Andrews contradicts Shanahan on RGIII injury - The Orange Mane

TonyR · 01-06-2013, 01:31 PM

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When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.

Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.

The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.

Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.

Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.

"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion."

"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."

Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:

"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'

'Yeah, he can go back in.'

'Robert, go back in.'

"That was it," Shanahan said.

Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.

"I'm the one that shut him down that day, finally," Andrews said. "I've been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He's doing a lot better this week, but he's still recovering and I'm holding my breath because of it."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...njury/1811689/

SoCalBronco · 01-06-2013, 01:33 PM

Interesting to see he didn't say anything for four weeks and waited until a playoff game to make an allegation. Someone is going to lose a client....fast.

RhymesayersDU · 01-06-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Interesting to see he didn't say anything for four weeks and waited until a playoff game to make an allegation. Someone is going to lose a client....fast.

Not sure who is going to lose who in your scenario. Athletes need Dr. Andrews more than he needs them.

SoCalBronco · 01-06-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Not sure who is going to lose who in your scenario. Athletes need Dr. Andrews more than he needs them.

No one needs someone who waits four weeks to make an allegation about something he is supposedly concerned about. Tony's article also omits admissions the doctor made about how Griffin has passed the tests etc. it cuts off the quote.

I'd be shocked if Washingon ever used Andrews again.

RhymesayersDU · 01-06-2013, 01:49 PM

That's pretty shortsighted. They're not going to risk RGIII's health over this.

I'm not saying there aren't other great doctors in this country, but everybody goes to Dr. Andrews for a reason.

BroncoMan4ever · 01-06-2013, 02:09 PM

Doesn't Mike have a history of antics like this?

bpc · 01-06-2013, 02:10 PM

It appears some have an axe to grind against Shanahan. Pretty sure if RG3 couldn't play, and Shanny was told RG3 couldn't play, he wouldn't have played. TD sat out a quarter in the super bowl for the very same reason.

Speaking of shanny, they skins are rolling the Seabags, 14-0 in the 1st quarter. Your distraction didn't work Andrew.

mhgaffney · 01-06-2013, 02:14 PM

You can clearly see that Griffin is playing hurt.

He has just thrown two TDs - the kid is sensational -- and Washington leads.

He's already taken some big hits. Will they carry him off the field?

broncofever · 01-06-2013, 02:26 PM

Wasn't Shanahan fined recently for downplaying a players injury? If Shanahan actually did lie and say a player was cleared by a doctor when he wasn't he will probably get fined again. But as long as they win I doubt there really be much fallout from it. Though if I was the doctor don't think I'd want to keep working with the red skins if they are going to throw him under the bus making claims he cleared someone when he didn't

DENVERDUI55 · 01-06-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I'd be shocked if Washingon ever used Andrews again.

He was checking him out in the ice fishing box. I'm sure you mean after this year.

SoCalBronco · 01-06-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

He was checking him out in the ice fishing box. I'm sure you mean after this year.

I sure he will be taken care of after this game...

RhymesayersDU · 01-06-2013, 02:45 PM

, not sure what you're beef with Andrews is, but this is completely irrational.

Is this a Shanahan thing?

TonyR · 01-06-2013, 02:48 PM

Just saw someone posted about this earlier today in the Wildcard Sunday thread:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...80&postcount=2

LongDongJohnson · 01-06-2013, 03:03 PM

Time to dust off shanahans old lie detector and see whos the one thats really making up stories.

Lestat · 01-06-2013, 03:52 PM

please, no one is ego driven enough to steer a athlete away from the best surgeon in the field just because his story differs.
you would have to be a complete moron to do something like that.

DomCasual · 01-06-2013, 04:09 PM

Wow. He just bent his leg in a way that wasn't natural.

OrangeSe7en · 01-06-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

Wow. He just bent his leg in a way that wasn't natural.

He's been cleared by Dr Andrews. He said that he had passed their tests and so he's back out there.

Man-Goblin · 01-06-2013, 04:10 PM

And RGIII is now inevitably writhing in pain on the ground.

What the hell is Andrews supposed to say? He's one of the best sports medicine doctors in the world. You think he'd want his name attached to clearing Griffin if he were to go out there and get hurt?

Shanahan is a great coach. But honest when it comes to injury situations he is not.

bombay · 01-06-2013, 04:15 PM

Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

OrangeSe7en · 01-06-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay

Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

He has been subsequently cleared by Andrews. This isn't on Shanahan.

DomCasual · 01-06-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay

Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

Yeah, that was tough to watch. I hope the kid is okay.

broncofever · 01-06-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en

He has been subsequently cleared by Andrews. This isn't on Shanahan.

The game in question was from earlier in December correct? For that game I'd say if what the dr said is accurate then Shanny was wrong to say he'd been cleared, but today's game he's been cleared. I can't help but think that's why the article got released so the dr could not only clear himself of liability but prevent a recurrence of anyone other than him clearing a player or making claims he did

OrangeSe7en · 01-06-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by broncofever

The game in question was from earlier in December correct? For that game I'd say if what the dr said is accurate then Shanny was wrong to say he'd been cleared, but today's game he's been cleared. I can't help but think that's why the article got released so the dr could not only clear himself of liability but prevent a recurrence of anyone other than him clearing a player or making claims he did

Correct. The doctor was referring to a previous game. And in that same article he has said that, subsequently, RGIII passed their tests, so he cleared him.

You have to really spell this out for people here. The reading comprehension is so bad.

DomCasual · 01-06-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en

Correct. The doctor was referring to a previous game. And in that same article he has said that, subsequently, RGIII passed their tests, so he cleared him.

You have to really spell this out for people here. The reading comprehension is so bad.

Are you even watching the game right now? You don't have to be James Andrews to know that the kid is hurt.

ant1999e · 01-06-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

It appears some have an axe to grind against Shanahan. Pretty sure if RG3 couldn't play, and Shanny was told RG3 couldn't play, he wouldn't have played. TD sat out a quarter in the super bowl for the very same reason.

Speaking of shanny, they skins are rolling the Seabags, 14-0 in the 1st quarter. Your distraction didn't work Andrew.

Hmmm

01-06-2013, 01:33 PM	#2
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,303 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Interesting to see he didn't say anything for four weeks and waited until a playoff game to make an allegation. Someone is going to lose a client....fast. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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broncofever Rookie New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 57 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Wasn't Shanahan fined recently for downplaying a players injury? If Shanahan actually did lie and say a player was cleared by a doctor when he wasn't he will probably get fined again. But as long as they win I doubt there really be much fallout from it. Though if I was the doctor don't think I'd want to keep working with the red skins if they are going to throw him under the bus making claims he cleared someone when he didn't Last edited by broncofever; 01-06-2013 at 02:29 PM..

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01-06-2013, 01:49 PM	#5
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	That's pretty shortsighted. They're not going to risk RGIII's health over this. I'm not saying there aren't other great doctors in this country, but everybody goes to Dr. Andrews for a reason.

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BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,571 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	Doesn't Mike have a history of antics like this?

01-06-2013, 02:10 PM	#7
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	It appears some have an axe to grind against Shanahan. Pretty sure if RG3 couldn't play, and Shanny was told RG3 couldn't play, he wouldn't have played. TD sat out a quarter in the super bowl for the very same reason. Speaking of shanny, they skins are rolling the Seabags, 14-0 in the 1st quarter. Your distraction didn't work Andrew.

01-06-2013, 02:14 PM	#8
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,770	You can clearly see that Griffin is playing hurt. He has just thrown two TDs - the kid is sensational -- and Washington leads. He's already taken some big hits. Will they carry him off the field?

01-06-2013, 02:45 PM	#12
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	, not sure what you're beef with Andrews is, but this is completely irrational. Is this a Shanahan thing?

01-06-2013, 02:48 PM	#13
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,570	Just saw someone posted about this earlier today in the Wildcard Sunday thread: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...80&postcount=2

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LongDongJohnson Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,626 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Time to dust off shanahans old lie detector and see whos the one thats really making up stories.

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Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	please, no one is ego driven enough to steer a athlete away from the best surgeon in the field just because his story differs. you would have to be a complete moron to do something like that.

01-06-2013, 04:09 PM	#16
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,171 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Wow. He just bent his leg in a way that wasn't natural.

01-06-2013, 04:10 PM	#18
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	And RGIII is now inevitably writhing in pain on the ground. What the hell is Andrews supposed to say? He's one of the best sports medicine doctors in the world. You think he'd want his name attached to clearing Griffin if he were to go out there and get hurt? Shanahan is a great coach. But honest when it comes to injury situations he is not.

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bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,330	Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.