Early Games Thread 12-30-12

[Broncobiv]

Originally Posted by Vine

Don't ever understand that. Kicking the extra point ensures that you are still on the short end of the scoreboard. I don't care what quarter, or how early in the game it is. If you are down by 2 after a touchdown, you go for 2, to try to tie up the scoreboard.

So if you miss the 2-pointer, you're down by 2. Opponent scores a TD in the 4th quarter, now you're down by 9, meaning 2 scores. Whereas you could've been down by only 8 and 1 score had you just kicked the XP earlier.

You're wrong. Sorry.

[troya900]

Originally Posted by razorwire77

Hate that defensive holding call, but CB's have to know that it's going to get called every time. He had good position on Andre Johnson and didn't need to grab.

Houston still looks really vulnerable.

Yeah too bad it doesn't get called both ways. That's the most frustrating thing about crap calls like that. Ticky tack hand on a guy gets called, then texan defender is all over the colts guy before the ball gets there and nothing...smh

[tesnyde]

Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Man if I ever see Dan Dierdorf I am going to punch him in his giant vagina. He is now saying Indy should pull the starters. Shut up already.

Your avatar is applicable. Anyhow, you got my support. Lay him out. Shut him up. Put him down..

[baja]

Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Man if I ever see Dan Dierdorf I am going to punch him in his giant vagina. He is now saying Indy should pull the starters. Shut up already.

He's so bad I have the sound muted and am listing to "Here comes Santa Claus" over and over.

[broncosteven]

Freaking Foster going to give Houston the lead. I hope Luck doesn't disappear like he did vs kFc in the 2nd half

[maher_tyler]

Terrible Indy D

[SoCalBronco]

Come on Bears hold them off. Go Indy.

[SoCalBronco]

Come on Bears hold them off. Go Indy.

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Dierdorf doesn't bother me much cause his voice brings back memories as a kid watching MNF. Gumbel on the other hand is pathetic

[Vine]

Originally Posted by Broncobiv

So if you miss the 2-pointer, you're down by 2. Opponent scores a TD in the 4th quarter, now you're down by 9, meaning 2 scores. Whereas you could've been down by only 8 and 1 score had you just kicked the XP earlier.

You're wrong. Sorry.

Oh I fully understand the mathematical dangers of going for 2. But to say I am wrong is just your opinion. Cite a study or a link that shows going for 1 (or 2) is the correct call.

[razorwire77]

Don't forget to RSVP to my 2014 Dan Dierdorf stroke party. BYOB.

[broncolife]

yes

[broncosteven]

SWEET! I love this KR for the Colts!

[razorwire77]

YES!

[maher_tyler]

**** YEA!!!!

[theAPAOps5]

Houston is not going into the playoffs on a roll, regardless if they win. They have some issues.

[Marshall Dumervil]

Haha, dude just ran a straight line.

[Broncobiv]

Originally Posted by Vine

Oh I fully understand the mathematical dangers of going for 2. But to say I am wrong is just your opinion. Cite a study or a link that shows going for 1 (or 2) is the correct call.

Honestly, I doubt such a study even exists. There isn't enough data due to the fact that it is so rare for a team to go for 2 before the 4th quarter (unless they're down by like 4 TD). That in itself is proof that kicking the XP is the right call.

You never know what is going to happen later in the game score-wise, whether it be FG's or TD's, and by which team. Take the guaranteed points and go for 2 only when necessary. I guess it's just coincidence that "my opinion" just happens to be shared by virtually every football coach in existence?

[HAT]

Originally Posted by Broncobiv

So if you miss the 2-pointer, you're down by 2. Opponent scores a TD in the 4th quarter, now you're down by 9, meaning 2 scores. Whereas you could've been down by only 8 and 1 score had you just kicked the XP earlier.

You're wrong. Sorry.

It's not even that....Early 3rd quarter is waaaaay to early to start chasing points.

PAT = Down 14-13...Hold the oppo to a FG + score a TD = 20-17 where another oppo FG only ties.

Missed 2PC = 14-12 and then 19-17 in the above scenario where a late FG beats you.

That's Vine for you though.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by HAT

It's not even that....Early 3rd quarter is waaaaay to early to start chasing points.

PAT = Down 14-13...Hold the oppo to a FG + score a TD = 20-17 where another oppo FG only ties.

Missed 2PC = 14-12 and then 19-17 in the above scenario where a late FG beats you.

That's Vine for you though.

go for two only when you have to.


also

kick it early, go for it late

[winstoncup bronco]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Come on Bears hold them off. Go Indy.

I see where your priorities are.

[Punisher]

Go Colts Go

[Vine]

Originally Posted by Broncobiv

Honestly, I doubt such a study even exists. There isn't enough data due to the fact that it is so rare for a team to go for 2 before the 4th quarter (unless they're down by like 4 TD). That in itself is proof that kicking the XP is the right call.

You never know what is going to happen later in the game score-wise, whether it be FG's or TD's, and by which team. Take the guaranteed points and go for 2 only when necessary. I guess it's just coincidence that "my opinion" just happens to be shared by virtually every football coach in existence?

http://www.theredzone.org/Features/T...sionChart.aspx

No where on that chart does it say "wait for 4th quarter" to start following chart.

In my experiences of watching football, I would guesstimate that teams go for 2 in about 1/2 the pre-4th quarter situations as the Texans faced earlier in the game. Certainly not close to the "rare" instance, or "virtually" every coach as you claim kicks that extra point.

[Vine]

Originally Posted by HAT

It's not even that....Early 3rd quarter is waaaaay to early to start chasing points.

PAT = Down 14-13...Hold the oppo to a FG + score a TD = 20-17 where another oppo FG only ties.

Missed 2PC = 14-12 and then 19-17 in the above scenario where a late FG beats you.

That's Vine for you though.

, aren't you the dumbass who was inquiring of Denver's scenario of obtaining the #1 seed?

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by winstoncup bronco

I see where your priorities are.

I think he does it more to get reactions!