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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,623
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You guys have to admit he has some valid points. Who in their right mind would continue to start that limp dink, Orton? The guy is terrible. Has no guts, no balls.
I would take Tebow and the season we had last year over at least half of the other QBs in the league. And at this point, the Manning experiment is NOT a success, no matter what anyone says. And there is absolutely no certaintly that it is going to get better than it was this season. |
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Minneapolis
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I would rather win ugly than lose pretty. I have no doubt in my mind the Jets would have been a playoff team this year had they played the read option with Tebow. They had a strong ground game and a good defense. What they needed was for someone to not turn the ball over. And the NY fans would have ate up that gutsy, hard nosed football and loved it.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,623
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Lastly, any Bronco fan that bad mouths Tebow is a true jackass. How any true fan can't absolutely love the guy is beyond me. Total class act, gave his all on the field and created some unbelievable memories. What more do you want?
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Young Buck
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
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Rumblin' Bumblin'
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wash DC
Posts: 7,275
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You are a goddamn whirlwind of inconsistency. Tebow had to have the ****ty non del rio defense....but Elway made Tebow look bad because he couldn't do anything against the non Del Rio defense. Tebow is better than Manning because he won a playoff game even when he had a worse defense, even though the Defense Peyton manning had gave up more points against weaker competition. This is all about people looking at the stats. Tebow is great because he threw for 300 yards against the Steelers that one time. Tebow can't play in a traditional offense, people need to not judge him by that. Elway sabotaged Tebow by making him play an offense tailored to him. Tebow can't play in the offense that RGIII is running either though. He has to play in a magical new offense that I can't explain becasue the government will find me and kill me. You must be a legitimately crazy person; which in that case, please seek help. If not, you are nothing but a forum baiting troll. |
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Rumblin' Bumblin'
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wash DC
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Tebow lost by: 35 points 18 points 26 points 4 points and 35 points again. It's the defense right? Well guess what...The Tebow offense averaged 12 points per game in those games. I guess it's cool though, because Buffalo, Detroit and Kansas City are such elite teams. |
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Miss Congeniality
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in my cups... lol
Posts: 33,037
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If Tebow could consistently throw the football... if he were one tenth as good a QB as MacGruder claims he is... he would be starting on some team by now. Instead, he's probably gonna get the release he "demanded" from the Jets and find no other team in the league with the slightest scintilla of interest in him.
Now this could be due to a vast multi-franchise conspiracy against him... or it could be that he simply doesn't have the skills he needs to succeed at this level of the game. You decide. (lol) |
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Go Broncos
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 449
Adopt-a-Bronco: Darcel McBath |
This might be the least-modded site I've been on.
How can someone like the OP be allowed to post over 5,000 times on here? This thread was started obviously for attention and to entice and bait people into responding the way he knew people would. Nothing positive and constructive was going to come out of it and should've been locked on the first page. |
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Fox came in in a season with no offseason and SCRAPPED the offense that was ideal for Tebow that was in place. Fox's offense even screwed up Orton who was playing much better when that offense was in place. Why did he do it? Because that was the only way he could make the crap Broncos defenses look good. Elway knew exactly what he was doing. When he hired Fox he KNEW he was ending Tebow's career.. when Elway then removed all the veteran receivers from the team he knew he was putting a stake in Tebow's heart... Elway also knew that by dragging Tebow's name through the mud he would divide the locker room because he knew there was animosity towards Tebow anyway. If you have Peter Tebow the preacher calling you out for karma you know some nasty stuff went down... Last edited by MacGruder; 01-23-2013 at 02:43 PM.. |
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Tebow doesn't fit the gold standards of how QBs are evaluated. That doesn't mean Tebow can't be successful.. it means NFL people are small minded. The Broncos football people were fooled too.. they thought Orton had to outplay Tebow. When it was the complete opposite. The Broncos players thought the same thing.. Steve Young said HE was wrong about Tebow... if Steve Young could be fooled then do you think you are any different? Or other NFL people.. Last edited by MacGruder; 01-23-2013 at 02:53 PM.. |
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Icy Fresh
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: COLORADO
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This just in: Tebow can't consistently throw a football with any semblance of accuracy, therefor he has little value as a quarterback in the nfl.
Source: 32 NFL GMs. What is OP going to do when Tebow is out of the league in 2015 and running missionaries in the Philippines? |
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Perennial Pro-bowler
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 927
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John Elway sitting in his hotel room at the Senior Bowl furiously twitter bombing about the Jets soon to be released 3rd string QB?
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter |
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www.PatrickTurley.org
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 33,010
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HOW ARE YOU STILL HERE?
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And of course they were blown out.. Fox had the worst offense in the world. Orton looked decent on offense before AND after Fox... Fox ruined Orton and Tebow's career. He's a Qb death sentence.. EXACTLY why Elway got him. He even almost ruined PEYTON'S career early in the season before he was FORCED to let Peyton play no huddle all game. |
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Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
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13-3....boy did it hurt. Quote:
He has no upside any more. It's too late. He can't make it through a season any more without re-breaking his ribs, so he's going to be running less and less and his throwing hasn't improved one bit since he's been in the league. It's over for him. |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: denver
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Yep. He just can't get over Tebow. Threads like this, and the lunatics behind them, are why you can't keep the guy around as a backup. Billboards, etc. |
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Fox ran the ball constantly.. of course your passing game is going to decrease. That is what helped the D so much. And Tebow had very very few turnovers passing the ball. That shows the success of the pas game. No team can run if you can't pass. This was will Elway moving all the veteran receivers.. he surrounded Peyton with them
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Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
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There's a better chance the Broncos re-sign him than the Pats. And we all know that ain't happening. It's Canada or out of football entirely next year for Mr Tebow. |
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Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,042
Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater |
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1st you say that Peyton WAS the problem. Now you say he masked the Broncos problems. Interesting. Trying to have it both ways I see. Yup, sure. It's the coaches' faults that he gets hit when he runs. |
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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![]() I honestly think Tebow would have a better chance of winning a SB in that system than Tom Brady for the same reason Tebow outplayed Peyton on the Broncos in the playoffs. The game has changed... it doesn't suit pure passers anymore. They are at a disadvantage compared to more well rounded QBs... if Belichick got a hold of Tebow as a starter he would illustrate that more than anyone... If it happens though.. guess what... Tebow will get no credit... just like how on the Broncos he gets no credit for outplaying Peyton. He can win 10 SBs under Beli and the people who have made up their minds about Tebow will never change them. |
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