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Old 02-05-2013, 05:28 PM   #101
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Hell, the Bengals paid Frostee Rucker 13 million for his 4 sacks this season playing the same position.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:40 PM   #102
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10 sack guys hard to find i vote no. Why mess the outside pass rush. Broncos just need some stud inside linebacker types that can stuff the run, drop into the deep middle, and blitx the QB. They may not care if he played or is considered a true MLB.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:55 PM   #103
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I agree we should keep him but Denver still has to pay him $30M over the next three years, $12M this year, $10M next year and $8M in 2015.
None of which is guaranteed so if he does not perform this year we can cut him loose and only be out 1.5 ( which was already paid ) of the rest of his signing bonus.

Lets hope he only makes a half a million per sack the coming years. Opposed to more than a million he made this past year.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:02 PM   #104
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10 sack guys hard to find i vote no. Why mess the outside pass rush. Broncos just need some stud inside linebacker types that can stuff the run, drop into the deep middle, and blitx the QB. They may not care if he played or is considered a true MLB.
Ill call John and let him know CUT voted no.

I'm sure he will make his decisions based on that.

Kidding aside every off season we have to wade through stupid threads like this.

How many days till the season starts?
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:02 PM   #105
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None of which is guaranteed so if he does not perform this year we can cut him loose and only be out 1.5 ( which was already paid ) of the rest of his signing bonus.

Lets hope he only makes a half a million per sack the coming years. Opposed to more than a million he made this past year.
I don't think he'll have 24 sacks this season. Hopefully you won't be too disappointed.

Just kidding, of course you will!
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #106
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I don't think he'll have 24 sacks this season. Hopefully you won't be too disappointed.

Just kidding, of course you will!
But would in not be nicer to have twenty instead of half that number.

He had 17 a year or so ago with basically no help.

24 is not out of the question nor would be 18.

Btw I'm not remotely one of those morons that are calling. To cut him. If yoi rapead any on my posts in this thread it is just the opposite.
Cutting does not save a a dime this year.

Now if he does not produce next year 2013 cutting hgh is time next year saves us about 10 million. And 8 million the year after.


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Old 02-05-2013, 08:33 PM   #107
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:30 PM   #108
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What did we achieve with having Champ with no pass rush under the Shanny years get us?
I love this.. this is an old-school OM talking point that takes me back.. we used to argue about this very concept ALL THE TIME.. and people still didn't get it.. i've always completely agreed with this concept and it would seem that it's pretty logical.

I think we need to re post the articles about how we were using DOOM this year to feed Von so that people develop more of an appreciation for the guy. No way in hell you get rid of him.

Here's a better question... Doom or Bailey, who do you cut if you have to cut one? And no.. it's not that simple of a question and i'm sorry but Bailey is no longer untouchable.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:22 PM   #109
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But would in not be nicer to have twenty instead of half that number.

He had 17 a year or so ago with basically no help.

24 is not out of the question nor would be 18.

Btw I'm not remotely one of those morons that are calling. To cut him. If yoi rapead any on my posts in this thread it is just the opposite.
Cutting does not save a a dime this year.

Now if he does not produce next year 2013 cutting hgh is time next year saves us about 10 million. And 8 million the year after.


Sure. If he got 17 once, he should be able to do it again easily, right?

Do you know how many people have had multiple 17+ sack seasons?

5.

Reggie White, Richard Dent, Mark Gastineau, Michael Strahan and Demarcus Ware.

If Elvis never has another huge sack season again, he will have to live with the eternal shame of having the same number of 17+ sack seasons as known slackers Lawrence Taylor, Bruce Smith, Derrick Thomas and Jason Taylor.

Of course, if he did have another 17+ sack season, it would cement him as one of the best pass rushers in NFL history.

But yeah, he's probably not worth what he's earning.
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Sure. If he got 17 once, he should be able to do it again easily, right?

Do you know how many people have had multiple 17+ sack seasons?

5.

Reggie White, Richard Dent, Mark Gastineau, Michael Strahan and Demarcus Ware.

If Elvis never has another huge sack season again, he will have to live with the eternal shame of having the same number of 17+ sack seasons as known slackers Lawrence Taylor, Bruce Smith, Derrick Thomas and Jason Taylor.

Of course, if he did have another 17+ sack season, it would cement him as one of the best pass rushers in NFL history.

But yeah, he's probably not worth what he's earning.
Hey twit your the one throwing 24 out there.

I just stated I'd hope to see him make just .5 million per sack.

Nothing disparaging other than I'd love him to have a few more great years.

Your the one bad mouthing him, like he does not deserve his money.
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Ah another post adding nothing to the conversation other than a personal attack.

An OM special. Only at OM.
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Hey twit your the one throwing 24 out there.

I just stated I'd hope to see him make just .5 million per sack.

Nothing disparaging other than I'd love him to have a few more great years.

Your the one bad mouthing him, like he does not deserve his money.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:24 AM   #113
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The broke the mold with him. The tard mold.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #114
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I think Miller and Dumerville could be more devestating with a DT that can collapse the pocket. Denver's fierce passrush can be neutralized if the quarterback can step up in the pocket. Keeping Doom is a must if Denver wants to win the Super Bowl in the next two years. With Denver's short window you need to keep all of their best players to have a realistic shot at winning.
I've been saying this very thing for awhile now. In fact, I remember getting grilled by this forum for suggesting Doom has had a good year and not a fantastic year. We do need that rush up the middle and Doom will be that much more effective. Right up the middle is where Broncos need most help (DT, MLB, Safety). We're great on the edges. Just need to shore up the middle some.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:21 AM   #115
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Hey twit your the one throwing 24 out there.

I just stated I'd hope to see him make just .5 million per sack.

Nothing disparaging other than I'd love him to have a few more great years.

Your the one bad mouthing him, like he does not deserve his money.
Err...if he's making 12 million next year he'd have to get 24 sacks for it to come out to .5 million per sack. Not sure why you are calling someone else a twit when you're the one that doesn't seem to be able to do basic math.
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