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Old 12-28-2012, 03:10 PM   #701
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Just that dosomethingism never rests.

Which I guess proves that every fight at every level is important.

Dosomethingers ask "why do you care about 30 round clips?"

And in all honesty, it's because someday it will be 10 round clips. Then 5. Then semi-automatics (if not before) Then anything above a single-shot. Followed by all firearms, and probably crossbows, down to knives. Maybe even longer-tined forks. Pretty much anything that can grab a headline will become a potential target.

Dosomethingism is a real b****.
Right. This is a much better way forward.

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Old 12-28-2012, 03:37 PM   #702
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I know! We need to work on that category way over on the left, cuz it was in the news.

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Old 12-31-2012, 10:07 AM   #703
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This admin. funds a program to give gun to criminals and gangs in Mexico to be brought over the border that are used to kill people, including women and children, and now they want to establish more laws against the possession of guns? Really makes a lot of sense. The dumbing down of this country is complete if that makes sense to the majority of people.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #704
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01...ing-committed/


A Vermont teacher threatens his school on youtube before turning in his bushmaster and having himself committed.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:07 PM   #705
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FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) Annual FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns.

In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:15 PM   #706
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I'm willing to put up with a few gun massacres a yr to keep my rights. Just like I agree with Paul that all the cameras to make us safe are really just taking away more rights. I don't care what the numbers say we aren't giving up anything but automatic weapons and large clips. Anything more is BS.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:02 AM   #707
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I'm willing to put up with a few gun massacres a yr to keep my rights.
Easy for you to say when it isn't any of your family/friends among the slaughtered.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:59 AM   #708
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I'm willing to put up with a few gun massacres a yr to keep my rights.
Finally.

At least someone finally stopped being a p***Y and came out and said it. Other people's lives are a small price to pay for the false sense of security and downright FUN! that a gun provides.

Now let's take it a step further...are you okay with massacres involving friends or family as long as you get to keep your guns?
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Finally.

At least someone finally stopped being a p***Y and came out and said it. Other people's lives are a small price to pay for the false sense of security and downright FUN! that a gun provides.

Now let's take it a step further...are you okay with massacres involving friends or family as long as you get to keep your guns?
Neoprohibitionism is awesome.
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Finally.

At least someone finally stopped being a p***Y and came out and said it. Other people's lives are a small price to pay for the false sense of security and downright FUN! that a gun provides.

Now let's take it a step further...are you okay with massacres involving friends or family as long as you get to keep your guns?
Does that include hammers and clubs then?
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:23 AM   #711
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Neoprohibitionism is awesome.
Stupid comparison. No one is proposing the complete abolition of guns. Additionally, situational prohibition still exists. We don't allow folks to put others in danger while they are impared by alcohol...hence DUI/DWI/open container laws.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:25 AM   #712
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Does that include hammers and clubs then?
Don't forget kitchen knives. Let me tee that up for Hough...

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #713
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I know! We need to work on that category way over on the left, cuz it was in the news.

Dosomefin!!!
Since handguns are the weapon of choice of the drug sellers for protectin their turf. Fix that problem and about 3/4 of those murders disappear.

Frankly except for some of the innocents that get shot in gutless drive bys IMO let them eliminate each other the world will be a better place.

Then give me a call.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:36 AM   #714
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/...fles-shotguns/

FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) Annual FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns.

In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.
Handguns?

Assault rifles?

This is like saying "more people are killed by station wagons than by hatchbacks, so OBVIOUSLY all cars and trucks are safe."
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:38 AM   #715
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Stupid comparison. No one is proposing the complete abolition of guns.
No, currently they're proposing restricting firearms that kill less people in the United States than fisticuffs do. Because doing 'something' feels good. Even if it does nothing (but harass the law abiding)

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BroncoBeavis, do you agree with cut? A few mass shootings a year is an acceptable price to pay for the RKBA?
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:56 AM   #717
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BroncoBeavis, do you agree with cut? A few mass shootings a year is an acceptable price to pay for the RKBA?
Let me boil this down to what it is.

People with freedom and power have the unfortunate capacity to harm others. The only way to prevent that harm is to diminish the people's freedom and power.

I don't particularly personally care about assault rifles. I only care that it won't end there. "Do Somethingers" will keep "Doing Something" until the day bad things stop happening. Which is to say never.

But they get to feel better about themselves I guess, so that's something. Gradually handing over our freedom so a certain segment can get a few legislative warm fuzzies every now and again... priceless.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:30 AM   #718
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Let me boil this down to what it is.

People with freedom and power have the unfortunate capacity to harm others. The only way to prevent that harm is to diminish the people's freedom and power.
Without safety, there is no freedom.

You still didn't answer the question.
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Without safety, there is no freedom.

You still didn't answer the question.
Wow, you've turned Franklin on his head there a bit, haven't you?

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:02 AM   #720
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Wow, you've turned Franklin on his head there a bit, haven't you?

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Franklin was referring to the 'Patriot act.'
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Franklin was referring to the 'Patriot act.'
Probably true... good point.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:49 PM   #722
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Just that dosomethingism never rests.

Which I guess proves that every fight at every level is important.

Dosomethingers ask "why do you care about 30 round clips?"

And in all honesty, it's because someday it will be 10 round clips. Then 5. Then semi-automatics (if not before) Then anything above a single-shot. Followed by all firearms, and probably crossbows, down to knives. Maybe even longer-tined forks. Pretty much anything that can grab a headline will become a potential target.

Dosomethingism is a real b****.
First let me say, i am against drunk driving, and would never do it, but

MADD is the perfect example of dosomethingers

I think we can all agree that people that cant walk, are too drunk to drive, here the legal limit was .1, then it got moved to .08, now its still .08 but at .05 you get a 72 hour suspension, and your car is impounded road side, even tho the law is .08

Madd recently has been pushing for .000, thats right no alcohol in your blood at all while driving, which im sorry but that is just flat out stupid. whatever makes them sleep better at night i guess.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:34 PM   #723
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Wow, you've turned Franklin on his head there a bit, haven't you?
Still true:

"They who can give up essential safety to obtain a little temporary liberty, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Think the "liberty" to blow through stop signs.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:37 PM   #724
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Easy for you to say when it isn't any of your family/friends among the slaughtered.
I've had lots of friends and family pass on. Death is a part of life. One friend fell off a cliff at summer camp but i don't want mountain climbing made illegal. One got stabbed but making knives illegal is silly. A few in car wrecks on the freeway where I am sure 25mph speed limits would have saved them, but i would rather take my chances at 60.

Sorry inferno but liberals and the govt can't make you safer.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:00 PM   #725
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Still true:

"They who can give up essential safety to obtain a little temporary liberty, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Think the "liberty" to blow through stop signs.
You make it easier with every post... Freedom means living with people's ability to blow through stop signs.

Have we mandated cars that are incapable of running stop signs? Would you support cars being manufactured with a 'government stop' function?

No, cars are made with the ability to obey or violate the law. The discretion of which is left to the free will of the driver.
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