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Old 12-29-2012, 08:52 PM   #51
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:05 PM   #52
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If JDR goes we should just give up and name Champ defensive coordinator.

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Old 12-29-2012, 09:05 PM   #53
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if he goes to KC or SD he is dead to me.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:17 PM   #54
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If they both leave then we'll replace them. Just as JDR was a HC that was fired and now doing well as a coordinator, we can do the same again. some of the HC's going to be fired are in that same category. I mean, there is a reason why they become a HC in the 1st place. Usually they were a coordinator somewhere and did very well.

And while alot of praise should go to the coordinators in Denver, don't forget the players on the field are still what's most important. I think earlier this year Von Miller was asked what was different with JDR as the coordinator compared to last year and he said not that much, he just made us believe how special we could be. Don't know if that's an exact quote but I know it's pretty darn close.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:34 PM   #55
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The more the broncos coaches get promotions with other teams the better it is for the broncos. The good reputation of the team means good coaches will want to come to Denver and work hard to get a promotion.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:47 PM   #56
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If they both leave then we'll replace them. Just as JDR was a HC that was fired and now doing well as a coordinator, we can do the same again. some of the HC's going to be fired are in that same category. I mean, there is a reason why they become a HC in the 1st place. Usually they were a coordinator somewhere and did very well.

And while alot of praise should go to the coordinators in Denver, don't forget the players on the field are still what's most important. I think earlier this year Von Miller was asked what was different with JDR as the coordinator compared to last year and he said not that much, he just made us believe how special we could be. Don't know if that's an exact quote but I know it's pretty darn close.
Exactly! We got what every franchise wants a great football mind at the top. Elway found these coaches and he will find their replacements if they leave.
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Not sure, but I think it had something to do with some "classless" thing Baja claims Fox and Elway pulled during the offseason.....
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:05 PM   #58
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If JDR goes we should just give up and name Champ defensive coordinator.

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Watch him retire the following year.
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Not sure, but I think it had something to do with some "classless" thing Baja claims Fox and Elway pulled during the offseason.....
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:26 AM   #60
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Watch SD hire Jack Del Rio. The rest of the division will do anything possible to try and get in on whatever is working so well in Denver. Still the truth is that great players make coaches look good. if we truly have great players now we can hire another good defensive coach and keep on chugging. Rex Ryan anyone? j/k but you never know.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:36 AM   #61
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Also though those coaches should be watching film in the bye weeks like you know Bill Belli**** is doing. If I was an owner when i hired coaches i would tell them before hand no interviewing until after Broncos season is over. Then maybe pay them a tad more for the trouble.
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I just don't want JDR to go, McCoy can leave if he wants.
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:23 AM   #63
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I don't necessarily think it's a fait accompli that JDR is gone.

Ironically, I think I would be more worried if he already wasn't a head coach. This is only his first year coming off 8 years of overall mediocrity in JAX at best. What rebuilding team would want that? His prowess with defensive personnel is nothing new. If he was a younger, up and coming guy looking for a chance, I'd be more worried.

I'm sure someday he will get another chance, but I just don't believe that time is now.
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McCoy will get his shot. del rio could leave but i think he wants to pick a good team(no team where he has to rebuild the whole organisation). so if there is not the right offer out there we still could have a chance to keep him.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:13 AM   #65
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The problem with being in "win now" mode is that we don't have the luxury of developing a younger defensive coordinator. So I think that we are always going to have this problem. Although it would be nice to find an up-and-coming talent and have him stick around into Brock's years. I don't know if that is realistic, though.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #66
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Browns looking for fresh start


Cleveland is expected to make a major run at a college coach such as Oregons Chip Kelly or Penn States Bill O'Brien or search for a bright young offensive NFL mind.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/87...ch-sources-say
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If McCoy leaves (and this is probably a lock that he will leave) then I'd love for the Broncos to pick up Norv Turner and not Tom Moore. As for JDR leaving, I think he's gone if its to a solid franchise that isn't in a total rebuild. So it has to be to a team that has a good QB in place and this is why Sandy Eggo will attract many coaches. Say what you want about SD but Rivers is a franchise QB and that will make all the difference in the world to the next coach, bank on it.
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JDR isn't going anywhere in 2013. He's biding his time until Kiffin gets fired at USC.

That's his next gig.....book it.
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If McCoy leaves (and this is probably a lock that he will leave) then I'd love for the Broncos to pick up Norv Turner and not Tom Moore. As for JDR leaving, I think he's gone if its to a solid franchise that isn't in a total rebuild. So it has to be to a team that has a good QB in place and this is why Sandy Eggo will attract many coaches. Say what you want about SD but Rivers is a franchise QB and that will make all the difference in the world to the next coach, bank on it.
Normally teams that hire a JDR is a team that had a offensive minded coach this year

SD and who else had a offensive minded coach?

I agree on Norval. He's the offensive equal of Wade Phillips. Damn good OC
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JDR isn't going anywhere in 2013. He's biding his time until Kiffin gets fired at USC.

That's his next gig.....book it.
this makes a lot of sense. I'd much rather be the HC of a major college program than an NFL team. Same pay, way less stress. I hope you are correct and JDR sticks around until Kiffin gets the boot.

wait, didn't USC just fire their HC?
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Maybe we should let Fox go and hire McCoy as the Broncos head coach.
Gross. McCoy is overrated.
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Gross. McCoy is overrated.
Fox is a very likable guy and was a perfect selection by Elway after the chaos left behind by McD's abrupt departure. The soothing player's coach Fox has righted the ship and the locker room made whole. When a conversation comes up about brilliant innovative HCs I doubt Fox's name will be mentioned.

It might be time to consider what kind of head coach Denver needs going forward. I am not saying Fox should be fired but I would want Elway to at least weigh the merits of moving McCoy to the top spot. I doubt this scenario would happen but when it comes to making the Broncos better everything must be considered and I'll bet you Elway has at least thought about this.
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Fox is a very likable guy and was a perfect selection by Elway after the chaos left behind by McD's abrupt departure. The soothing player's coach Fox has righted the ship and the locker room made whole. When a conversation comes up about brilliant innovative HCs I doubt Fox's name will be mentioned.

It might be time to consider what kind of head coach Denver needs going forward. I am not saying Fox should be fired but I would want Elway to at least weigh the merits of moving McCoy to the top spot. I doubt this scenario would happen but when it comes to making the Broncos better everything must be considered and I'll bet you Elway has at least thought about this.
I see your point, but who of these "Brilliant innovative HCs" is storming the top ranks of the NFL right now?
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I see your point, but who of these "Brilliant innovative HCs" is storming the top ranks of the NFL right now?
Many think McCoy is one.

The point of my first post that you quoted was is it time to consider offering McCoy the top spot as a way to not lose him.
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Fox is a very likable guy and was a perfect selection by Elway after the chaos left behind by McD's abrupt departure. The soothing player's coach Fox has righted the ship and the locker room made whole. When a conversation comes up about brilliant innovative HCs I doubt Fox's name will be mentioned.

It might be time to consider what kind of head coach Denver needs going forward. I am not saying Fox should be fired but I would want Elway to at least weigh the merits of moving McCoy to the top spot. I doubt this scenario would happen but when it comes to making the Broncos better everything must be considered and I'll bet you Elway has at least thought about this.
Fox isn't going anywhere any time soon. Maybe after Manning retires Fox may go but that is a few years away. I love it how many posters here poo-poo the Fox hire when he's proven to be one of the better HCs over the last 10-15 years. He got to the SB with Jake Delhomme as his QB and only lost by a field goal to a team that video taped the Panther's walk thru before the game.

I've supported the Fox hire from day 1, and he's not dissappointed me. I think Elway also know's Fox's value to this franchise and he will not look to replace Fox until the Broncos either have a few bad seasons in a row or Fox retires.
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