Nit-Picking Tony Carter - Page 4 - The Orange Mane

socalorado · 01-30-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Highly doubtful.

44 seconds on the clock, protecting a score on the opponents 30 yard line is NOT a jam situation.

Yeah, i still dont see how Carter did anything wrong.

BroncosSR · 01-30-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Highly doubtful.

44 seconds on the clock, protecting a score on the opponents 30 yard line is NOT a jam situation.

It certainly was a cover your ****ing receiver situation.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-30-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Quote from Jacoby Jones:

Read more: Ravens WR Jacoby Jones said he "knew" he would shock Broncos - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2JTNRib4k

This is typical of **** people say once they had success. Like when rich people give bad advice and glorify a chance decision as a cant miss one.

Requiem · 01-30-2013, 08:25 AM

Forgetting Tony Carter.

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Yeah, i still dont see how Carter did anything wrong.

Well, he definitely didn't finish the play. Jogging after the guy because "Rahim's got it" in that situation was nothing shy of stupid.

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Originally Posted by BroncosSR

It certainly was a cover your ****ing receiver situation.

Agree.

2KBack · 01-30-2013, 08:34 AM

I know it was the vast majority Moore's fault, but if Carter actually runs full out on that play, he would have been in prime location to bat it away or even pick it (based on the ball location)

TonyR · 01-30-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I know it was the vast majority Moore's fault, but if Carter actually runs full out on that play, he would have been in prime location to bat it away or even pick it (based on the ball location)

Or maybe make the tackle after the catch, which would have effectively ended the game if in bounds.

socalorado · 01-30-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Forgetting Tony Carter.

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I know it was the vast majority Moore's fault, but if Carter actually runs full out on that play, he would have been in prime location to bat it away or even pick it (based on the ball location)

Not saying this is what happened, but here's what I think happened:

I THINK he laid off because he saw Rahim coming in for the easy pick and didn't want one of those blooper reel plays where two defenders take each other out of the play and Jones makes the easy score, not expecting (like the rest of us) Rahim to blow a play middle school kids make.

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

^ comes complete with 2 rounds worth of small school discount

socalorado · 01-30-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

^ comes complete with 2 rounds worth of small school discount

Keep your discount, and give me the real deal.

2KBack · 01-30-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Not saying this is what happened, but here's what I think happened:

I THINK he laid off because he saw Rahim coming in for the easy pick and didn't want one of those blooper reel plays where two defenders take each other out of the play and Jones makes the easy score, not expecting (like the rest of us) Rahim to blow a play middle school kids make.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was what went through his mind. Stuck in no man's land a bit, because if he collided with Moore and the ball was still complete, it's his head we would be asking for.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-30-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Well, he definitely didn't finish the play. Jogging after the guy because "Rahim's got it" in that situation was nothing shy of stupid.

Agree.

This is what I assume happened here as well since Rahim camped out like he was about to catch a routine fly ball. Unfortunately, he judged it like the ****ty kid in little league you stick out in right field

pricejj · 01-30-2013, 12:17 PM

If you look at the Moore Photoshop thread, Carter is actually walking when the play goes down...a complete lack of intensity, which I've grown used to from watching him the last half of the year.

He'll make one play, and then completely space-out on another.

LetsGoBroncos · 01-30-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Highly doubtful.

44 seconds on the clock, protecting a score on the opponents 30 yard line is NOT a jam situation.

I was thinking the same thing. And bull**** Jacoby Jones knew he would get open....Moore was 30-40 yards downfield from him pre-snap, how would he know Moore wouldn't continue to back pedal once the play started. Just a ****ty day from start to finish. 23 things went Baltimore's way and it still took double OT to beat us. If 22 things go their way we win. Big time shame. I'll go to my grave not being over this game.

Requiem · 01-30-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

^ comes complete with 2 rounds worth of small school discount

He played good against South Dakota State -- only game I've ever seen of his. Some people think he could go late round two.

CEH · 01-30-2013, 02:01 PM

Yes you do jam the wr because you disrupt the route and the sideline is near by so of the wr goes out of bounds he can't catch the ball and with no timeouts the sideline route is the only play for the wr

pricejj · 01-30-2013, 03:12 PM

There ya go Rev. That's what were looking for...a #1 CB who can run in the 4.3's, has great ball skills, and can be had at #56.

Can he play press-man?

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CEH

Yes you do jam the wr because you disrupt the route and the sideline is near by so of the wr goes out of bounds he can't catch the ball and with no timeouts the sideline route is the only play for the wr

No... it's a cushion down. A jam you can get blown off the ball.

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Originally Posted by pricejj

There ya go Rev. That's what were looking for...a #1 CB who can run in the 4.3's, has great ball skills, and can be had at #56.

Can he play press-man?

He can play anything.

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CEH

Yes you do jam the wr because you disrupt the route and the sideline is near by so of the wr goes out of bounds he can't catch the ball and with no timeouts the sideline route is the only play for the wr

You jam a WR more on a timing route, not so much on a "he's sprinting for the endzone" type of situation. On that type of situation you have to leave a cushion because he's going all out and you gotta keep up.

pricejj · 01-30-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

He can play anything.

Whoa. Watching some video of him now. He's physical, can run with anyone, loves to tackle, and is a playmaker...just needs a little refinement on his technique, which Champ would gladly help him with.

Rascal · 01-30-2013, 05:31 PM

Who are you talking about?

CEH · 01-30-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

You jam a WR more on a timing route, not so much on a "he's sprinting for the endzone" type of situation. On that type of situation you have to leave a cushion because he's going all out and you gotta keep up.

Carter is not playing man. He's responisble for a zone.
Keep up with who you have 4- 5 other players supposely playing 30 yards down field.

Denver coaches have told several local reporters Carter was suppose to bump his guy intially off the LOS

Believe what you guys want

oubronco · 01-30-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

Who are you talking about?

#13 Robert Alford, 5-11, 188, CB, Southeastern Louisiana

Heyneck · 01-30-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

^ comes complete with 2 rounds worth of small school discount

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01-30-2013, 08:25 AM	#79
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Forgetting Tony Carter.

01-30-2013, 08:34 AM	#81
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	I know it was the vast majority Moore's fault, but if Carter actually runs full out on that play, he would have been in prime location to bat it away or even pick it (based on the ball location)

01-30-2013, 12:17 PM	#89
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	If you look at the Moore Photoshop thread, Carter is actually walking when the play goes down...a complete lack of intensity, which I've grown used to from watching him the last half of the year. He'll make one play, and then completely space-out on another.

01-30-2013, 02:01 PM	#92
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,211	Yes you do jam the wr because you disrupt the route and the sideline is near by so of the wr goes out of bounds he can't catch the ball and with no timeouts the sideline route is the only play for the wr

01-30-2013, 03:12 PM	#93
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	There ya go Rev. That's what were looking for...a #1 CB who can run in the 4.3's, has great ball skills, and can be had at #56. Can he play press-man?

01-30-2013, 05:31 PM	#97
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Who are you talking about?