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Bmore Manning · 02-23-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Looks like you have sweet vindication. Can't believe Brown put on 15 lbs. You can tell he has the mental make-up, determination, and athletic ability to be a star in the NFL. Good call.

He saw a window and took it. 1st interior LB off the board.

Too bad John likes Irving/Johnson..

Lestat · 02-23-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns

A lot of players taken do not even have contact with the team that takes them.

Damn I hope this is the case here. For the first time this year my annual "Oh hell no, I'll go ballistic" feelings were felt reading this

why? Allen has #1 WR potential. 6-3 210, go up and get it WR with speed and good hands. would push Decker to the slot and make for the best WR corps in the NFL. if he's there at #28 that's a steal for us.

Paladin · 02-23-2013, 10:17 PM

If Teo is there, Elway takes him.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-23-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Looks like you have sweet vindication. Can't believe Brown put on 15 lbs. You can tell he has the mental make-up, determination, and athletic ability to be a star in the NFL. Good call.

He saw a window and took it. 1st interior LB off the board.

Wow, you really put a lot of importance on someone's weigh in

gunns · 02-23-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

You are nuts. Allen is legit.

He's also a WR. If we're talking the third round or beyond, yeah I am nuts. Otherwise, if before that, no I'm not.

cutthemdown · 02-23-2013, 11:23 PM

unless we run the ball better on 3rd down we won't have the plays to work in 3 really good WR. I'm with gunns taking a WR first or 2nd round seems like a reach prediction wise.

I think Broncos would go CB before WR.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-23-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

unless we run the ball better on 3rd down we won't have the plays to work in 3 really good WR. I'm with gunns taking a WR first or 2nd round seems like a reach prediction wise.

I think Broncos would go CB before WR.

Good running backs can be found. However, I'm all for Tavon Austin, though i think there's no way in hell he drops to us.

SlyEli · 02-23-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Good running backs can be found. However, I'm all for Tavon Austin, though i think there's no way in hell he drops to us.

I've seen a lot of mocks that have the patriots drafting him. He could definitely fall.

I'm not sold on te'o. Seems to me if Elway's talking up te'o this far ahead it's probably a smokescreen. After watching the championship game, in which he looked completely outmatched against Bama, I'm not sure who would want to spend a first on him. He's another product of the notre dame hype machine.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-23-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elibroncofan

I've seen a lot of mocks that have the patriots drafting him. He could definitely fall.

I'm not sold on te'o. Seems to me if Elway's talking up te'o this far ahead it's probably a smokescreen. After watching the championship game, in which he looked completely outmatched against Bama, I'm not sure who would want to spend a first on him. He's another product of the notre dame hype machine.

I think as long as Tavon runs well (low 4.4's?), he'll be taken earlier than the Pats pick. The guy is an insane playmaker. We wouldnt necessarily need him to return kicks, but we don't have anything remotely close to him in our offensive attack.

DBroncos4life · 02-23-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns

He's also a WR. If we're talking the third round or beyond, yeah I am nuts. Otherwise, if before that, no I'm not.

I care what position he plays, he could easily be the most talented player on the board. Yes you are nuts for not wanting to add talent on the roster lol.

SlyEli · 02-23-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

I think as long as Tavon runs well (low 4.4's?), he'll be taken earlier than the Pats pick. The guy is an insane playmaker. We wouldnt necessarily need him to return kicks, but we don't have anything remotely close to him in our offensive attack.

agreed. He's be a perfect compliment to the big boys Black and Decker. It's not often that there's a Harvin-type prospect at the receiver. The only alternative at the slot is bringing in a guy like Welker, but he'd cost way more than Austin.

I became a huge fan of his last year after the bowl game two years ago against clemson, he had like 3 or 4 touchdowns. Dude is a baller.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-23-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elibroncofan

agreed. He's be a perfect compliment to the big boys Black and Decker. It's not often that there's a Harvin-type prospect at the receiver. The only alternative at the slot is bringing in a guy like Welker, but he'd cost way more than Austin.

I became a huge fan of his last year after the bowl game two years ago against clemson, he had like 3 or 4 touchdowns. Dude is a baller.

I dont get how he wasnt a heisman candidate...the game against Oklahoma should have put him in the convo period

SlyEli · 02-23-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

I dont get how he wasnt a heisman candidate...the game against Oklahoma should have put him in the convo period

yet somehow he's the third rated receiver behind Patterson from Tennessee and Allen from Cal. For that reason (value of big potential #1 receivers over a smaller slot guy) I think he could fall.

Speaking of Oklahoma, what happened to Landry Jones? He must've had a bad year, they were talking about him as a potential top ten pick before the season.

pricejj · 02-23-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Wow, you really put a lot of importance on someone's weigh in

A few players are falling out of favor (Ogletree, Montgomery, etc.), the NT's are starting their annual slide...and there's a serious shortage of impact interior LB's in the NFL. The biggest story at the combine is Manti Te'o.

All of these factors contribute to a ton of dynamics going on at MLB in the draft this year. It's looking to be a fairly even field, between Te'o, Brown, and Minter (now that they all weigh the same). The combine is all about measurables...it's going to be interesting to see how they run.

1. Brown ran in the 4.4's in HS...so you know he has the athleticism...he has the film, and now he has the size.
2. Te'o has well documented issues, but is a major playmaker/tackler...and he's trim and sleek for the combine.
3. Minter rose before the draft, but he's got to get the momentum back if he wants to be a 1st round pick.

Every scouting site has a different one of the three ranked at the top. Which one will separate themselves?

gunns · 02-24-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

why? Allen has #1 WR potential. 6-3 210, go up and get it WR with speed and good hands. would push Decker to the slot and make for the best WR corps in the NFL. if he's there at #28 that's a steal for us.

Yep, just what we need to make it to the next level. That's what 1st round WR's do for ya. /sarcasm

pricejj · 02-24-2013, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gunns

Yep, just what we need to make it to the next level.

Keenan Allen is like Justin Blackmon...except bigger, and without alcohol problems. He could be the most explosive player in the draft, is ultra-competitive, and blows away anyone who would be available at #28.

He was the #5 overall prospect in the country coming out of high school (as a Safety and WR...like Julio Jones before him) and committed to Alabama. You're boy Eric Reid was #90 overall the same year.

I would be VERY surprised if he didn't get drafted in the top 15...but the Broncos sure could use him.

Bmore Manning · 02-24-2013, 06:46 AM

Goodwin and Austin hit 4.25...

Harper hit 4.46..

Requiem · 02-24-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gunns

Yep, just what we need to make it to the next level. That's what 1st round WR's do for ya. /sarcasm

From the sounds of it, Elway is looking for electric playmakers in the draft to get them to the next level. Allen won't be around when we are picking and Austin after a 4.25 won't either, but I would not doubt that Denver looks to upgrade their WR corps in this deep class by the end of round 3.

Ziggy · 02-24-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

A few players are falling out of favor (Ogletree, Montgomery, etc.), the NT's are starting their annual slide...and there's a serious shortage of impact interior LB's in the NFL. The biggest story at the combine is Manti Te'o.

All of these factors contribute to a ton of dynamics going on at MLB in the draft this year. It's looking to be a fairly even field, between Te'o, Brown, and Minter (now that they all weigh the same). The combine is all about measurables...it's going to be interesting to see how they run.

1. Brown ran in the 4.4's in HS...so you know he has the athleticism...he has the film, and now he has the size.
2. Te'o has well documented issues, but is a major playmaker/tackler...and he's trim and sleek for the combine.
3. Minter rose before the draft, but he's got to get the momentum back if he wants to be a 1st round pick.

Every scouting site has a different one of the three ranked at the top. Which one will separate themselves?

I know that Minter has been the fad pick on this board, but he's a 2 down linebacker. Very good against the run, very bad in coverage.

Requiem · 02-24-2013, 07:39 AM

Minter is good enough to drop in his zones. I still think he's a three-down guy. He could obviously improve in there.

Greene bulking up to 241 signals to me that teams will be looking for him on the inside as well. Good for him!

Requiem · 02-24-2013, 07:42 AM

DeAndre Hopkins is just a natural catching the ball.

Darius Johnson has looked pathetic in WR drills. Can't catch or even get to the ball.

Bmore Manning · 02-24-2013, 07:48 AM

Hopkins attacks the ball like Julio.. Just minus a little speed and physicality..

I really am intrigued by Harper after his 4.6 forty..

Bmore Manning · 02-24-2013, 07:49 AM

I would really really like Te'o, Brown, or Green to be a Bronco. Green is just electric..

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-24-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

Goodwin and Austin hit 4.25...

Harper hit 4.46..

There goes my tavon dream

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-24-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

I would really really like Te'o, Brown, or Green to be a Bronco. Green is just electric..

Khaseem Greene? I'm all for it. I still don't see Arthur brown as a traditional mike. I'll obviously defer to the broncos, but he seems like a much better nickel guy than base guy

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02-23-2013, 10:17 PM	#103
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	If Teo is there, Elway takes him.

02-23-2013, 11:23 PM	#106
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	unless we run the ball better on 3rd down we won't have the plays to work in 3 really good WR. I'm with gunns taking a WR first or 2nd round seems like a reach prediction wise. I think Broncos would go CB before WR.

02-24-2013, 06:46 AM	#117
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,725 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Goodwin and Austin hit 4.25... Harper hit 4.46..

02-24-2013, 07:39 AM	#120
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Minter is good enough to drop in his zones. I still think he's a three-down guy. He could obviously improve in there. Greene bulking up to 241 signals to me that teams will be looking for him on the inside as well. Good for him!

02-24-2013, 07:42 AM	#121
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	DeAndre Hopkins is just a natural catching the ball. Darius Johnson has looked pathetic in WR drills. Can't catch or even get to the ball.

02-24-2013, 07:48 AM	#122
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,725 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hopkins attacks the ball like Julio.. Just minus a little speed and physicality.. I really am intrigued by Harper after his 4.6 forty..

02-24-2013, 07:49 AM	#123
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,725 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I would really really like Te'o, Brown, or Green to be a Bronco. Green is just electric..