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Old 02-07-2013, 09:23 AM   #76
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Can not believe this nonsense has gone on for 75+ posts. Champ is not going anywhere except back to LCB1 alongside Chris Harris. Eventually he will transition to safety just not this season. Our concern in regards to the secondary should be focused on Mike Adams replacement.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:41 AM   #77
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You're assuming you can get comparable play at his vacated spot.
Comparable to what? He gets worse every year as a corner. Next year he may look like he did against Baltimore on a regular basis. That's what happens to aging corners, and that's why the more physical ones switch to safety.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:03 AM   #78
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Comparable to what? He gets worse every year as a corner. Next year he may look like he did against Baltimore on a regular basis. That's what happens to aging corners, and that's why the more physical ones switch to safety.
Peyton isn't what he once was either. And honestly, beyond the numbers, he did not look sharp against BAL at all.

In the end, it's one game. Hopefully a learning experience like '96 that teaches them what kind of an edge they need to come into a playoff game with.

But there's no time to roll the dice on whether a young player could fill Champ's probowl shoes. Continuity also needs to be considered.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #79
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He's just putting those out there that seem obvious. $9m for a 35yr old CB who was toast in the most important game of the year seems obvious. Nothing more to read there really. I would think we keep Champ, and keep him at CB, after he restructures. He's still a top CB in this league....but, it's time to start getting him safety help over the top when he's covering 4.3 guys. Hello!

What do you think about Deangelo Williams? Do you think we would trade for him? I would if he was willing to restructure his deal. Maybe a 4th if he'd restructure. Thoughts?
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:53 AM   #80
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You forgot IHOP

My google auto correct put OHIO instead of IHOP. How could anyone forget that POS. Worst signing ever even worse than Carter. I could add Travis Henry, Simeon Rice.........
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #81
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Can not believe this nonsense has gone on for 75+ posts. Champ is not going anywhere except back to LCB1 alongside Chris Harris. Eventually he will transition to safety just not this season. Our concern in regards to the secondary should be focused on Mike Adams replacement.
Agree! Get Adams the **** out!!! Hopefully Carter comes back strong.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #82
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Comparable to what? He gets worse every year as a corner. Next year he may look like he did against Baltimore on a regular basis. That's what happens to aging corners, and that's why the more physical ones switch to safety.
not sure I agree with the bolded, but sure, he might look like he did for 1/17 of the time he played this past season or he might be closer to the 16/17 of last season. I'm guessing it's the latter. Bailey struggled covering one of the best deep receivers when he was isolated 1-on-1 against Balt, but outside of that Bailey was spot on for just about the entire NFL season. Good luck finding a CB comparable to that at a cheaper price.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:11 PM   #83
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Champ wouldn't hold up at SS. Put him at FS maybe.

He is physical for a corner. But I wouldn't necessarily call him physical as much as I would call him fundamental.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:24 PM   #84
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Who said Bowlen was tight with money?

We carried nearly $40m of cap into the 2012 season, so that's $160m total, we left $11.5m on the table so you work out how much we spent last year. 2nd highest payroll in the NFL in 2012
Most of these kiddies do not have a clue for the most part slightly more than minimum wage living from pay check to check.

High finance is what they read on OM. And the. From some other slub that is living in the basement because he can find a decent job.

Good post as usual.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:31 PM   #85
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Champ played at a great level all year.

Yes, he had a rough game vs Baltimore. But, if the organization saw this as reason to part w/him, I'd be highly shocked/disappointed.

Not gonna happen,
The problem is no pressure on the QB. Fix that and Champ is once again all pro.

Asking any CB to cover for as long as they were against fast recievers is asking for problems.

Manning killed us in the playoffs way back. Then Mikey thought he fixed the problem by getting Champ. Next year Manning just went after the other weak links. Fixed that the following year and he burned us with the slot guy going crazy on the nickle back.

What does tell anyone with half a brain you can have all pros covering guys but if the QB has all day to attack them someone is going to get open.

The issue was not being able to get to or hurry Flacko. And that is not Champs job.

Did he have a stellar game? No he did not But calls for cutting his pay or flat cutting him are premature at best.

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Old 02-07-2013, 12:31 PM   #86
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Most of these kiddies do not have a clue for the most part slightly more than minimum wage living from pay check to check.

High finance is what they read on OM. And the. From some other slub that is living in the basement because he can find a decent job.

Good post as usual.
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Champ wouldn't hold up at SS. Put him at FS maybe.

He is physical for a corner. But I wouldn't necessarily call him physical as much as I would call him fundamental.
I would love to see him playing center field for the next 4 -5 years.

Having an experienced guy facing the QB reading his eyes could allow him to pick or pass defense all damned day.

But it has to be his desire to do. He has to let go of what ever EGO he has and just make the decision known to JDR.

But it has to be soon so the can scout CBs at the combine with earnest.
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High finance is what they read on OM. And the. From some other slub that is living in the basement because he can find a decent job.
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Case in point. The maroon made it for me.

Ahahahahaha

Someday you will grow up and act like an adult.

But so far you have shown no advancement in that area.

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Old 02-07-2013, 01:07 PM   #89
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Case in point. The maroon made it for me.

Ahahahahaha

Someday you will grow up and act like an adult.

But so far you have shown no advancement in that area.

Back to iggy
Says the guy who in his 60s taking pot shots at someone who didn't even post in this thread until responding to your tripe.

Learn to spell, then post. We aren't laughing with you, we are laughing at you.

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Old 02-07-2013, 01:22 PM   #90
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The Earth is going to get hit by an asteroid...


maybe not this year, but I guarantee you, it's going to happen.
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The Earth is going to get hit by an asteroid...


maybe not this year, but I guarantee you, it's going to happen.
Didn't some amateur astronomers just find one not too far from us (or within our orbit trajectory) that could level a city?
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Didn't some amateur astronomers just find one not too far from us (or within our orbit trajectory) that could level a city?
http://www.space.com/18854-newfound-...yby-earth.html

The interesting thing about this one; They discovered it just two days before its close shave with the Earth.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #93
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My google auto correct put OHIO instead of IHOP. How could anyone forget that POS. Worst signing ever even worse than Carter. I could add Travis Henry, Simeon Rice.........
And somehow when you wrote OHIO, I was thinking of Kevin Kasper...

Doh, wrong state...


Is this Heaven...

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Old 02-07-2013, 02:37 PM   #94
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http://www.space.com/18854-newfound-...yby-earth.html

The interesting thing about this one; They discovered it just two days before its close shave with the Earth.
This happens all the time.

James Cameron and Larry Page among others have invested in a asteroid mining venture.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...investors.html

There is another company that doesn't have as much scratch that is going to try to mine them as well by 2015.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...steroids-moon/

We should have been doing this for the last 50 years.

Too bad our current society is more concerned with pretending it is 1778 and only worrying about how to make more and more money and keep their right to own and shoot their guns than they are interested in finding resources in our solar system.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:57 PM   #95
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He's just putting those out there that seem obvious. $9m for a 35yr old CB who was toast in the most important game of the year seems obvious. Nothing more to read there really. I would think we keep Champ, and keep him at CB, after he restructures. He's still a top CB in this league....but, it's time to start getting him safety help over the top when he's covering 4.3 guys. Hello!

What do you think about Deangelo Williams? Do you think we would trade for him? I would if he was willing to restructure his deal. Maybe a 4th if he'd restructure. Thoughts?
I'd be down. Our 4th rounder is almost a 5th rounder anyway.
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Exactly... Innovation is what drives us forward.

Right now it seems we are in a Red Queen's Race.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #97
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This happens all the time.

James Cameron and Larry Page among others have invested in a asteroid mining venture.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...investors.html

There is another company that doesn't have as much scratch that is going to try to mine them as well by 2015.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...steroids-moon/

We should have been doing this for the last 50 years.

Too bad our current society is more concerned with pretending it is 1778 and only worrying about how to make more and more money and keep their right to own and shoot their guns than they are interested in finding resources in our solar system.
What? I'll keep my guns and money and explore.
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What? I'll keep my guns and money and explore.
Exploration costs money, as it is people don't want to pay taxes to improve infrastructure let alone space ventures.
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I'd be down. Our 4th rounder is almost a 5th rounder anyway.
why would you ever give a draft pick for deangelo williams when ahmad bradshaw was just cut?
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:34 PM   #100
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i want one of these on the side to my space exploration
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