The Chiefs suck - Page 97 - The Orange Mane

Br0nc0Buster · 02-24-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Who the hell doesn't look good in gym shorts with no pass rush or coverage?

Dontari Poe ftw!!

but seriously I am waiting for the reaction when the Chiefs dont draft Geno

Right now he has been elevated to some sort of superstar elite prospect(according to Chief fans)

I will enjoy the backpeddling when the Chiefs take Joeckal over him

spiralism · 02-24-2013, 03:37 PM

Strongly being rumoured that they traded for Alex Smith...my God, my ****ing sides ahahahaha

FearLanier · 02-24-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spiralism

Strongly being rumoured that they traded for Alex Smith...my God, my ****ing sides ahahahaha

This is what I've heard too.

I can't blame them. I thought one of these QB's would be standing out and taking command, but they are all looking bad, which sucks.

It appears Alex Smith is the best choice this year, as sad as that is.

I can see us doing what the Broncos did last year and drafting our developmental QB in round 2.

I'm a huge Tyler Wilson fan. If we can get him at 34, I'll be very pleased.

Kaylore · 02-24-2013, 05:02 PM

I actually think this was a good year not to draft a QB first overall. Chief fans will whine but they will probably still use a pick on one to "boost the competition" at the position. Taking Geno Smith first overall would be the worst thing the Chiefs could do.

spiralism · 02-24-2013, 06:01 PM

Bad draft for QBs in fairness but Smith is underwhelming as hell and Reid isn't going to run the safe, ball control run based offence he was comfortable with under Harbaugh. He's going to have him throwing 30+ passes every game and giving Charles **** all touches because that's how Reid does things. He LOATHES running the ball.

Bob's your Information Minister · 02-24-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I actually think this was a good year not to draft a QB first overall. Chief fans will whine but they will probably still use a pick on one to "boost the competition" at the position. Taking Geno Smith first overall would be the worst thing the Chiefs could do.

And you're a ****ing moron who thought a noodle arm like John Beck could play in the NFL....

CBF1 · 02-24-2013, 06:09 PM

More on Smith being a possible Chief from Yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...7921--nfl.html

broncosteven · 03-07-2013, 10:54 AM

kFc bust takes $10mil less to stay on the team for one year.

Jackson cut his salary from $14.72 million to $4.2 million in order to stay with Kansas City in 2013, but the team didn't extend the deal. This is the final year of his contract, and it is guaranteed

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...as-city-chiefs

Looks like they want to kick the tires and Jackson knows he stole money from them since being drafted. He would rather take a huge pay cut than be out on the street.

Kaylore · 03-07-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

And you're a ****ing moron who thought a noodle arm like John Beck could play in the NFL....

Find one post where I said Beck would be good. I rooted for him, but I never said once he was going to be good.

And I see you guys cut Eric Winston, which I believe you and I argued about when I suggested he sucks and you said he was the long term answer.

I own you, Bob.

DENVERDUI55 · 03-07-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

kFc bust takes $10mil less to stay on the team for one year.

Jackson cut his salary from $14.72 million to $4.2 million in order to stay with Kansas City in 2013, but the team didn't extend the deal. This is the final year of his contract, and it is guaranteed

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...as-city-chiefs

Looks like they want to kick the tires and Jackson knows he stole money from them since being drafted. He would rather take a huge pay cut than be out on the street.

Yeah he took a pay cut but KC guaranteed the rest of the deal. He wasn't going to get that money on the open market.

bronco militia · 03-07-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I own you, Bob.

ewwwww...NTTAWWT

KCStud · 03-07-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Find one post where I said Beck would be good. I rooted for him, but I never said once he was going to be good.

And I see you guys cut Eric Winston, which I believe you and I argued about when I suggested he sucks and you said he was the long term answer.

I own you, Bob.

Technically you didn't Gaylore.

Winston only gave up 4 sacks and 25 QB pressures last year, ranking as the 8th best RT in the league.

He was let go because he has an arm injury, and because Reid wants bigger RT's for his system.

maven · 03-07-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Technically you didn't Gaylore.

Winston only gave up 4 sacks and 25 QB pressures last year, ranking as the 8th best RT in the league.

He was let go because he has an arm injury, and because Reid wants bigger RT's for his system.

Alex Smith is your QB.

boltaneer · 03-07-2013, 08:45 PM

I could see the Chargers going after Winston as it sounds like he will fit the scheme McCoy and Wisenhunt want to run, providing the price is right.

razorwire77 · 03-08-2013, 10:26 AM

The Chefs franchise is an absolute train wreck.

Step one: Give up a king's ransom for a small handed game managing QB.

Step two: Franchise a LT for one year.

Step three: Cut a decent starting caliber RT in Winston

Step four: Draft Joeckal # 1 overall and move Albert to RT (ensuring that he'll get pissed and not sign a long-term deal next year.)

Step five: Draft a RT in 2014.

Winning. . . To their credit, most of the Chef Planet seems to be melting down. I don't blame them.

BroncosfanGuy · 03-08-2013, 10:31 AM

serious question, when was the last time the Chefs seriously addressed the QB of the future via the draft? Blackledge? I remember guys like DeBerg, Bono, Montana, Grbac, Gannon, Green, Cassell, and now Smith (probably missing a retread or 12 in there). I don't remember an early pick being used on a QB. KC: home of great BBQ and retread QBs?

broncosteven · 03-08-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Technically you didn't Gaylore.

Winston only gave up 4 sacks and 25 QB pressures last year, ranking as the 8th best RT in the league.

He was let go because he has an arm injury, and because Reid wants bigger RT's for his system.

If he was really the 8th best RT in the league his size would not be an issue.

Why would they want a bigger RT who is worse? Makes no sense.

I watch a lot of kFc games and when Winston was playing he was noting special. Charles speed made that OL look better than it was. Put a slower avg RB back there like Hillis and they sucked.

Reid is trying to upgrade because your OL is terrible. Not sure why he isn't trying to upgrade the C and add a G and upgrade the other G position but I like that he is possibly making the team weaker to implement his system.

broncosteven · 03-19-2013, 03:12 PM

Like this is going to work.

"He guys I am thinking of taking Geno Smith come help me trade down!"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...iefs-no-1-pick

Bob's your Information Minister · 03-20-2013, 01:40 AM

Winston wasn't cut because he sucks.

He was cut because we're changing blocking schemes. He's a ZBS specialist and would be a liability now.

Kaylore · 03-20-2013, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Like this is going to work.

"He guys I am thinking of taking Geno Smith come help me trade down!"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...iefs-no-1-pick

He doesn't want Geno. That article doesn't even say he's looking at him. He said "He's a good QB" and they are looking at options. The Chiefs picked THE worst year to pick number one overall. There are people trying to trade up, and maybe there is a team who is stupid enough to waste a high pick on Geno Smith, but Reid isn't stupid and knows QB's. If he takes Smith it would be after trading back or trading back into the second round.

FearLanier · 03-20-2013, 11:29 AM

Reid and Dorsey went to Oregon's pro day the day Geno Smith was throwing at West Virginia. That alone should say enough.

I think the Bills will want to trade up with somebody to get Geno. They literally have no choice. Who are they gonna start at QB next year? Nassib? That's not selling tickets and it's probably going to get the GM fired.
Barkley doesn't exactly fit Buffalo either because his average arm strength won't do well in Buffalo.

Dorsey said we've had discussions with a couple teams that are talking about trading up, so I guess we'll see if they bite.

Teams get very desperate on draft day though. They panic.

Tombstone RJ · 03-20-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

Reid and Dorsey went to Oregon's pro day the day Geno Smith was throwing at West Virginia. That alone should say enough.

I think the Bills will want to trade up with somebody to get Geno. They literally have no choice. Who are they gonna start at QB next year? Nassib? That's not selling tickets and it's probably going to get the GM fired.
Barkley doesn't exactly fit Buffalo either because his average arm strength won't do well in Buffalo.

Dorsey said we've had discussions with a couple teams that are talking about trading up, so I guess we'll see if they bite.

Teams get very desperate on draft day though. They panic.

The Bills cut Fitzpatrick, right? Wow, this is a franchise almost as dumb as kc. They should draft a QB, but they should not trade up to do it. They need to get a guy like Matt Moore to come in and be a bridge to a young draft pick QB.

I'd be very suprised if the Bills give up much to trade to the #1 pick. They may try and trade up, but I doubt they offer a whole lot in exchange.

DBroncos4life · 03-20-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

Reid and Dorsey went to Oregon's pro day the day Geno Smith was throwing at West Virginia. That alone should say enough.

I think the Bills will want to trade up with somebody to get Geno. They literally have no choice. Who are they gonna start at QB next year? Nassib? That's not selling tickets and it's probably going to get the GM fired.
Barkley doesn't exactly fit Buffalo either because his average arm strength won't do well in Buffalo.

Dorsey said we've had discussions with a couple teams that are talking about trading up, so I guess we'll see if they bite.

Teams get very desperate on draft day though. They panic.

He didn't play all that well in NY during the bowl game because of the poor weather. You would think that would sour the Bills right there.

Tombstone RJ · 03-20-2013, 01:01 PM

Good lord, the Bills have Tavaris Jackson as the best QB right now... if they trade up for Geno Smith they deserve what they get. Right now they have the #8 pick and if they trade up to the #1 for Geno the fans should riot in the streets. They are better off taking Barkeley at #8 than trading up for Geno Smith. I'm guessing Smith will be there at #8 anyway...

FearLanier · 03-20-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Good lord, the Bills have Tavaris Jackson as the best QB right now... if they trade up for Geno Smith they deserve what they get. Right now they have the #8 pick and if they trade up to the #1 for Geno the fans should riot in the streets. They are better off taking Barkeley at #8 than trading up for Geno Smith. I'm guessing Smith will be there at #8 anyway...

I don't think Geno will be there at 8. The Jags just had a private workout with him and they loved him. They also raved over him at his workout (read both on SI).

I think they really do want him. I think the Raiders and possibly the Eagles do too.

The best option the Bills have IMO is Mallet and there is no way Belichik is trading him to a divisional rival.

This makes me feel a lot better about Alex Smith. He seems to be the best choice our brass could have picked at QB this season.

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02-24-2013, 03:37 PM	#2402
spiralism Pro Bowler Need to get away from it all? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Galway, Ireland Posts: 618 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokely	Strongly being rumoured that they traded for Alex Smith...my God, my ****ing sides ahahahaha

02-24-2013, 05:02 PM	#2404
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I actually think this was a good year not to draft a QB first overall. Chief fans will whine but they will probably still use a pick on one to "boost the competition" at the position. Taking Geno Smith first overall would be the worst thing the Chiefs could do.

02-24-2013, 06:01 PM	#2405
spiralism Pro Bowler Need to get away from it all? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Galway, Ireland Posts: 618 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokely	Bad draft for QBs in fairness but Smith is underwhelming as hell and Reid isn't going to run the safe, ball control run based offence he was comfortable with under Harbaugh. He's going to have him throwing 30+ passes every game and giving Charles **** all touches because that's how Reid does things. He LOATHES running the ball.

02-24-2013, 06:09 PM	#2407
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	More on Smith being a possible Chief from Yahoo: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...7921--nfl.html

03-07-2013, 10:54 AM	#2408
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	kFc bust takes $10mil less to stay on the team for one year. Jackson cut his salary from $14.72 million to $4.2 million in order to stay with Kansas City in 2013, but the team didn't extend the deal. This is the final year of his contract, and it is guaranteed http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...as-city-chiefs Looks like they want to kick the tires and Jackson knows he stole money from them since being drafted. He would rather take a huge pay cut than be out on the street.

03-07-2013, 08:45 PM	#2414
boltaneer 17 ATTA BABY! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: America's Finest City Posts: 4,066	I could see the Chargers going after Winston as it sounds like he will fit the scheme McCoy and Wisenhunt want to run, providing the price is right.

03-08-2013, 10:26 AM	#2415
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,260 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mario Fannin	The Chefs franchise is an absolute train wreck. Step one: Give up a king's ransom for a small handed game managing QB. Step two: Franchise a LT for one year. Step three: Cut a decent starting caliber RT in Winston Step four: Draft Joeckal # 1 overall and move Albert to RT (ensuring that he'll get pissed and not sign a long-term deal next year.) Step five: Draft a RT in 2014. Winning. . . To their credit, most of the Chef Planet seems to be melting down. I don't blame them.

03-08-2013, 10:31 AM	#2416
BroncosfanGuy Just Drafted Big Fan Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 339 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	serious question, when was the last time the Chefs seriously addressed the QB of the future via the draft? Blackledge? I remember guys like DeBerg, Bono, Montana, Grbac, Gannon, Green, Cassell, and now Smith (probably missing a retread or 12 in there). I don't remember an early pick being used on a QB. KC: home of great BBQ and retread QBs?

03-19-2013, 03:12 PM	#2418
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Like this is going to work. "He guys I am thinking of taking Geno Smith come help me trade down!" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...iefs-no-1-pick

03-20-2013, 01:40 AM	#2419
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Winston wasn't cut because he sucks. He was cut because we're changing blocking schemes. He's a ZBS specialist and would be a liability now.

03-20-2013, 11:29 AM	#2421
FearLanier Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 695 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Reid and Dorsey went to Oregon's pro day the day Geno Smith was throwing at West Virginia. That alone should say enough. I think the Bills will want to trade up with somebody to get Geno. They literally have no choice. Who are they gonna start at QB next year? Nassib? That's not selling tickets and it's probably going to get the GM fired. Barkley doesn't exactly fit Buffalo either because his average arm strength won't do well in Buffalo. Dorsey said we've had discussions with a couple teams that are talking about trading up, so I guess we'll see if they bite. Teams get very desperate on draft day though. They panic.

03-20-2013, 01:01 PM	#2424
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,283 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Good lord, the Bills have Tavaris Jackson as the best QB right now... if they trade up for Geno Smith they deserve what they get. Right now they have the #8 pick and if they trade up to the #1 for Geno the fans should riot in the streets. They are better off taking Barkeley at #8 than trading up for Geno Smith. I'm guessing Smith will be there at #8 anyway...