Shooting at Conn Elementary 27 dead including kids

[ant1999e]

Now all of the sudden the libs are gun owners and support the 2nd Amendment.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

States rights is a dead issue, this is one country,not 50 seperate plots of land doing there own thing. I didn't realize how big of a fan you are of the EU.

Guess you haven't heard of a place called Colorado. We set plenty of our own laws and the feds sit and watch!

Peacepipe you really need to travel a bit more. There are huge cultural, religious, and political differences from state to state. One size does not fit all in America. It's what makes this country great!


So peacepipe is a gun owner. It's the ole I got what I want but restrict the other guy.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

Obama said plain as day in his announcement that passing these laws won't stop these things from ever happening again,but if they stop one it is worth doing.

Speeding kills 10,000 per year. Should we make cars that refuse to go faster than 65? I bet you could find a cop who loves the idea.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Guess you haven't heard of a place called Colorado. We set plenty of our own laws and the feds sit and watch!

Peacepipe you really need to travel a bit more. There are huge cultural, religious, and political differences from state to state. One size does not fit all in America. It's what makes this country great!


So peacepipe is a gun owner. It's the ole I got what I want but restrict the other guy.

Its really important to respect those differences are we won't be able to stay united.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

It isn't rolling back the constitution,universal background checks won't stop you from buying a gun. As has been pointed out the 2nd amendment is not unlimited.

Then it shouldn't be unlimited for anybody. Giving more powerful weapons to the authorities creates a police state.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Then it shouldn't be unlimited for anybody. Giving more powerful weapons to the authorities creates a police state.

Bull****.

[Rohirrim]

Everybody should be packing, and showing it! God knows, that's what made the Old West the peaceful place that it was.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Guess you haven't heard of a place called Colorado. We set plenty of our own laws and the feds sit and watch!

Peacepipe you really need to travel a bit more. There are huge cultural, religious, and political differences from state to state. One size does not fit all in America. It's what makes this country great!


So peacepipe is a gun owner. It's the ole I got what I want but restrict the other guy.

Still one country. Do you want us to become the EU.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Guess you haven't heard of a place called Colorado. We set plenty of our own laws and the feds sit and watch!

Peacepipe you really need to travel a bit more. There are huge cultural, religious, and political differences from state to state. One size does not fit all in America. It's what makes this country great!


So peacepipe is a gun owner. It's the ole I got what I want but restrict the other guy.

No law abiding person is being restricted from buying a gun.
Now,do you mean to say that if a convicted child molester were not able to buy a gun you would be upset.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Its really important to respect those differences are we won't be able to stay united.

There's a lot of political,cultural differences between Brooklyn & queens NY should we divide the state of NY into separate states?no.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

Still one country. Do you want us to become the EU.

All the states have different speed limits too. Better squash that down to 65. Maybe 55. That is if you care about the children.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by Arkie

Then it shouldn't be unlimited for anybody. Giving more powerful weapons to the authorities creates a police state.

They don't believe in such things. Their government loves them and only wants to take care of them.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

Still one country. Do you want us to become the EU.

Guess we can assume you've never read any of the federalists or anti federalists.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

All the states have different speed limits too. Better squash that down to 65. Maybe 55. That is if you care about the children.

You guys are getting desperate.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

You guys are getting desperate.

Desperate is "if it saves one life". But with speed limits universally imposed we can save thousands every year. Many many times what an "assault" rifle ban or background checks could ever accomplish.

Its not arguable. Why do you focus on saving 10s or hundreds when you can save thousands?

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

Desperate is "if it saves one life". But with speed limits universally imposed we can save thousands every year. Many many times what an "assault" rifle ban or background checks could ever accomplish.

Its not arguable. Why do you focus on saving 10s or hundreds when you can save thousands?

Tell me who get denied a gun because of universal background checks?

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

Tell me who get denied a gun because of universal background checks?

Why do you always ask questions but never answer them. Why do we build cars capable of breaking the law?

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

Why do you always ask questions but never answer them. Why do we build cars capable of breaking the law?

You're deflecting,answer the question.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

You're deflecting,answer the question.

Whose question came first? Your whine of deflection is what it accuses.

Why are you so eager to infringe on Constitutional freedoms while ignoring others that have far more impact in lives and cost? Only explanation I have is that chipping away at the 2nd is such an ingrained part of your political marching orders that you're incapable of questioning it anymore.

[BroncoBeavis]

DO SOMEFIN!

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

Whose question came first? Your whine of deflection is what it accuses.

Why are you so eager to infringe on Constitutional freedoms while ignoring others that have far more impact in lives and cost? Only explanation I have is that chipping away at the 2nd is such an ingrained part of your political marching orders that you're incapable of questioning it anymore.

No one is infringing,it's 100% constitutional to have universal background checks.
Answer the question.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

No one is infringing,it's 100% constitutional to have universal background checks.
Answer the question.

And then what happens when the next mass murder that background checks do nothing to prevent comes along?

Will background checking hour Uncle Jim still make you feel better or will you just move reliably on to item B or C of the hiptard repeal the 2nd by increment agenda?

If the government is to act I prefer it to have meaningful benefit. Not just put everyone through a dog and pony show so the delusional can pretend they've fixed evil for awhile.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Oh these new gun laws won't do much unfortunately, but it's a good start i guess? And I'll get roasted for this but clinging to the second amendment in today's day is BS. the intention of it was to form a militia, it even says that right in it. We haven't had those or a need for them in centuries. Now people want them for...why do people want assault weapons anyway?

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

And then what happens when the next mass murder that background checks do nothing to prevent comes along?

Will background checking hour Uncle Jim still make you feel better or will you just move reliably on to item B or C of the hiptard repeal the 2nd by increment agenda?

If the government is to act I prefer it to have meaningful benefit. Not just put everyone through a dog and pony show so the delusional can pretend they've fixed evil for awhile.

No one is saying there is a perfect fix,but it is constitutional.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Oh these new gun laws won't do much unfortunately, but it's a good start i guess? And I'll get roasted for this but clinging to the second amendment in today's day is BS. the intention of it was to form a militia, it even says that right in it. We haven't had those or a need for them in centuries. Now people want them for...why do people want assault weapons anyway?

They have this fear of the gov & believe they one day they'll have to turn and use them against our own troops.