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01-01-2013, 01:27 AM

America voted the Bears job is the most enticing. I don't get that. Their 2 best defenders are on their last legs, Devin Hester might retire because of Lovie's firing and Cutler/Marshall are a coaches worst nightmare.

Just don't get that.

I think that the Jags, Bills and Bears are the worst jobs.

Atwater His Ass · 01-01-2013, 01:50 AM

You give Cutler just an average OL and OC and see what he and Marshall can do. People can say what they want over their Cutler butt-hurt, but Chicago is nothing without him.

Cutler is the guy who they've comitted too in Chicago and they need to build around him. There's not a lot of QB's that can take the punishment he's taken there due to that leaky OL and keep getting back up.

The Bears are a 10 win team that missed the playoffs on a tie breaker. That doesn't happen often in the NFL. Usually 10 wins just about guarentee's a playoff spot, if not a division title.

maven · 01-01-2013, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

You give Cutler just an average OL and OC and see what he and Marshall can do. People can say what they want over their Cutler butt-hurt, but Chicago is nothing without him.

Cutler is the guy who they've comitted too in Chicago and they need to build around him. There's not a lot of QB's that can take the punishment he's taken there due to that leaky OL and keep getting back up.

The Bears are a 10 win team that missed the playoffs on a tie breaker. That doesn't happen often in the NFL. Usually 10 wins just about guarentee's a playoff spot, if not a division title.

If the new coach doesn't like cutler he's gone

maven · 01-01-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

America voted the Bears job is the most enticing. I don't get that. Their 2 best defenders are on their last legs, Devin Hester might retire because of Lovie's firing and Cutler/Marshall are a coaches worst nightmare.

Just don't get that.

I think that the Jags, Bills and Bears are the worst jobs.

I would like te jags Job as long as I'm not force fed tebow

Tombstone RJ · 01-01-2013, 07:16 AM

the two most enticing NFL jobs have to be Sandy Eggo and Chicago simply because of the QB situation. The QB position is by far the most important position on the team and if you have that QB in place then everything else can be improved. Personally, I'd take Rivers over Cutler if I was a HC candidate.

maven · 01-01-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

the two most enticing NFL jobs have to be Sandy Eggo and Chicago simply because of the QB situation. The QB position is by far the most important position on the team and if you have that QB in place then everything else can be improved. Personally, I'd take Rivers over Cutler if I was a HC candidate.

I disagree. I wouldn't want either of them. I'd rather hit the draft and groom my own guy.

mwill07 · 01-01-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

KC will be a very appealing place for a HC.

-No GM/owner breathing down their neck constantly.
-No extreme media attack like in NY, PHI or CHI.
-1st overall pick and other high picks in the draft.
-Power. This can't be emphasized enough. Clark is willing to let a HC have a lot of power. Not many HC's get that opportunity.
-Decent team with a few good young pieces.

negatives:
-ownership who doesn't really care about winning - is likely to be out of town watching soccer instead of fixing things when they go bad.
-have to live in Kansas City.
-responsibility - having no competant GM heaps all of the rest of the responsibility and accountability onto the coaches doorstep.
-inheriting the worst team in the league.
-will have to deal with Manning/Osweiller in the division

Bronco Boy · 01-01-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mwill07

negatives:
-ownership who doesn't really care about winning - is likely to be out of town watching soccer instead of fixing things when they go bad.
-have to live in Kansas City.
-responsibility - having no competant GM heaps all of the rest of the responsibility and accountability onto the coaches doorstep.
-inheriting the worst team in the league.
-will have to deal with Manning/Osweiller in the division

I would add to this list the general culture of losing that has been present in KC for 20+ years. Who really wants to coach a team when most of the fans were in diapers the last time they won a playoff game?

2KBack · 01-01-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

You give Cutler just an average OL and OC and see what he and Marshall can do. People can say what they want over their Cutler butt-hurt, but Chicago is nothing without him.

Cutler is the guy who they've comitted too in Chicago and they need to build around him. There's not a lot of QB's that can take the punishment he's taken there due to that leaky OL and keep getting back up.

The Bears are a 10 win team that missed the playoffs on a tie breaker. That doesn't happen often in the NFL. Usually 10 wins just about guarentee's a playoff spot, if not a division title.

I'm sorry, but the Cutler getting punished so much more than anyone else is a myth. Big Ben and Rodgers are annually leaders in getting sacked, Alex Smith was the most sacked QB in the league last year and made the NFC championship. The good ones make it work. Matt freakin Cassel went 11-5 and was the most sacked QB that year. Cutler gets sacked an average of 2.5 times a game. Not great, but not exactly the assault people make it out to be.

As for 10 win teams not making the playoff. That is also a myth. Teams with 10 wins or more have missed the playoffs 6 out of the last 12 years (since realignment).

Tombstone RJ · 01-01-2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by maven

I disagree. I wouldn't want either of them. I'd rather hit the draft and groom my own guy.

fair enough, but when a FA HC is looking for a job where he can win right away, a franchise QB that is already in place makes much more sense.

broncosteven · 01-01-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

John Clayton said on twitter that he believes Andy Reid will be our next HC.

That's my top guy.

Best fit IMO. He doesn't have to worry about the media overload, he gets full power and he's got a very good system for QB's.

John Clayton has been wrong more than he has been right lately.

If you did get Reid I think you would have a better chance finding/drafting a decent QB but he would also need to acquire a new WR corps so the rebuild will still take 3-5 years.

broncosteven · 01-01-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

America voted the Bears job is the most enticing. I don't get that. Their 2 best defenders are on their last legs, Devin Hester might retire because of Lovie's firing and Cutler/Marshall are a coaches worst nightmare.

Just don't get that.

I think that the Jags, Bills and Bears are the worst jobs.

Hester is dumber than a box of rocks, he is just butt hurt, he will be back. It is not like he is going to go get his masters at MIT or start a Hedgefund.

Chicago is closer to winning than kFc, kFc needs a totally new O, duh bears just need an OL and can afford to retool the aging D over the next couple years. If they acquired 2-3 OL and a TE they would be an instant upgrade, MLB and DT, would be their only priorites on D.

Bob's your Information Minister · 01-01-2013, 02:40 PM

01-01-2013, 02:44 PM

Pioli will stay in KC for 20 years jut like Peterson

broncosteven · 01-01-2013, 02:46 PM

Lilja retires only at 31. Yet another hole for kFc to plug.

Albert is a FA they have to work a deal for also.

DBroncos4life · 01-01-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

Reid would be the best thing to ever happen to Geno Smith.

Do you think Geno will fall to the Cards

01-01-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Do you think Geno will fall to the Cards

It will be funny when every other team gets their top coice at HC and KFC is left with some unproven scrub, I'm hoping pioli promotes daboll to fully develop quinn

01-01-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Do you think Geno will fall to the Cards

Ugh. We're interviewing Ray Horton this week. I think he's a good defensive guy, but he's not who I would like.

We're also interviewing the Syracuse HC. I have no idea about him but apparently Sean Payton is highly recommending him around the league.

01-01-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Do you think Geno will fall to the Cards

We are used to chiefs fans slobbering over coaches/players that never end up going to that trash of a team.

01-01-2013, 03:22 PM

Arizona interviewed Ray Horton this afternoon and haven't even had a meeting with Reid yet. Sounds like a false report?

They are actually meeting with Mike McCoy this weekend.

source: CardsMarkD Twitter

DBroncos4life · 01-01-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

Ugh. We're interviewing Ray Horton this week. I think he's a good defensive guy, but he's not who I would like.

We're also interviewing the Syracuse HC. I have no idea about him but apparently Sean Payton is highly recommending him around the league.

Both are interviewing with Buffalo as well. Ray would at least keep the 3-4 D intact.

SoCalBronco · 01-01-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FearLanier

Arizona interviewed Ray Horton this afternoon and haven't even had a meeting with Reid yet. Sounds like a false report?

They are actually meeting with Mike McCoy this weekend.

source: CardsMarkD Twitter

I'm sensing fear in your post.

Kaylore · 01-01-2013, 03:44 PM

KC has to be the last place anyone wants to go. Like Peyton, they will be "disqualified" early from a lot of the upper tier coaches.

Bob's your Information Minister · 01-01-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

KC has to be the last place anyone wants to go. Like Peyton, they will be "disqualified" early from a lot of the upper tier coaches.

With Pioli out the door, we're fine. The roster isn't devoid of talent. Charles, Bowe, Breaston, Hali, Houston, Flowers, Berry, Albert, lots of good players.

01-01-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

KC has to be the last place anyone wants to go. Like Peyton, they will be "disqualified" early from a lot of the upper tier coaches.

I sense some rival hatred in this post, along with direction without knowledge.

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FearLanier Guest Posts: n/a	Arizona interviewed Ray Horton this afternoon and haven't even had a meeting with Reid yet. Sounds like a false report? They are actually meeting with Mike McCoy this weekend. source: CardsMarkD Twitter Last edited by FearLanier; 01-01-2013 at 03:25 PM..

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01-01-2013, 01:27 AM	#2176
FearLanier Guest Posts: n/a	America voted the Bears job is the most enticing. I don't get that. Their 2 best defenders are on their last legs, Devin Hester might retire because of Lovie's firing and Cutler/Marshall are a coaches worst nightmare. Just don't get that. I think that the Jags, Bills and Bears are the worst jobs.

01-01-2013, 01:50 AM	#2177
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,941 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	You give Cutler just an average OL and OC and see what he and Marshall can do. People can say what they want over their Cutler butt-hurt, but Chicago is nothing without him. Cutler is the guy who they've comitted too in Chicago and they need to build around him. There's not a lot of QB's that can take the punishment he's taken there due to that leaky OL and keep getting back up. The Bears are a 10 win team that missed the playoffs on a tie breaker. That doesn't happen often in the NFL. Usually 10 wins just about guarentee's a playoff spot, if not a division title.

01-01-2013, 07:16 AM	#2180
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 26,086 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	the two most enticing NFL jobs have to be Sandy Eggo and Chicago simply because of the QB situation. The QB position is by far the most important position on the team and if you have that QB in place then everything else can be improved. Personally, I'd take Rivers over Cutler if I was a HC candidate.

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Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 26,765 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!

01-01-2013, 02:44 PM	#2189
Tim Guest Posts: n/a	Pioli will stay in KC for 20 years jut like Peterson

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broncosteven Kranz Dictum SB50 CHAMPION BRONCOS! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 48,921	Lilja retires only at 31. Yet another hole for kFc to plug. Albert is a FA they have to work a deal for also.

01-01-2013, 03:44 PM	#2198
Kaylore Three Lombardis This one's for Pat Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 52,506 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	KC has to be the last place anyone wants to go. Like Peyton, they will be "disqualified" early from a lot of the upper tier coaches.