Don't Be Afraid to Admit It: Refs Helped Ravens Beat Broncos in AFC Playoffs - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 01-19-2013, 01:11 AM

Even with the bad calls, I felt like our guys lacked the intensity on defense to match the Ravens intensity on defense.

We need a team leading middle linebacker.

ColoradoDarin · 01-19-2013, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

By the way, where are the blowhards hating on the HuffPo, that liberal rag!

Can't speak for the others, but I respected Gutless Drunk's last line to not involve politics just because it's HuffPo. So it looks like you're the only a-hole in here....

rmsanger · 01-19-2013, 05:49 AM

So did Champ Bailey's crap ass play! He Manti Teo'd in pass coverage.

UberBroncoMan · 01-19-2013, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

By the way, where are the blowhards hating on the HuffPo, that liberal rag!

...well, they do know liberally thrown penalties when they see them.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-19-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

Can't speak for the others, but I respected Gutless Drunk's last line to not involve politics just because it's HuffPo. So it looks like you're the only a-hole in here....

Guilty as charged!

pricejj · 01-19-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Even with the bad calls, I felt like our guys lacked the intensity on defense to match the Ravens intensity on defense.

We need a team leading middle linebacker.

and/or a team leading SS

go_broncos · 01-19-2013, 09:01 AM

Almost a week over..still can't forget the way the officiating was done.
Pathetic from NFL.
Replacement officials are better..

vanbrugh · 01-19-2013, 09:19 AM

Its hard to win games when the refs destroy momentum over and over again!

go_broncos · 01-19-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vanbrugh

Its hard to win games when the refs destroy momentum over and over again!

I agree...Even then..we almost won the game.
This show how strong our team is this year.

Would have been a great game against NE tomorrow.

All ruined because of refs and part of it because of the way we played.

Dedhed · 01-19-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Moore knocks the ball down and its ballgame refs bad calls and all

That ignores 15-20 other instances prior that would have made the Moore play an insignificant side note that led to garbage points and made the Raven's loss a little less ugly.

nyuk nyuk · 01-19-2013, 10:24 AM

Speaking of momentum, I hope Gase's inexperience at OC doesn't trash it...

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-19-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Speaking of momentum, I hope Gase's inexperience at OC doesn't trash it...

Peyton is still the one making most of the calls.

Irish Stout · 01-19-2013, 11:02 AM

Change challenge rules so that all plays are challengeable including PI. I understand its a "judgment call" but if it clearly is or is not PI it should be overturned. Like the Decker int. play or the DT trip.

nyuk nyuk · 01-19-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Peyton is still the one making most of the calls.

That's never been said, and it has been reaffirmed in the past few days: Peyton isn't the OC and wants to be coached. He audibles at the line at times, just as Tebow did.

Seems to me if he had that much control, he'd not have kneed down with 30 seconds left. I have a hard time thinking he didn't want to go for sideline passes and a field goal there.

Hamrob · 01-19-2013, 11:12 AM

Reasons we lost the game:

1. The secondary
2. Peyton Manning
3. No pass rush
4. Coaching (ex:Not involving D. Thomas more, playcalling etc.)
5. Refs

If only 3-4 of the above were the issue, we would have won. But, with all that stacked against you...forget about it.

The Refs really killed us with the PI calls. The one against Decker was obvious and hurt us bad (see gladiator...spike to the kidney). The calls against Champ and Carter were terrible. And the no call against Baltimore for leg whipping Thomas was outrageous! Thomas was at the 5 and would have scored...the guy falls, and leg whips Thomas and no call is made...even the announcers chose to ignore it.

The reason you don't hear anyone talking about the officiating...is because the officials are the NFL! And, the NFL doesn't allow you to talk negatively about the officials. If you do so...you get fined. And Peria is loyal to the Refs...and covers for them each and every week!

mwill07 · 01-19-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Reasons we lost the game:

1. The secondary
2. Peyton Manning
3. No pass rush
4. Coaching (ex:Not involving D. Thomas more, playcalling etc.)
5. Refs

If only 3-4 of the above were the issue, we would have won. But, with all that stacked against you...forget about it.

The Refs really killed us with the PI calls. The one against Decker was obvious and hurt us bad (see gladiator...spike to the kidney). The calls against Champ and Carter were terrible. And the no call against Baltimore for leg whipping Thomas was outrageous! Thomas was at the 5 and would have scored...the guy falls, and leg whips Thomas and no call is made...even the announcers chose to ignore it.

The reason you don't hear anyone talking about the officiating...is because the officials are the NFL! And, the NFL doesn't allow you to talk negatively about the officials. If you do so...you get fined. And Peria is loyal to the Refs...and covers for them each and every week!

if not for 5. on your list, there would be absolutely nothing to complain about with 2. Therefore, I'd suggest you should swap their positions.

Durango · 01-19-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mwill07

if not for 5. on your list, there would be absolutely nothing to complain about with 2. Therefore, I'd suggest you should swap their positions.

Agreed.

1 Coaching/Playcalling
2 Secondary/Pass Rush (or lack of it)
3 Refs

I don't include Manning because he never would've been in that situation if not for the unbelievably bad play calling and crappy play of the secondary.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-19-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

That's never been said, and it has been reaffirmed in the past few days: Peyton isn't the OC and wants to be coached. He audibles at the line at times, just as Tebow did.

Seems to me if he had that much control, he'd not have kneed down with 30 seconds left. I have a hard time thinking he didn't want to go for sideline passes and a field goal there.

Much of the Broncos offensive concepts come from a play, and then if Peyton doesn't like what he sees, he audibles into a better one. Its not that complicated.

And i dont think Tebow ever audibled did he?

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-19-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Reasons we lost the game:

1. The secondary
2. Peyton Manning
3. No pass rush
4. Coaching (ex:Not involving D. Thomas more, playcalling etc.)
5. Refs

If only 3-4 of the above were the issue, we would have won. But, with all that stacked against you...forget about it.

The Refs really killed us with the PI calls. The one against Decker was obvious and hurt us bad (see gladiator...spike to the kidney). The calls against Champ and Carter were terrible. And the no call against Baltimore for leg whipping Thomas was outrageous! Thomas was at the 5 and would have scored...the guy falls, and leg whips Thomas and no call is made...even the announcers chose to ignore it.

The reason you don't hear anyone talking about the officiating...is because the officials are the NFL! And, the NFL doesn't allow you to talk negatively about the officials. If you do so...you get fined. And Peria is loyal to the Refs...and covers for them each and every week!

Putting Manning as TWO on that list is ****ing absurd. In regulation, 100+ rating, 3tds, good fourth quarter drive. And his two turnovers shouldn't have ever been turnovers. But yes, he was number 2. Sure.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-19-2013, 01:07 PM

Even Bill Simmons, number one Manning hater, thought he played well

go_broncos · 01-19-2013, 01:09 PM

Last week about this time..i was waiting for this game to start.
Little i know that the officials will screw up this game.
It's sad that the coaches can't openly criticize or talk about officiating.
ESPN,FOX is also not pointing the mistakes.

I bet they will highlight them if it happens tomorrow against NE.

Wes Mantooth · 01-19-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Reasons we lost the game:

1. The secondary
2. Peyton Manning
3. No pass rush
4. Coaching (ex:Not involving D. Thomas more, playcalling etc.)
5. Refs

If only 3-4 of the above were the issue, we would have won. But, with all that stacked against you...forget about it.

The Refs really killed us with the PI calls. The one against Decker was obvious and hurt us bad (see gladiator...spike to the kidney). The calls against Champ and Carter were terrible. And the no call against Baltimore for leg whipping Thomas was outrageous! Thomas was at the 5 and would have scored...the guy falls, and leg whips Thomas and no call is made...even the announcers chose to ignore it.

The reason you don't hear anyone talking about the officiating...is because the officials are the NFL! And, the NFL doesn't allow you to talk negatively about the officials. If you do so...you get fined. And Peria is loyal to the Refs...and covers for them each and every week!

This sounds like someone who read the box score and did not watch the game.

nyuk nyuk · 01-19-2013, 02:29 PM

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi

One week later, kickoff temperature 60-degrees. Stage 4. Anger.

oubronco · 01-19-2013, 05:16 PM

Wes Mantooth · 01-19-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

d@mnit.

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01-19-2013, 01:11 AM	#26
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Even with the bad calls, I felt like our guys lacked the intensity on defense to match the Ravens intensity on defense. We need a team leading middle linebacker.

01-19-2013, 05:49 AM	#28
rmsanger Ring of Famer Another one bites the dust! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,086 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	So did Champ Bailey's crap ass play! He Manti Teo'd in pass coverage.

01-19-2013, 09:01 AM	#32
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Almost a week over..still can't forget the way the officiating was done. Pathetic from NFL. Replacement officials are better..

01-19-2013, 09:19 AM	#33
vanbrugh Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 170 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Its hard to win games when the refs destroy momentum over and over again!

01-19-2013, 10:24 AM	#36
nyuk nyuk Owns scary-looking rifle Governor No. 89148 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: 5280 Posts: 2,874 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Speaking of momentum, I hope Gase's inexperience at OC doesn't trash it...

01-19-2013, 11:02 AM	#38
Irish Stout Ring of Famer Run for it Marty! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,872 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Change challenge rules so that all plays are challengeable including PI. I understand its a "judgment call" but if it clearly is or is not PI it should be overturned. Like the Decker int. play or the DT trip.

01-19-2013, 11:12 AM	#40
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,755 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Reasons we lost the game: 1. The secondary 2. Peyton Manning 3. No pass rush 4. Coaching (ex:Not involving D. Thomas more, playcalling etc.) 5. Refs If only 3-4 of the above were the issue, we would have won. But, with all that stacked against you...forget about it. The Refs really killed us with the PI calls. The one against Decker was obvious and hurt us bad (see gladiator...spike to the kidney). The calls against Champ and Carter were terrible. And the no call against Baltimore for leg whipping Thomas was outrageous! Thomas was at the 5 and would have scored...the guy falls, and leg whips Thomas and no call is made...even the announcers chose to ignore it. The reason you don't hear anyone talking about the officiating...is because the officials are the NFL! And, the NFL doesn't allow you to talk negatively about the officials. If you do so...you get fined. And Peria is loyal to the Refs...and covers for them each and every week!

01-19-2013, 01:07 PM	#45
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,434 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Even Bill Simmons, number one Manning hater, thought he played well

01-19-2013, 01:09 PM	#46
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Last week about this time..i was waiting for this game to start. Little i know that the officials will screw up this game. It's sad that the coaches can't openly criticize or talk about officiating. ESPN,FOX is also not pointing the mistakes. I bet they will highlight them if it happens tomorrow against NE.

01-19-2013, 02:29 PM	#48
nyuk nyuk Owns scary-looking rifle Governor No. 89148 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: 5280 Posts: 2,874 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi One week later, kickoff temperature 60-degrees. Stage 4. Anger.

01-19-2013, 05:16 PM	#49
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686