If we lose JDR to a HC job would you... - The Orange Mane

broncosteven · 12-31-2012, 01:42 PM

...want to go after Lovie as a DC?

The thing he was the most successful in Chicago was teaching how to create turnovers, he developed DT's, LB's, and was very good developing CB's.

Whom else would you like to target as a DC if we had to fill the position?

g6matty · 12-31-2012, 01:43 PM

who ever it is needs to be creative and able to maximize the use of vonathan miller

Tombstone RJ · 12-31-2012, 01:44 PM

SoCalBronco · 12-31-2012, 01:44 PM

I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.

Agamemnon · 12-31-2012, 01:47 PM

That would be a great hire. He seems to me like he would fit in really well with Fox. But here's hoping we can keep JDR for at least one more season.

DBroncos4life · 12-31-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.

I said the same thing in the draft board.

Kaylore · 12-31-2012, 01:49 PM

Lovie is like a Del Rio anyway, except a little less lazy.

Not that Del Rio has been that way here.

SoCalBronco · 12-31-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I said the same thing in the draft board.

You know what would be even better? A picture of Kevin Bacon made out of....bacon.

Bronco Yoda · 12-31-2012, 01:51 PM

I'd go for that... but he'd have to really commit to a few years. I want some ****ing continuity damn it! Is that too much to ask.

ludo21 · 12-31-2012, 01:57 PM

jdr aint going nowhere.

i got sources

DBroncos4life · 12-31-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

You know what would be even better? A picture of Kevin Bacon made out of....bacon.

probably the greatest thing ever

Lestat · 12-31-2012, 02:10 PM

ideally i'd snag Horton from the Cards but that isn't happening.
Lovie will get another HC gig so that isn't likely either. but Dick Jauron on the other hand... he's available.

R8R H8R · 12-31-2012, 02:12 PM

I really don't care because I trust Fox to make a good hire/promotion. That being said, Lovie is fine, but I probably prefer promoting Richard Smith.

It would provide continuity and he has done a good job w/the LB'ers considering what he has got: mainly, a superstar, a guy that is as old as Peyton, an over-achieving undersized OLB, and a drunk.

Binkythefrog · 12-31-2012, 02:15 PM

When I lived in Chicago - I remember some complaints about him not being creative with pass rushing schemes and always relying on the ol Tampa Cover 2 D. But you really can't argue with results - Chicago's D was pretty good again this year.

broncosteven · 12-31-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

ideally i'd snag Horton from the Cards but that isn't happening.
Lovie will get another HC gig so that isn't likely either. but Dick Jauron on the other hand... he's available.

Step away from Jauron, he might be an ok DC but not as good a Lovie.

I am not sure Lovie is going have people knocking his door down to get him, it is not like he made duh bears a complete team, he couldn't evaluate offensive talent and got lucky with Hester and his return scores.

Lovie adapted their D away from the cover 2 most of the year playing to his D strenghts. If we lose JDR I would hope Elway would go after him hard.

Aftermath · 12-31-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Lovie is like a Del Rio anyway, except a little less lazy.

Not that Del Rio has been that way here.

lolwut

extralife · 12-31-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

That would be a great hire. He seems to me like he would fit in really well with Fox.

and it seems to me he wouldn't.

Lovie is a staunch Cover 2 guy, he's run the same defensive system for over ten years now. do we really want to change things up like that? if he doesn't get a HC position, Lovie is going to go somewhere where he'll get full control over the defense

Lestat · 12-31-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Step away from Jauron, he might be an ok DC but not as good a Lovie.

I am not sure Lovie is going have people knocking his door down to get him, it is not like he made duh bears a complete team, he couldn't evaluate offensive talent and got lucky with Hester and his return scores.

Lovie adapted their D away from the cover 2 most of the year playing to his D strenghts. If we lose JDR I would hope Elway would go after him hard.

Lovie would be #1 with a bullet but Lovie is what Fox was when he left Carolina. a proven HC with a track record of building teams and defense.
he'll get another HC job if he wants it, he might not feel a HC gig is right and go back to being a DC but it would likely be for 1-2 seasons and then he's a HC again.

Lestat · 12-31-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

and it seems to me he wouldn't.

Lovie is a staunch Cover 2 guy, he's run the same defensive system for over ten years now. do we really want to change things up like that? if he doesn't get a HC position, Lovie is going to go somewhere where he'll get full control over the defense

any DC you bring in is gonna change the D. Allen was aggressive and used multiple fronts similar to Gregg Williams who was his mentor.
Del Rio is more of a safe play bend but don't break guy who will dial it up when needed but prefers his D to not allow the big play and stay on their assignment,

ZONA · 12-31-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

jdr aint going nowhere.

i got sources

Well I don't think we'll lose both our guys. If both left that would be 3 coordinators lost in 2 seasons. The odds of that happening are very low. 1 guy may go but I doubt we lose 2.

jmz313 · 12-31-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Lovie would be #1 with a bullet but Lovie is what Fox was when he left Carolina. a proven HC with a track record of building teams and defense.
he'll get another HC job if he wants it, he might not feel a HC gig is right and go back to being a DC but it would likely be for 1-2 seasons and then he's a HC again.

I dont think lovie proved much as a HC. He never got chicago to that next step. He probably should of been fired last year. Fox, in contrast did coach in a superbowl.

Lestat · 12-31-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jmz313

I dont think lovie proved much as a HC. He never got chicago to that next step. He probably should of been fired last year. Fox, in contrast did coach in a superbowl.

umm, you do realize that the head coach of the Chicago Bears team that Peyton Manning beat in the super bowl was Lovie Smith right?

in fact, you do realize that Lovie has a better career record than Fox, has 1 less division title, has 2 NFC championship games to Fox's 1. both lost a super bowl.

so what exactly didn't Lovie prove as a HC?

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-31-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.

As a Bears fan who posts on a Broncos' board, can you tell us more about what we could expect from a defense coached by Lovie?

Ratboy · 12-31-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.

and going back to the 24th rank Defense in points and 20th in yards?

Allen wasn't special.

Lestat · 12-31-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

and going back to the 24th rank Defense in points and 20th in yards?

Allen wasn't special.

we were fifth in sacks and it was the first year Elway had his hands on the team. the roster is much better this year than when Allen had the defense.

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12-31-2012, 01:42 PM	#1
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,008 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	If we lose JDR to a HC job would you... ...want to go after Lovie as a DC? The thing he was the most successful in Chicago was teaching how to create turnovers, he developed DT's, LB's, and was very good developing CB's. Whom else would you like to target as a DC if we had to fill the position?

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g6matty Pro Bowler "i had dreams of confetti..." Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 742	who ever it is needs to be creative and able to maximize the use of vonathan miller

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Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,426 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	That would be a great hire. He seems to me like he would fit in really well with Fox. But here's hoping we can keep JDR for at least one more season.

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Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,009 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Lovie is like a Del Rio anyway, except a little less lazy. Not that Del Rio has been that way here.

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Bronco Yoda Stokley once... ...saved me from a beating Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,244	I'd go for that... but he'd have to really commit to a few years. I want some ****ing continuity damn it! Is that too much to ask.

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ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,898 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	jdr aint going nowhere. i got sources

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Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,144	ideally i'd snag Horton from the Cards but that isn't happening. Lovie will get another HC gig so that isn't likely either. but Dick Jauron on the other hand... he's available.

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R8R H8R Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Virgil Green	I really don't care because I trust Fox to make a good hire/promotion. That being said, Lovie is fine, but I probably prefer promoting Richard Smith. It would provide continuity and he has done a good job w/the LB'ers considering what he has got: mainly, a superstar, a guy that is as old as Peyton, an over-achieving undersized OLB, and a drunk.

12-31-2012, 02:15 PM	#14
Binkythefrog Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 310	When I lived in Chicago - I remember some complaints about him not being creative with pass rushing schemes and always relying on the ol Tampa Cover 2 D. But you really can't argue with results - Chicago's D was pretty good again this year.