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,581	The Eagles tried to change things up for him some this past season and he still underperformed. So while I do think he was misused some I also think he regressed some and may not have been quite as good as everyone thought he was to begin with. He'll also be 32 when next season starts. And he clearly didn't enjoy his time in Philly. Check this out: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...-eagles-report

02-26-2013, 04:01 PM	#8
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	Nmandi is a man to man corner and he stinks in a zone. Don't sign him unless you plan on using him 1 on 1. You don't move him around or have him chase guys in motion. You let him camp on his side and just cover whichever outside WR lines up in front of him.

02-26-2013, 05:26 PM	#12
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	Bad news is that Rhodes and Trufant both ran so good at the combine they won't be around when the Broncos pick. Good news is that means like usual really good guards people though would go top 25 don't. Trufant ran a sub 4.4 and was a stud at the SR bowl. He's not going to last. Which sucks because hes a true stud at CB IMO.

02-26-2013, 05:27 PM	#13
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	Raiders always looked for man to man guys and thats what he is. Still he is older now and past his prime so I doubt he gets a huge offer. But some team will sign him to a deal larger then Broncos probably willing to give. There are 3 CBS I wouldn't mind having in the first round.

02-26-2013, 06:11 PM	#14
broncogary Horse Player and Dimwit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,746	We never had a problem throwing against him when he was a Raider. Never understood the hype.

02-26-2013, 07:02 PM	#17
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	Thats how it goes for corners and WR sometimes. Only a few are good old like Green and Bailey, Woodson, Tim Brown etc etc. Others are one of the better ones in the league for 4-5 yrs but can't maintain that like the great players. Nmandi may just be one of those mortal players with a 3-5 yr peak period that is now just over with. But I still think he's probably a starter in this league.

02-26-2013, 08:44 PM	#20
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,764 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Denver could use him,del Rio would like nothing more than 2 corners that can go 1 on 1.

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maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,757	If he's cut, bring him in.

02-27-2013, 07:14 AM	#23
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