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Old 01-24-2013, 02:40 PM   #51
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Elway knows that manning will retire after couple of years..the window is very short.
If fox coaches the same way he did in his career, he will be fired after the season.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:03 PM   #52
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John Fox, John Ralston. They both can't close and are too eager to take their half a loaf and go home.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:22 PM   #53
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No. But lately it seems there's quite a few stupid threads being started. This is just one example. Maybe armchair isn't worst but some of these threads are ridiculous. There's even a seperate thread started for an argument that was in another thread
Nevertheless, the Broncs just shat the dang bed dude. Pat Bowlen was doing a giggity-giggity dance when Manning signed, and one-and-done resulted. Bowlen was furious, why shouldn't fans be?
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:31 PM   #54
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I have trouble considering losing in the divisional round after a bye as less successful than winning a wildcard game first.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:44 PM   #55
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Nevertheless, the Broncs just shat the dang bed dude. Pat Bowlen was doing a giggity-giggity dance when Manning signed, and one-and-done resulted. Bowlen was furious, why shouldn't fans be?
Being mad is one thing. Constantly bashing the team and its coaches are how cowboy/giants fans act. It's perfectly OK to question fox. I did. But what are we going to do? Fire him? Revolving doors are installed in ****ty teams offices.


The real situation here isn't about fox coaching. It's about bitterness some people have with fox and Elway cause they shipped out their hero. They had to bite their tongue the entire season and when a SB wasn't happening they jumped on the chance to bash this FO. Still crying about shipping out garbage.

Being upset that Fox had no balls is one thing. Being upset cause there's still bitterness is another.

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:46 PM   #56
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John Fox, John Ralston. They both can't close and are too eager to take their half a loaf and go home.
I can't put my finger on it, but something about Foxy reminds me of Bobby Finstock.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:55 PM   #57
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As far as I can tell, the purpose of this thread wasn't to advocate that John Fox should be fired (of course, if he *were* fired, that would make me happy). Rather, it was to solicit feedback on WHEN he will inevitably be fired, whether that's next year or 5 years from now.

In fact, I speculated that he'd be the HC for another 5 years, which is more time than most folks (even supporters) have given him.

Almost every coach has been fired at least once. And 90% or more of those that have never been fired will eventually be fired. There aren't many coaches who have left a team on their own terms. Tom Landry didn't. Don Shula didn't. Mike Shannyham didn't. Even Parcels left a trail of destruction everywhere.

The only guy I can think of who fits the bill is Bill Walsh.

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As far as I can tell, the purpose of this thread wasn't to advocate that John Fox should be fired (of course, if he *were* fired, that would make me happy). Rather, it was to solicit feedback on WHEN he will inevitably be fired, whether that's next year or 5 years from now.

In fact, I speculated that he'd be the HC for another 5 years, which is more time than most folks (even supporters) have given him.

Almost every coach has been fired at least once. And 90% or more of those that have never been fired will eventually be fired. There aren't many coaches who have left a team on their own terms. Tom Landry didn't. Don Shula didn't. Mike Shannyham didn't. Even Parcels left a trail of destruction everywhere.

The only guy I can think of who fits the bill is Bill Walsh.
Walsh never coached again after the 9ers, but he was like a zombie - continually coming back to the franchise in other roles, overshadowing what everyone else was doing.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:25 AM   #59
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As far as I can tell, the purpose of this thread wasn't to advocate that John Fox should be fired (of course, if he *were* fired, that would make me happy). Rather, it was to solicit feedback on WHEN he will inevitably be fired, whether that's next year or 5 years from now.

In fact, I speculated that he'd be the HC for another 5 years, which is more time than most folks (even supporters) have given him.

Almost every coach has been fired at least once. And 90% or more of those that have never been fired will eventually be fired. There aren't many coaches who have left a team on their own terms. Tom Landry didn't. Don Shula didn't. Mike Shannyham didn't. Even Parcels left a trail of destruction everywhere.

The only guy I can think of who fits the bill is Bill Walsh.
I don't think Cowher ever got fired. Dungy left on his own terms, at least the second time. Don't think Parcells ever got canned either. He just didn't have any patience for people's ****.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:34 AM   #60
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As far as I can tell, the purpose of this thread wasn't to advocate that John Fox should be fired (of course, if he *were* fired, that would make me happy). Rather, it was to solicit feedback on WHEN he will inevitably be fired, whether that's next year or 5 years from now.

In fact, I speculated that he'd be the HC for another 5 years, which is more time than most folks (even supporters) have given him.

Almost every coach has been fired at least once. And 90% or more of those that have never been fired will eventually be fired. There aren't many coaches who have left a team on their own terms. Tom Landry didn't. Don Shula didn't. Mike Shannyham didn't. Even Parcels left a trail of destruction everywhere.

The only guy I can think of who fits the bill is Bill Walsh.

Hank stram wasn't fired I think. Jimmy johnson? Bill cowher? John madden? CHUCK NOLL? I got more. I know joe Gibbs wasn't fired. There's plenty of examples other than Walsh. Joe Gibbs is the perfect example. He left on HIS terms twice with the same team. Now that doesn't happen often

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Old 01-25-2013, 09:43 AM   #61
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Half the teams in the NFL would love to have a John Fox, Divisonal Playoff appearances problem....
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:24 AM   #62
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John Fox, John Ralston. They both can't close and are too eager to take their half a loaf and go home.
just get it right. it was "half a loaf" lou saban. if it wasnt for john ralston the broncos would never have got into SB 12 and established real NFL cred in the nfl. we broke up the stealers string of superbowls in the 70's.
if Fox gets just one SB ring for manning thats as many as saint dungy did with manning in his prime.
yes, red miller was coach for SB 12 but Ralston built that orange crush.

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