How many years before Fox gets fired? - The Orange Mane

Armchair Bronco · 01-23-2013, 10:19 PM

We all know it's just a question of when, not if.

Fox will ride Mannings coat tails for another year, then have a crapass season in 2015 after Manning retires. Then we will rebuild for two years, followed by another crapass 2-14 season like he had in Carolina. That's when Elway will give him the boot.

So I say 5 more years of Fox before we're through with the most conservative head coach in NFL history. But I could be wrong...

lonestar · 01-23-2013, 10:24 PM

Now reeves was conservative way more than fox is. IMO. Hell he was stupid enough to try and trade Elway and draft tommy Maddox to replace him.

He loved that run run and then ask John to,save his butt on third down.

Armchair Bronco · 01-23-2013, 10:28 PM

I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.

lonestar · 01-23-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Bronco

I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.

Hey I got an idea send your resumel to John and Pat with your ideas. Let us know about the response. Ok?

They seem to be fine with him as a HC.

Armchair Bronco · 01-23-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

Hey I got an idea send your resumel to John and Pat with your ideas. Let us know about the response. Ok?

They seem to be fine with him as a HC.

Look, even Shannyham got the heave ho eventually. If there is a truism in football, it's this: all coaches hang on too long, and most are fired well before they ride off into the sunset.

Trust me, Fox will be fired. The question is: WHEN?

sirhcyennek81 · 01-23-2013, 10:44 PM

...Oh Jesus Christ...

Armchair Bronco · 01-23-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

...Oh Jesus Christ...

So apparently you think that Fox will never be fired? Seriously? He's our coach for life?

sirhcyennek81 · 01-23-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Bronco

So apparently you think that Fox will never be fired? Seriously? He's our coach for life?

Indeed. Clearly my three word post implied that.

Ratboy · 01-23-2013, 10:56 PM

Stupid to speculate coming off such an amazing season, but i'll bite a little.

John Fox is going into year 3 of his 4 year contract. These next 2 years, possibly 1 will set up how long he will be here for. So many potential scenarios and outcomes...

If we get to a Super Bowl in the next 2 years, his contract will be renewed IF he wants it renewed. If not, I think it comes down on if John Elway think he has what it takes.

My take: Minimum 2 years.

Armchair Bronco · 01-23-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Indeed. Clearly my three word post implied that.

Well, I read between the lines...

extralife · 01-23-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Bronco

Well, I read between the lines...

I seriously doubt you're capable of reading much of anything

sirhcyennek81 · 01-23-2013, 10:59 PM

Fox gets a minimum of 5 years total. If by the end of the Manning run we do not have at least a SB appearance, he'd be on his way out. But thus far he has 21 wins as Broncos HC and 2 AFC West crowns. Not too shabby.

MagicHef · 01-23-2013, 11:13 PM

Year zero (pre-Fox): 4 wins
Year one: 8 wins
Year two: 13 wins

I'm sure he'll be gone real soon.

Taco John · 01-23-2013, 11:16 PM

I think John Fox will be given the next two seasons. If we have won a Superbowl, he will be extended (hell, he might even retire). If not, he wont.

MacGruder · 01-24-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Bronco

I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.

If he had the mentality of the guys from 1943 I think his problems would be solved... it's the football from that era that is coming back in style now because of the athletic parity. Fox is stuck in the 70s and 80s along with Elway.

lonestar · 01-24-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I seriously doubt you're capable of reading much of anything

Kind of my thoughts on this.

Who the **** cares at this point.

Does he have a resume to submit and he wants to do it at the right time?

It does not matter. What we think.

Armchair Bronco · 01-24-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MacGruder

If he had the mentality of the guys from 1943 I think his problems would be solved... it's the football from that era that is coming back in style now because of the athletic parity. Fox is stuck in the 70s and 80s along with Elway.

My bad. What was I thinking comparing Fox to the greatest generation?

You're right...his style is more Carteresque than anything. Slow, plodding, predictable, and utterly without any testosterone. John Fox is the 21st century version of Jimmy Carter!

go_broncos · 01-24-2013, 05:00 AM

Fox is one of the reasons we lost the game..It should never come to Moore or Manning Interception..When Ravens fumbled the ball, what did we do??..Kept running the ball.
Once we have 7 or 10 point lead, he starts to become conservative.
It's in his blood.It doesn't matter who the QB is.
It's really a tough situation for Elway.
Fox is a coach that brings stability to the organization(similar to what marty did to SD few years back)..But, to win in playoffs/SB..he should stop being scared.

Next year..if we are one and done in playoffs,then Elway will fire Fox.

cmhargrove · 01-24-2013, 05:56 AM

Some real sour grapes and spoiled fans around here. But, I guess the nice thing is how quickly Elway has raised our collective expectations.

We go six years with no playoffs, then get to the divisional round twice and now our coach deserves to be fired - sheesh, tough crowd.

Every one and their dog agrees it will be a three year rebuilding project from the second worst team in football to the goal of a superbowl and we are kicking along right on schedule. Lost a D-coordinator, lost an O-coordinator, and we keep replacing lost coaches and getting better each year. I say that is a testament to the head coach, but what do I know?

TheReverend · 01-24-2013, 05:57 AM

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bronco militia · 01-24-2013, 06:46 AM

if the Broncos don't win it all this year I think Fox will be gone.

Play2win · 01-24-2013, 06:49 AM

Fox is the new Reeves. John knows this. This time, Elway appreciates Reeves a lot more. That said, we might win the big one with fox, but to truly dominate, we need a new coach. Fox has always been to get us to the championship level, not necessarily to win it.

He is the Reeves and George Karls of the world, and there is nothing wrong with that.

mwill07 · 01-24-2013, 06:50 AM

can we at least wait for Fox to not win a divisional title before we talk about him being let go?

Armchair Bronco · 01-24-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunk idiot kicker

Fox is the new Reeves. John knows this. This time, Elway appreciates Reeves a lot more. That said, we might win the big one with fox, but to truly dominate, we need a new coach. Fox has always been to get us to the championship level, not necessarily to win it.

He is the Reeves and George Karls of the world, and there is nothing wrong with that.

There is actually a lot wrong with zero rings.

Prodigal19 · 01-24-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Bronco

There is actually a lot wrong with zero rings.

name 4 things. go

01-23-2013, 10:19 PM	#1
Armchair Bronco Ring of Famer Call me "Old School"... Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,604 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darrien Gordon	How many years before Fox gets fired? We all know it's just a question of when, not if. Fox will ride Mannings coat tails for another year, then have a crapass season in 2015 after Manning retires. Then we will rebuild for two years, followed by another crapass 2-14 season like he had in Carolina. That's when Elway will give him the boot. So I say 5 more years of Fox before we're through with the most conservative head coach in NFL history. But I could be wrong... Last edited by Armchair Bronco; 01-23-2013 at 10:23 PM..

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01-23-2013, 10:24 PM	#2
lonestar Day One Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 6,213 Adopt-a-Bronco: Decker	Now reeves was conservative way more than fox is. IMO. Hell he was stupid enough to try and trade Elway and draft tommy Maddox to replace him. He loved that run run and then ask John to,save his butt on third down.

01-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#3
Armchair Bronco Ring of Famer Call me "Old School"... Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,604 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darrien Gordon	I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example. Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.

01-23-2013, 10:44 PM	#6
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	...Oh Jesus Christ...

01-23-2013, 10:56 PM	#9
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,274	Stupid to speculate coming off such an amazing season, but i'll bite a little. John Fox is going into year 3 of his 4 year contract. These next 2 years, possibly 1 will set up how long he will be here for. So many potential scenarios and outcomes... If we get to a Super Bowl in the next 2 years, his contract will be renewed IF he wants it renewed. If not, I think it comes down on if John Elway think he has what it takes. My take: Minimum 2 years.

01-23-2013, 10:59 PM	#12
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Fox gets a minimum of 5 years total. If by the end of the Manning run we do not have at least a SB appearance, he'd be on his way out. But thus far he has 21 wins as Broncos HC and 2 AFC West crowns. Not too shabby.

01-23-2013, 11:13 PM	#13
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,428 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Year zero (pre-Fox): 4 wins Year one: 8 wins Year two: 13 wins I'm sure he'll be gone real soon.

01-23-2013, 11:16 PM	#14
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I think John Fox will be given the next two seasons. If we have won a Superbowl, he will be extended (hell, he might even retire). If not, he wont.

01-24-2013, 05:00 AM	#18
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,218 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Fox is one of the reasons we lost the game..It should never come to Moore or Manning Interception..When Ravens fumbled the ball, what did we do??..Kept running the ball. Once we have 7 or 10 point lead, he starts to become conservative. It's in his blood.It doesn't matter who the QB is. It's really a tough situation for Elway. Fox is a coach that brings stability to the organization(similar to what marty did to SD few years back)..But, to win in playoffs/SB..he should stop being scared. Next year..if we are one and done in playoffs,then Elway will fire Fox.

01-24-2013, 05:56 AM	#19
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,396 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Some real sour grapes and spoiled fans around here. But, I guess the nice thing is how quickly Elway has raised our collective expectations. We go six years with no playoffs, then get to the divisional round twice and now our coach deserves to be fired - sheesh, tough crowd. Every one and their dog agrees it will be a three year rebuilding project from the second worst team in football to the goal of a superbowl and we are kicking along right on schedule. Lost a D-coordinator, lost an O-coordinator, and we keep replacing lost coaches and getting better each year. I say that is a testament to the head coach, but what do I know?

01-24-2013, 05:57 AM	#20
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01-24-2013, 06:46 AM	#21
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,567	if the Broncos don't win it all this year I think Fox will be gone.

01-24-2013, 06:49 AM	#22
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Fox is the new Reeves. John knows this. This time, Elway appreciates Reeves a lot more. That said, we might win the big one with fox, but to truly dominate, we need a new coach. Fox has always been to get us to the championship level, not necessarily to win it. He is the Reeves and George Karls of the world, and there is nothing wrong with that.

01-24-2013, 06:50 AM	#23
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,191 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	can we at least wait for Fox to *not* win a divisional title before we talk about him being let go?