What are your feelings about this game?

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd vote 1 for me but, I do get the 96 Jags feel media wise that concerns me. No game playoff game is a sure thing.

[rbackfactory80]

Scared Manning will play like ****. We can still win though...

Everyone is refusing to look at the elephant in the room and that is Manning's 7 one and done playoff appearances out of 11 attempts. He is way to good in the regular season for that.

[rbackfactory80]

Teams that believe Manning is the only thing standing between them and the Super Bowl might want to take a step back and take a long, hard look at Manning's postseason history.
Manning is one of the all-time great QBs, but if there's a black mark on his record, it's the consistently underwhelming performances year after year in the postseason.
Manning won 67.8 percent (141-67) of all his starts in the regular season, with a team built around his skills. Same quarterback, same team, same advantages, has gone just 9-10 in the postseason (.473) -- typically losing when the prolific offense of the regular season tanks in the postseason.
The Colts reached the playoffs in 11 of 13 seasons with Manning at the helm, but also failed to win a playoff game in seven of those 11 appearances -- the most one-and-done playoff appearances by any quarterback in history.
Even in Manning's single Super Bowl-winning season of 2006, the quarterback failed to sparkle. In fact, he threw just 3 TDs in four playoff games that year, against 8 INTs -- the worst TD-INT ratio of any Super Bowl-champion QB.
Manning will probably make any team that signs him better. But if we're being very honest, here's what a team will be chasing in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes: an aging player, fresh off a catastrophic injury, whose production has declined in recent years, in a sport in which players hit the wall in their mid-to-late 30s, and who has always struggled outdoors and in the playoffs.
If a team thinks that Manning is the difference between a second-rate season and a Super Bowl, they might want to think again.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2HKn47uxK

[bfoflcommish]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Teams that believe Manning is the only thing standing between them and the Super Bowl might want to take a step back and take a long, hard look at Manning's postseason history.
Manning is one of the all-time great QBs, but if there's a black mark on his record, it's the consistently underwhelming performances year after year in the postseason.
Manning won 67.8 percent (141-67) of all his starts in the regular season, with a team built around his skills. Same quarterback, same team, same advantages, has gone just 9-10 in the postseason (.473) -- typically losing when the prolific offense of the regular season tanks in the postseason.
The Colts reached the playoffs in 11 of 13 seasons with Manning at the helm, but also failed to win a playoff game in seven of those 11 appearances -- the most one-and-done playoff appearances by any quarterback in history.
Even in Manning's single Super Bowl-winning season of 2006, the quarterback failed to sparkle. In fact, he threw just 3 TDs in four playoff games that year, against 8 INTs -- the worst TD-INT ratio of any Super Bowl-champion QB.
Manning will probably make any team that signs him better. But if we're being very honest, here's what a team will be chasing in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes: an aging player, fresh off a catastrophic injury, whose production has declined in recent years, in a sport in which players hit the wall in their mid-to-late 30s, and who has always struggled outdoors and in the playoffs.
If a team thinks that Manning is the difference between a second-rate season and a Super Bowl, they might want to think again.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2HKn47uxK

and Elway had same knock. Playoffs are a different ballgame and you need a full team around you on same page. Only reason Colts made playoffs was because of manning. this is the best "team" he has played on

[Ratboy]

Ain't nobody got time... to be worried.

[rbackfactory80]

Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

and Elway had same knock. Playoffs are a different ballgame and you need a full team around you on same page. Only reason Colts made playoffs was because of manning. this is the best "team" he has played on

I agree, it will take Denver's worst game and Baltimore's best game. But, you need good QB play to win it all, unquestionably you can't have an alright day against NE and win...maybe against Baltimore you can.

I hope he plays well, just very worried about it. I have watched every playoff game he has played and the difference in his post season play has been monumental, except against Denver in 03 and 04.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Originally Posted by Ratboy

Ain't nobody got time... to be worried.

Ain't nobody got time for dat.

[titan]

I've been to most Bronco home playoff games since the first one 12/24/77. This will be the coldest since that magical AFC championship win 1/1/78 over the Raiders 20-17. It was 18 degrees that day. The coid didn't seem to bother a limping Craig Morton or Haven Moses (the M&M connection had 2 tds and Haven had 168 receiving yards)

But on to the present. I think the cold weather plays to the Ravens advantage - they have a better power running game and the cold negates the Broncos passing advantage somewhat. That said Denver will be fine if they can get the lead and force the Ravens to play catchup. Like in the first game the immobile Joe Flacco and the Ravens o-line is no match for a strong Broncos pass rush.

But if the Ravens can get ahead they can neutralize the Broncos pass rush and control the clock with a strong running game. The Broncos had problems with tight end Dennis Pitta in the 1st game and now the Ravens have Ed *****on back, too, as another tight end threat. The Ravens have played well in road playoff games before ( last year's AFC title game in Foxboro was much closer than most expected).

I still like the Broncos chances. Here's hoping Denver gets a quick early score like that legendary Broncos 77 team did vs the Raiders in 18 degree weather:

[RedskinBronco]

Broncos romp

[OrangeSe7en]

I am worried because the Ravens also have many good players who are battle tested and every time you step on the field, there is a risk of losing.

BTW, the only time in my life where I never felt this way because I was so supremely confident the Broncos would win was in 1998 (actually early 1999).

[errand]

Umm, the Ravens weren't able to establish this vaunted power running game I keep hearing about when they had better field conditions and at a friendly venue...i mean how many 3 and outs did they have to start the game?

so what makes everyone think they will be able to do it in worse weather and on the road against a defense that has played the run very well all ****ing season long?

[Gutless Drunk]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Teams that believe Manning is the only thing standing between them and the Super Bowl might want to take a step back and take a long, hard look at Manning's postseason history.
Manning is one of the all-time great QBs, but if there's a black mark on his record, it's the consistently underwhelming performances year after year in the postseason.
Manning won 67.8 percent (141-67) of all his starts in the regular season, with a team built around his skills. Same quarterback, same team, same advantages, has gone just 9-10 in the postseason (.473) -- typically losing when the prolific offense of the regular season tanks in the postseason.
The Colts reached the playoffs in 11 of 13 seasons with Manning at the helm, but also failed to win a playoff game in seven of those 11 appearances -- the most one-and-done playoff appearances by any quarterback in history.
Even in Manning's single Super Bowl-winning season of 2006, the quarterback failed to sparkle. In fact, he threw just 3 TDs in four playoff games that year, against 8 INTs -- the worst TD-INT ratio of any Super Bowl-champion QB.
Manning will probably make any team that signs him better. But if we're being very honest, here's what a team will be chasing in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes: an aging player, fresh off a catastrophic injury, whose production has declined in recent years, in a sport in which players hit the wall in their mid-to-late 30s, and who has always struggled outdoors and in the playoffs.
If a team thinks that Manning is the difference between a second-rate season and a Super Bowl, they might want to think again.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2HKn47uxK

"New/old meme: Peyton Manning “hasn’t been great in the playoffs”
Did you know Peyton's QB rating in the playoffs (88.4) is better than Tom Brady's (87.8)?
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/prim...n-the-playoffs

[errand]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

I agree, it will take Denver's worst game and Baltimore's best game. But, you need good QB play to win it all, unquestionably you can't have an alright day against NE and win...maybe against Baltimore you can.

I hope he plays well, just very worried about it. I have watched every playoff game he has played and the difference in his post season play has been monumental, except against Denver in 03 and 04.

We all know the real reason you try to cast aspersions against Manning.....

"Who do you want as Broncos starting QB in 2012?"


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[rbackfactory80]

Originally Posted by errand

We all know the real reason you try to cast aspersions against Manning.....

"Who do you want as Broncos starting QB in 2012?"


Tim Tebow
55CrushEm, Aardvark, Agamemnon, BabyTO, Broncbow, BroncoBeavis, Broncobiv, broncogary, Broncoman13, Casper Bronco, Chris, Cito Pelon, ColoradoDarin, crazyhorse, DAN_BRONCO_FAN, Darkdoc, db56, dbfan21, Dedhed, Doggcow, El Jué, go_broncos, GreatBronco16, HighCountryBronco, jacob2125, Jay3, Jesterhole, jet19, jmz313, joe9999, lcbronco, lonestar, MacGruder, Marshall Dumervil, meangene, MileHighMagic, montrose, mustangtoby, myMind, NUB, rbackfactory80, sisterhellfyre, SoCalBronco, TD30, The Moops, TheFullTebow, winstoncup bronco, ~Crash~
48 27.43%

Dude I am amped. I can't wait for gametime, just don't want the heartbreak. You are telling me you have no doubts about Manning in the playoffs whatsoever?

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Think we will win handily, but worried about getting Munsoned out there in the snow.

[R8R H8R]

For those of you who are buying into the whole Manning isn't as good in the playoffs garbage, and it is garbage, may I remind you all that all Broncos fans hated it when ignorant fans from other teams used to say "yea but, Elway can't win the big one."

We all knew it was crap, because he didn't have a championship team around him; hell, no one in the AFC had a SB team, during that time. I agree with Stink, Manning had problems in the playoffs because his teams weren't built for championships. Dungy & Polian has to take a lot of the responsibility here.

[Old Dude]

How do I feel?

Ravens Offense: 11th rushing; 15th passing; 16th overall; 10th scoring. Flacco: 87.7

Ravens Defense: 20th rushing; 17th passing; 17th overall; 13th scoring.

Broncos Offense: 16th rushing; 5th passing; 4th overall; 2nd scoring. Manning: 105.8

Broncos Defense: 4th rushing, 3rd passing; 2nd overall; 4th scoring.

Last meeting: 12/16/12. at Baltimore. Broncos 34, Ravens 17.

This game: Sports Authority Field at Mile High, Denver.

Cool: Post 14,000.

[Rohirrim]

We would win this game if Jake Plummer was still our QB.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Dude I am amped. I can't wait for gametime, just don't want the heartbreak. You are telling me you have no doubts about Manning in the playoffs whatsoever?

Would you prefer Joe Flacco?

[ZONA]

[R8R H8R]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Dude I am amped. I can't wait for gametime, just don't want the heartbreak. You are telling me you have no doubts about Manning in the playoffs whatsoever?

Manning is the least of my worries. Let me ask you, are you telling me that you have more confidence in Flacco on the road, than you do Manning at home? Particularly after each of their performances three weeks ago?

[NFLBRONCO]

My biggest worries are

1. Offense clicking in first half
2 Baltimore banging us up for next game
3. OL injuries

[extralife]

I am very scared about any playoff game that a team I follow should win. Too, too much can happen

I would be a terrible football player.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

Dude I am amped. I can't wait for gametime, just don't want the heartbreak. You are telling me you have no doubts about Manning in the playoffs whatsoever?

Not a single doubt. We have a great team. Manning is a part of that - an important one - but he's not the whole team.

If anyone should be worried this week, it should be Flacco.

[SoCalBronco]

I feel quite confident. Denver is the most balanced and consistent team there is. Baltimore still has serious issues.