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Old 02-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #26
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I think it could change, but it all depends on how they run. I do not see the list quite that way on tape, but if those guys run better, well that does make a difference in their final grades. Few positions are as impacted by the speed drills and 40 yard as CB.
Yeah, that 40 will be huge for all of em.
I think Milliner and Banks have been a bit overrated all year.
I like Milliner too. I think hes an excellent corner, and has a proven record against big time WRs.
I guess i think its closer than many 1st tought in regards to the CB position, and Trufant, Rhodes and Poyer are gonna prove that to us.
I really think Trufant will be either the 1st or 2nd CB taken in this draft, and at the very least he will be a 1st round selection.
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Yeah, that 40 will be huge for all of em.
I think Milliner and Banks have been a bit overrated all year.
I like Milliner too. I think hes an excellent corner, and has a proven record against big time WRs.
I guess i think its closer than many 1st tought in regards to the CB position, and Trufant, Rhodes and Poyer are gonna prove that to us.
I really think Trufant will be either the 1st or 2nd CB taken in this draft, and at the very least he will be a 1st round selection.
Problem with Trufant is he is NOT as scheme diverse as Milliner, Rhodes, and Poyer who can play Zone just as well. As a Physical Press man CB, well he is that and then some.

That is where the numbers will seperate the boys coming out. I just hope I get to go this MON and TUES. Missed last year and I am trying to change my schedule so I can see the defense again this year.
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Problem with Trufant is he is NOT as scheme diverse as Milliner, Rhodes, and Poyer who can play Zone just as well. As a Physical Press man CB, well he is that and then some.

That is where the numbers will seperate the boys coming out. I just hope I get to go this MON and TUES. Missed last year and I am trying to change my schedule so I can see the defense again this year.
I am hoping you go too! !
That way, we can get some good feedback LIVE!
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NFL | D.J. Fluker has dropped weight
Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:55:57 -0800

Alabama OT D.J. Fluker checked in at 339 pounds Thursday, Feb. 21, at the NFL Scouting Combine. He weighed 355 pounds at the Senior Bowl


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Also it the Bills seem to be interested in T'eo.
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NFL | Christine Michael on the rise
Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:53:23 -0800

Texas A&M RB Christine Michael was considered to have had an up-and-down career in college, but his stock is on the rise after a solid showing in practice at the East-West Shrine Game. Michael is expected to check in at 225 pounds, and run in the mid-4.4s in the 40-yard dash. Michael brings a combination of size and speed, so he is expected to stand out at his position at the NFL Scouting Combine.


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Jarvis Jones won't workout at the combine. I hate that.
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NFL | Christine Michael on the rise
Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:53:23 -0800

Texas A&M RB Christine Michael was considered to have had an up-and-down career in college, but his stock is on the rise after a solid showing in practice at the East-West Shrine Game. Michael is expected to check in at 225 pounds, and run in the mid-4.4s in the 40-yard dash. Michael brings a combination of size and speed, so he is expected to stand out at his position at the NFL Scouting Combine.


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Give me 225+ guys anytime over the little guys that can not get that extra yard when we need it..

that or rebuild the OLINE with guys 335 or more at each spot.. it have been a very long time since we were able to get that 3rd and short consistently on the ground if we needed it..

you either have a smallish OL which we do and a 240 type RB, or get the big nasties up front and then hell you can run high school guys behind it..

Got to have the mass..

and once again I'll say it again.. I could care less if they take it to the house from 30 yards out giving up the ability to get a yard every time we need it and the ability to break one in todays NFL with a little fast guy. Give me the biggie..

other than peterson who is not in our league, no one had more than 12 rushes for over 20 yards this past year
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Rk 	Player 	Team 	           Pos 	Att 	Att/G 	Yds 	Avg 	Yds/G 	TD 	Lng 	1st 	1st% 	20+ 	40+ 	FUM
1 	Adrian Peterson MIN 	RB 	348 	21.8 	2,097 	6.0 	131.1 	12 	82T 	85 	24.4 	27 	8 	3
2 	C.J. Spiller 	BUF 	RB 	207 	12.9 	1,244 	6.0 	77.8 	6 	62 	52 	25.1 	12 	5 	2
3 	Jamaal Charles 	KC 	RB 	285 	17.8 	1,509 	5.3 	94.3 	5 	91T 	62 	21.8 	11 	5 	5
3 	Doug Martin 	TB 	RB 	319 	19.9 	1,454 	4.6 	90.9 	11 	70T 	58 	18.2 	11 	5 	1
5 	Arian Foster 	HOU 	RB 	351 	21.9 	1,424 	4.1 	89.0 	15 	46 	78 	22.2 	9 	1 	3
5 	Marshawn Lynch 	SEA 	RB 	315 	19.7 	1,590 	5.0 	99.4 	11 	77T 	68 	21.6 	9 	2 	4
5 	Alfred Morris 	WAS 	RB 	335 	20.9 	1,613 	4.8 	100.8 	13 	39T 	83 	24.8 	9 	0 	4
5 	Cam Newton 	CAR 	QB 	127 	7.9 	741 	5.8 	46.3 	8 	72T 	49 	38.6 	9 	2 	4
9 	Chris Johnson 	TEN 	RB 	276 	17.2 	1,243 	4.5 	77.7 	6 	94T 	45 	16.3 	8 	3 	3
10 	Frank Gore 	SF 	RB 	258 	16.1 	1,214 	4.7 	75.9 	8 	37 	67 	26.0 	7 	0 	2
10 	BenJarvus 	CIN 	RB 	278 	18.5 	1,094 	3.9 	72.9 	6 	48 	54 	19.4 	7 	2 	3
10 	LeSean McCoy 	PHI 	RB 	200 	16.7 	840 	4.2 	70.0 	2 	34 	45 	22.5 	7 	0 	4
and only 4 had 5 or more 40 yard runs..
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you either have a smallish OL which we do and a 240 type RB, or get the big nasties up front and then hell you can run high school guys behind it..
Why are you ripping on Emmitt Smith like that?
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2013 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Offensive Linemen

The consensus top-rated offensive linemen, Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, checked in at 6-foot-6, 306-pounds with 34 1/4-inch arms. Those are all good numbers and Joeckel should have the ability to gain 10-15 pounds once he enters an NFL strength and conditioning program. It was good for Joeckel that he didn't measure significantly smaller than his listed measurements by Texas A&M (6-6, 310).

There are some who believe that Alabama guard Chance Warmack is the best player in the entire 2013 NFL Draft. He did his cause no harm by measuring in at the weigh-in at 6-foot-2, 317-pounds with 34 3/4-inch arms. Warmack has the strength and athleticism to be a star in the weight room and field work. The combine will probably just reinforce his high draft grade.




North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper (6-2, 311) was an inch shorter and 16 pounds heavier than his listed statistics. That height doesn't matter very much, but showing more bulk should really help him. Cooper illustrated superb speed and athleticism in college, but weighing below 300 is very light for an NFL offensive linemen. Cooper's weight at 311 is enough for a guard or center. The weigh-in definitely helped his draft stock.

Wisconsin center Travis Frederick (6-4, 312) had one of the most shocking weigh-ins. The Badgers had listed him at 338 pounds. That is too heavy to play center in the NFL, but 312 pounds is practically ideal. Frederick was a big masher at Wisconsin who beat defenders with power at the point of attack.

Centers in the NFL need to have flexibility and athleticism. If Frederick struggles in the field drills, it could cause teams to project as a guard - the position he played in 2011. Frederick's draft stock would be hurt by him being viewed as only a guard. As a center, he is in the running to be the first selected. The weigh-in was a good first step.




One of the players who impressed at the weigh-in was Arkansas guard Alvin Bailey. He has good size at 6-foot-3, 312-pounds while also having nice a nice arm length of 34 3/4 inches. Bailey entered the draft early in a good guard class and would have been better off returning for his senior season. However, a strong showing at the combine could help him to rise higher on the second day of the 2013 NFL Draft.

Alabama center Barrett Jones is the most versatile lineman in the 2013 NFL Draft given his ability to possibly play all five positions on the offensive line. Jones (6-4, 306) was an inch shorter than expected, but his arm length of 34 1/8 inches allows teams to consider him for tackle in the NFL. He was an All-American at left tackle, center and guard for the Crimson Tide. The intelligent and experienced Jones could end up being a second-day pick who causes a lot of people to wonder why he wasn't selected early in his draft class.

Alabama right tackle D.J. Fluker (6-5, 339) helped himself with his weigh-in. He dropped 16 pounds since the Senior Bowl. The decreased weight should help his speed and mobility. Fluker had some struggles in pass protection in 2012, so slimming down should help his ability to block on the edge. Teams also will like to see that he has worked hard to slim down. Fluker had the longest arms of any offensive linemen at 36 3/4. Those long arms will surely get offensive line coaches excited.




Syracuse's Justin Pugh (6-4, 307) played tackle in college, but he has to move inside to guard in the NFL. Not only is Pugh short and light for tackle, but his arms are extremely short at 32 inches. He was tied for the second shortest arms of any offensive lineman. Considering Pugh's performance at the Senior Bowl, playing him at tackle would be dangerous.

Florida State offensive tackle Melenik Waston was shorter and lighter than the Seminoles billed him to be. He was listed at 6-foot-6, 320-pounds but checked in at 6-foot-5, 310 pounds. He had a solid arm length of 34 inches and should be able remain at tackle, but part of the appeal of Watson was that he was said to be extremely athletic for a big tackle. The former basketball player could make up for it by excelling in the field work.

Kent State guard Brian Winters (6-4, 320) grew from the Senior Bowl when he was (6034, 310). The height was rounded up slightly, but it was impressive to see him pack on 10 pounds of bulk. Winters is in the running to be a second-day pick and that added strength he showed off at the weigh-in should help his cause.




There was an important medical exam for North Carolina tackle Brennan Williams. His senior season ended early with a torn labrum. The results of his rehab and current condition of his shoulder haven't released. Williams was an impressive 6-foot-6, 318-pounds with 34 inch arms at the weigh-in. He has excellent size to be a starting right tackle in the NFL.

San Jose State guard/center David Quessenberry is extremely versatile and has the ability to play four positions on the offensive line. To go along with a 6-foot-5, 302-pound frame, he has 34 3/8 inch arms. That will allow some teams to consider Quessenberry for right tackle. He also hides his weight well and could gain another 10-20 pounds in the NFL.
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Rhodes is the guy I like. I like him more than truant and banks. There's only two listed ahead of him I have not checked out. Dee and the weird name guy, ahiri abilabi Dari or whatever.


I am really hoping we can land Rhodes. So far I think we won't even sniff him. That guy is legit.
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Appears that Shariff Floyd is a mortal lock for the Top 10, with personnel people saying Top 5.
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Crazy jump.
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Kent State guard Brian Winters (6-4, 320) grew from the Senior Bowl when he was (6034, 310). The height was rounded up slightly, but it was impressive to see him pack on 10 pounds of bulk. Winters is in the running to be a second-day pick and that added strength he showed off at the weigh-in should help his cause.
That loud plunk you just heard was Brian Winters stock hitting rock bottom after he managed a grand total of 9 reps on the bench press. The 2nd worst OL managed 17. For comparison Jay Cutler managed 23 reps at the combine.

I can't believe you would even do it if you can't pump it 10 times, I hope for his sake his pectoralis exploded and that is why he came up lame.
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That loud plunk you just heard was Brian Winters stock hitting rock bottom after he managed a grand total of 9 reps on the bench press. The 2nd worst OL managed 17. For comparison Jay Cutler managed 23 reps at the combine.

I can't believe you would even do it if you can't pump it 10 times, I hope for his sake his pectoralis exploded and that is why he came up lame.
My god! He looked good handling players in the one on one drills if I remember right.
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Chance didn't lift. Why do Alabama players think they don't have to participate in this?
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Bench Reps OL:
Jonathan Cooper - 35
Lane Johnson - 28
Larry Warford - 28
Luke Joeckel - 27
Alvin Bailey - 27
Eric Fisher - 27
David Quessenberry - 25
Travis Frederick - 21
D.J. Fluker - 21
Khaled Holmes - 13
Brian Winters - 9

Well, that drops Travis Frederick and Brian Winters off my board at OG. Fluker seems like a 2nd round prospect to me.
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Bench Reps OL:
Jonathan Cooper - 35
Lane Johnson - 28
Larry Warford - 28
Luke Joeckel - 27
Alvin Bailey - 27
Eric Fisher - 27
David Quessenberry - 25
Travis Frederick - 21
D.J. Fluker - 21
Khaled Holmes - 13
Brian Winters - 9

Well, that drops Travis Frederick and Brian Winters off my board at OG. Fluker seems like a 2nd round prospect to me.
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Fluker has the longest arms out of everyone there so bench might not be easy for him. Kyle Long arm length is longer now then it was at the senior bowl lol.
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I wonder if Frederick lost any strength after going down #21 pounds. He is a C on my board. Don't think he will sneak into the first like people had thought.

I'd say Fluker's poor reps are mostly due to gigantic arms.

Brian Winters **** the bed.
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Me too. I want to see Milliner, Floyd, Warmack, Joeckel, Lotulelei, Richardson, Mingo, and Reid. I know none of them would fall to us except maybe Reid but so far, I'd love to see one of them on the Broncos
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Fluker has the longest arms out of everyone there so bench might not be easy for him. Kyle Long arm length is longer now then it was at the senior bowl lol.
Long arms is a handicap in the bench press, the guys who do best usually have short arms and barrel chests so they don't have to move the bar a lot.

Fluker is still a 1st round candidate because he has the foot speed, technique and arm length to play LT.
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