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Old 02-26-2013, 06:35 AM   #101
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I didnt read anything in this thread...but my wife blurted this out in the car coming home tonight...

" I dont care if the guy ****s donkeys at night, if he can play pick him up'
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:00 AM   #102
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How fast a guy runs in a straight line in shorts isn't a quality measure of football ability.

There's too many factors that go into running a good 40, pretty much none of which matter when a player hits the field.
So why do they run it? Why do they have the combine at all? After all its what you do on the field that counts.
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So why do they run it? Why do they have the combine at all? After all its what you do on the field that counts.

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Old 02-26-2013, 08:11 AM   #104
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So why do they run it? Why do they have the combine at all? After all its what you do on the field that counts.
It's a boondoogle for the NFL executives to eat at Elmo's steakhouse and do FA business. Only losers on messageboard watch the thing. Outside of medical and interviews not much worth, Even interviews are a joke if a guy has to some 20+ interviews

Is KC really happy that Poe did so well at the combine last year that they had to pick him and not someone else?

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It's a boondoogle for the NFL executives to eat at Elmo's steakhouse and do FA business. Only losers on messageboard watch the thing. Outside of medical and interviews not much worth, Even interviews are a joke if a guy has to some 20+ interviews

Is KC really happy that Poe did so well at the combine last year that they had to pick him and not someone else?
You're crazy if you think that's all that matters...
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It's a boondoogle for the NFL executives to eat at Elmo's steakhouse and do FA business. Only losers on messageboard watch the thing. Outside of medical and interviews not much worth, Even interviews are a joke if a guy has to some 20+ interviews

Is KC really happy that Poe did so well at the combine last year that they had to pick him and not someone else?
This is only half true. I agree that this where the lion's share of wheeling and dealing get's the preemptive work done. However there is a lot done at the combine that front offices take seriously. Those coaches (many head coaches) and scouts sitting in the stands aren't doing it for a dog and pony show. It it was really so worthless they'd have second tier scouts there and be doing other things.
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I didnt read anything in this thread...but my wife blurted this out in the car coming home tonight...

" I dont care if the guy ****s donkeys at night, if he can play pick him up'
You're going to have to unmask the ****s before I'm able to make a definitive judgement.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:42 AM   #108
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Silly messageboard rabbits

You do understand what a boondoggle is? A paid way to get together and not really do anything but have fun. A media event per say.

I've been told directly by a neighbor who happens to be a former coach for Denver and is currently a coach for the best team in the NFC that the combine is a boondoggle.

You can figure out the coach
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You're crazy if you think that's all that matters...
Come on Rev everyone knew back in the early 80's when the combine was started that the internet message boards and free agency would be huge. That is also why they waited till 2004 to put it on TV as well.

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Silly messageboard rabbits

You do understand what a boondoggle is? A paid way to get together and not really do anything but have fun. A media event per say.

I've been told directly by a neighbor who happens to be a former coach for Denver and is currently a coach for the best team in the NFC that the combine is a boondoggle.

You can figure out the coach

My cousin's friend's sister's grandmother's tax accountant's state farm's gynocologist says the same thing.

Must be true.

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Come on Rev everyone knew back in the early 80's when the combine was started that the internet message boards and free agency would be huge. That is also why they waited till 2004 to put it on TV as well.
Brb spending a ****load of money to put people through drills to expose potential weaknesses in their football skills at the highest level

...excuse to get together and eat steaks.

Dumbest **** I've heard in the month of February.
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Brb spending a ****load of money to put people through drills to expose potential weaknesses in their football skills at the highest level

...excuse to get together and eat steaks.

Dumbest **** I've heard in the month of February.
Cold weather and a 4 star steak house is why they are there.
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My cousin's friend's sister's grandmother's tax accountant's state farm's gynocologist says the same thing.

Must be true.

It's a media event to fill the offseason. Best case is teams will go back and review more tape but even Warren Sapp said it about the Dlineman running around in shorts. There is no one in front of them so it doesn't put too much stock in it

IMO, be better if they had a 7 on 7 passing drill at least you could see mano y mano
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It's a media event to fill the offseason. Best case is teams will go back and review more tape but even Warren Sapp said it about the Dlineman running around in shorts. There is no one in front of them so it doesn't put too much stock in it

IMO, be better if they had a 7 on 7 passing drill at least you could see mano y mano

I dont doubt it's a media event, it being on TV and everything.

But it is a diagnostic tool to measure these various kids in a standard setting. Easier to do with nearly all of them there, it is also an opportunity for HC's and GM's to see these guys their scouts have been talking about in person. That's valuable, even if some do not see that value.

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It's a media event to fill the offseason. Best case is teams will go back and review more tape but even Warren Sapp said it about the Dlineman running around in shorts. There is no one in front of them so it doesn't put too much stock in it

IMO, be better if they had a 7 on 7 passing drill at least you could see mano y mano
Hence the reason why they plan to move the combine to March, FA to April, draft to May. Every team starts training camp on the same day, etc. It's to keep football relevant to the media/$ all year round.
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Hence the reason why they plan to move the combine to March, FA to April, draft to May. Every team starts training camp on the same day, etc. It's to keep football relevant to the media/$ all year round.
You realize it's been around since 1984, right? And the drills they do predate that, just came in the form of individual workout visits.

All LONG before people gave a **** about offseason football.
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Looks like Arthur Brown ran a 4.62 forty. He's 6'.0" and 242lbs. To put this in perspective, Al Wilson ran a 4.56 forty and he was 6'0" and 239lbs...
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You realize it's been around since 1984, right? And the drills they do predate that, just came in the form of individual workout visits.

All LONG before people gave a **** about offseason football.
Yes?

And it's become a big media event to capitalize on making lots of $$$$$.
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Looks like Arthur Brown ran a 4.62 forty. He's 6'.0" and 242lbs. To put this in perspective, Al Wilson ran a 4.56 forty and he was 6'0" and 239lbs...
We'll take that along with a big nasty DT please
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Yes?

And it's become a big media event to capitalize on making lots of $$$$$.
Just because it's a media hype-machine and the front office and agents use it as a cover to get a head start on free agency and rookie contracts, that doesn't mean the things they do at the combine have no value. They like seeing how these guys compete with each other and how they all perform in the same conditions.

I will say our front office seems to put a premium on how they played over their "underwear numbers."
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The drills show their athletic abilities, how are they on their feet, can they turn their hips and run, explosiveness, power, and that SHOULD be put along with game tape and help you project what they will be able to do.

If you have two guys evenly matched by watching game tape, then at the combine, you find one guys is lighter on his feet or has more explosiveness, then that would tip your evaluation toward the better athlete.
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Looks like Arthur Brown ran a 4.62 forty. He's 6'.0" and 242lbs. To put this in perspective, Al Wilson ran a 4.56 forty and he was 6'0" and 239lbs...
Brown didn't run with the LBers yesterday. Did he do it today for some reason? I don't think he can. His 4.62 is estimated time.
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We'll take that along with a big nasty DT please
I gave up on wanting the broncos to draft a DT in the first round. I've been waiting for that for the past 10 years, and it's never gonna happen.
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And it's become a big media event to capitalize on making lots of $$$$$.
Breaking news: The NFL is a sport AND a business.
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Brown didn't run with the LBers yesterday. Did he do it today for some reason? I don't think he can. His 4.62 is estimated time.
It's posted on this website but I don't know if it's an estimate or fact: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...013&genpos=OLB
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