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Old 02-06-2013, 06:37 PM   #101
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:40 PM   #102
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:58 PM   #103
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Odds of converting a 3rd and 7 when you're trying to bleed clock.....
Odds of preventing a 70 yd hail mary TD with 30 secs left in game when it's the opposition's only option.....

Let's compare, shall we?
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:10 AM   #104
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Ummm, ok. That's a COMPLETELY different argument that deals with coaching, not execution.

I'm talking about what is more likely to happen on the field when those two plays are called. Are you more shocked by a 3rd and 7 not being converted or more shocked when a 70 yard hail mary (when that's all the defense should be focused on) IS converted?
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Ummm, ok. That's a COMPLETELY different argument that deals with coaching, not execution.

I'm talking about what is more likely to happen on the field when those two plays are called. Are you more shocked by a 3rd and 7 not being converted or more shocked when a 70 yard hail mary (when that's all the defense should be focused on) IS converted?
I'd rather put my money on one of if not the greatest QBs passing for 7 yards to end the game rather than relying on a DB who has shown he isn't that good.
So different argument maybe. Depends on who called the run play with our 3-4 string RB to "play not to lose".
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Or how about kneeling the ball with 30+ seconds left in regulation when you have PMFM. No hail mary try for him?

Did Moore screw up? Big time. Did many others screw up? Yes. Is Moore a scape goat? Most definitely.
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Or how about kneeling the ball with 30+ seconds left in regulation when you have PMFM. No hail mary try for him?
Rahim Moore wasn't playing safety for the Ravens.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #108
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #109
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Rahim Moore wasn't playing safety for the Ravens.
He wasn't playing much safety for us on that play, either...
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I'd rather put my money on one of if not the greatest QBs passing for 7 yards to end the game rather than relying on a DB who has shown he isn't that good.
So different argument maybe. Depends on who called the run play with our 3-4 string RB to "play not to lose".
Hindsight is 20/20. The odds were overwhelmingly in the Broncos favor at that point, it wasn't a bad call to run it on 3rd. I personally would have preferred a lil trickeration, maybe an end around to see if you could take advantage of the defense "knowing whats coming," but whatever. They lost on a fluke.

But nice use of a tired sports cliche there
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Or how about kneeling the ball with 30+ seconds left in regulation when you have PMFM. No hail mary try for him?

Did Moore screw up? Big time. Did many others screw up? Yes. Is Moore a scape goat? Most definitely.
I'll still gladly be in the minority on this one too for not blaming Fox on that decision too. I know people made fun of him for his "being shocked" comment, but i can understand that. Plus, they were going into the wind, it was ****ing freezing cold, and obviously **** could go wrong too.

If he was given hours to think about it, maybe he'd have chosen otherwise. But in that moment, im not blaming him for wanting to sit and regroup.
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I'll still gladly be in the minority on this one too for not blaming Fox on that decision too. I know people made fun of him for his "being shocked" comment, but i can understand that. Plus, they were going into the wind, it was ****ing freezing cold, and obviously **** could go wrong too.

If he was given hours to think about it, maybe he'd have chosen otherwise. But in that moment, im not blaming him for wanting to sit and regroup.
So let me get this straight, you don't blame Prater for missing the field goal, Champ for getting beat all night, Hester for running like a b**** on 3rd and 7, whoever made the call to run on 3rd and 7 for play calling like a b****, Manning for not passing for 7 on that play, Fox for downing the ball with 30+ seconds left in the game, Manning for throwing an int. No, you have an excuse for all of that. Instead, you want to find a scapegoat.

I don't remember Moore being the big time free agent that everyone was trying to sign last off-season. The big time player you want to put the ball in his hands and WIN THE GAME. I thought that was PMFM. Instead, we run the ball on 3rd and 7, we down the ball with 30+ seconds left. Are you ****ing kidding me? Rahim Moore?

When you're in the minority, it usually means you're wrong.
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So let me get this straight, you don't blame Prater for missing the field goal, Champ for getting beat all night, Hester for running like a b**** on 3rd and 7, whoever made the call to run on 3rd and 7 for play calling like a b****, Manning for not passing for 7 on that play, Fox for downing the ball with 30+ seconds left in the game, Manning for throwing an int. No, you have an excuse for all of that. Instead, you want to find a scapegoat.

I don't remember Moore being the big time free agent that everyone was trying to sign last off-season. The big time player you want to put the ball in his hands and WIN THE GAME. I thought that was PMFM. Instead, we run the ball on 3rd and 7, we down the ball with 30+ seconds left. Are you ****ing kidding me? Rahim Moore?

When you're in the minority, it usually means you're wrong.

Yep, that's the OMane. If you ever saw the commercial with the father trying to teach his son how to throw a ball who throws it sideways, that is basically who you are arguing with. They obviously don't understand how ****ty play inspires ****ty play. They obviously have no idea of the pressure for a young player to make that play when every vet on the team displayed no guts. These are the types of fans that will bring up stats about how our stars played in games that have little meaning.

But don't worry, if there is enough of an outcry maybe they will cut Moore and we can wonder why we have another collapse from the top down next year too.
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