The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-31-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,178

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default If we lose JDR to a HC job would you...

...want to go after Lovie as a DC?

The thing he was the most successful in Chicago was teaching how to create turnovers, he developed DT's, LB's, and was very good developing CB's.

Whom else would you like to target as a DC if we had to fill the position?
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 12-31-2012, 02:43 PM   #2
g6matty
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

who ever it is needs to be creative and able to maximize the use of vonathan miller
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:44 PM   #3
Tombstone RJ
Ring of Famer
 
Tombstone RJ's Avatar
 
Old School

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: In the Tetons!
Posts: 22,309

Adopt-a-Bronco:
WorrellWilliams
Default

yes
Tombstone RJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:44 PM   #4
SoCalBronco
Nixonite
 
SoCalBronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arcadia, CA
Posts: 37,080

Adopt-a-Bronco:
D.J. Williams
Default

I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.
__________________
SoCalBronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:47 PM   #5
Agamemnon
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

That would be a great hire. He seems to me like he would fit in really well with Fox. But here's hoping we can keep JDR for at least one more season.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:48 PM   #6
DBroncos4life
Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU
 
DBroncos4life's Avatar
 
Bacon bits

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The wrong side of right.
Posts: 28,758

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Julius "Fluff"
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBronco View Post
I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.
I said the same thing in the draft board.
DBroncos4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:49 PM   #7
Kaylore
4 time AFCW Champs
 
Kaylore's Avatar
 
12 straight road division wins

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ceti Alpha V
Posts: 47,274

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

Lovie is like a Del Rio anyway, except a little less lazy.


Not that Del Rio has been that way here.
Kaylore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:51 PM   #8
SoCalBronco
Nixonite
 
SoCalBronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arcadia, CA
Posts: 37,080

Adopt-a-Bronco:
D.J. Williams
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBroncos4life View Post
I said the same thing in the draft board.
You know what would be even better? A picture of Kevin Bacon made out of....bacon.
__________________
SoCalBronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:51 PM   #9
Bronco Yoda
.
 
Bronco Yoda's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 9,505
Default

I'd go for that... but he'd have to really commit to a few years. I want some ****ing continuity damn it! Is that too much to ask.
Bronco Yoda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 02:57 PM   #10
ludo21
RIP Darrent Williams
 
ludo21's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 20,080

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Paul Ernster
Default

jdr aint going nowhere.

i got sources
ludo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:02 PM   #11
DBroncos4life
Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU
 
DBroncos4life's Avatar
 
Bacon bits

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The wrong side of right.
Posts: 28,758

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Julius "Fluff"
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBronco View Post
You know what would be even better? A picture of Kevin Bacon made out of....bacon.
probably the greatest thing ever
DBroncos4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:10 PM   #12
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,839
Default

ideally i'd snag Horton from the Cards but that isn't happening.
Lovie will get another HC gig so that isn't likely either. but Dick Jauron on the other hand... he's available.
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:12 PM   #13
R8R H8R
Ring of Famer
 
R8R H8R's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Exiled in So. Cal.
Posts: 2,987

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Virgil Green
Default

I really don't care because I trust Fox to make a good hire/promotion. That being said, Lovie is fine, but I probably prefer promoting Richard Smith.

It would provide continuity and he has done a good job w/the LB'ers considering what he has got: mainly, a superstar, a guy that is as old as Peyton, an over-achieving undersized OLB, and a drunk.
R8R H8R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:15 PM   #14
Binkythefrog
Seasoned Veteran
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 413
Default

When I lived in Chicago - I remember some complaints about him not being creative with pass rushing schemes and always relying on the ol Tampa Cover 2 D. But you really can't argue with results - Chicago's D was pretty good again this year.
Binkythefrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:16 PM   #15
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,178

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
ideally i'd snag Horton from the Cards but that isn't happening.
Lovie will get another HC gig so that isn't likely either. but Dick Jauron on the other hand... he's available.
Step away from Jauron, he might be an ok DC but not as good a Lovie.

I am not sure Lovie is going have people knocking his door down to get him, it is not like he made duh bears a complete team, he couldn't evaluate offensive talent and got lucky with Hester and his return scores.

Lovie adapted their D away from the cover 2 most of the year playing to his D strenghts. If we lose JDR I would hope Elway would go after him hard.
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:43 PM   #16
Aftermath
Creep
 
Aftermath's Avatar
 
Broncos | Flyers | Tigers

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The Dirty Glove
Posts: 834

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Eric Decker
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
Lovie is like a Del Rio anyway, except a little less lazy.


Not that Del Rio has been that way here.
lolwut
Aftermath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:46 PM   #17
extralife
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,087
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
That would be a great hire. He seems to me like he would fit in really well with Fox.
and it seems to me he wouldn't.

Lovie is a staunch Cover 2 guy, he's run the same defensive system for over ten years now. do we really want to change things up like that? if he doesn't get a HC position, Lovie is going to go somewhere where he'll get full control over the defense
extralife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:56 PM   #18
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by broncosteven View Post
Step away from Jauron, he might be an ok DC but not as good a Lovie.

I am not sure Lovie is going have people knocking his door down to get him, it is not like he made duh bears a complete team, he couldn't evaluate offensive talent and got lucky with Hester and his return scores.

Lovie adapted their D away from the cover 2 most of the year playing to his D strenghts. If we lose JDR I would hope Elway would go after him hard.
Lovie would be #1 with a bullet but Lovie is what Fox was when he left Carolina. a proven HC with a track record of building teams and defense.
he'll get another HC job if he wants it, he might not feel a HC gig is right and go back to being a DC but it would likely be for 1-2 seasons and then he's a HC again.
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:59 PM   #19
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by extralife View Post
and it seems to me he wouldn't.

Lovie is a staunch Cover 2 guy, he's run the same defensive system for over ten years now. do we really want to change things up like that? if he doesn't get a HC position, Lovie is going to go somewhere where he'll get full control over the defense
any DC you bring in is gonna change the D. Allen was aggressive and used multiple fronts similar to Gregg Williams who was his mentor.
Del Rio is more of a safe play bend but don't break guy who will dial it up when needed but prefers his D to not allow the big play and stay on their assignment,
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 03:59 PM   #20
ZONA
Ring of Famer
 
ZONA's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 10,767

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Chris Harris
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ludo21 View Post
jdr aint going nowhere.

i got sources
Well I don't think we'll lose both our guys. If both left that would be 3 coordinators lost in 2 seasons. The odds of that happening are very low. 1 guy may go but I doubt we lose 2.
ZONA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 04:15 PM   #21
jmz313
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,406
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
Lovie would be #1 with a bullet but Lovie is what Fox was when he left Carolina. a proven HC with a track record of building teams and defense.
he'll get another HC job if he wants it, he might not feel a HC gig is right and go back to being a DC but it would likely be for 1-2 seasons and then he's a HC again.
I dont think lovie proved much as a HC. He never got chicago to that next step. He probably should of been fired last year. Fox, in contrast did coach in a superbowl.
jmz313 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 04:31 PM   #22
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmz313 View Post
I dont think lovie proved much as a HC. He never got chicago to that next step. He probably should of been fired last year. Fox, in contrast did coach in a superbowl.
umm, you do realize that the head coach of the Chicago Bears team that Peyton Manning beat in the super bowl was Lovie Smith right?

in fact, you do realize that Lovie has a better career record than Fox, has 1 less division title, has 2 NFC championship games to Fox's 1. both lost a super bowl.

so what exactly didn't Lovie prove as a HC?

Last edited by Lestat; 12-31-2012 at 04:47 PM..
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 04:34 PM   #23
Hercules Rockefeller
Ring of Famer
 
Hercules Rockefeller's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,279

Adopt-a-Bronco:
DJ Williams
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBronco View Post
I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.
As a Bears fan who posts on a Broncos' board, can you tell us more about what we could expect from a defense coached by Lovie?
Hercules Rockefeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 04:36 PM   #24
Ratboy
It's all over...
 
Ratboy's Avatar
 
ಠ_ಠ

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: England
Posts: 15,652
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBronco View Post
I would take Lovie. Actually I was hoping we could get Allen back if JDR left but looks like Oakland kept him.
and going back to the 24th rank Defense in points and 20th in yards?

Allen wasn't special.
Ratboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 04:43 PM   #25
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,839
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratboy View Post
and going back to the 24th rank Defense in points and 20th in yards?

Allen wasn't special.
we were fifth in sacks and it was the first year Elway had his hands on the team. the roster is much better this year than when Allen had the defense.
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:30 AM.


Denver Broncos