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Old 12-27-2012, 05:15 PM   #251
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Yeah McElroy practiced so well he was kept inactive 90% of the time.
However bad McElroy practiced > however bad tebow practiced

McElroy out with a concussion. Next man up? Sanchez. Haha
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:03 PM   #252
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All you Tebow fans are just poeple behind a computer screen who act like you guys know more than NFL coaches

All the coaches Tebow has had ALL say he isn't a good QB

If Tebow were an NFL caliber QB he would be playing QB

Tebow is the Punt Protector

So if he were as good as you all say wouldn't he be playing QB?
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Is it feasible to lock all tebow threads? Just wondering.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:31 PM   #254
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So anyone that doesn't agree with you is a retard. Sounds like a bitter liberal with no real direction. Keep chasing the dream that he's gonna be as good as all these other QBs hes being compared to in the early stages of their careers.
Wow! Now I'm a liberal? Read my posts sometimes.... So that is yet another loss for you....step it up ok? You play like sanchez.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:34 PM   #255
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Exhibit B. Just last March (this offseason), Rex and Co signed Mark Sanchez to a 5-year $60 million/$20 guaranteed contract.

If the shoe fits? OMG... Rex is so stupid.
Rex is smarter than you and I. we just don't know how good sanchez really is. I mean all we see is the games...not the practices. What do we know?
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:36 PM   #256
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All you Tebow fans are just poeple behind a computer screen who act like you guys know more than NFL coaches

All the coaches Tebow has had ALL say he isn't a good QB

If Tebow were an NFL caliber QB he would be playing QB

Tebow is the Punt Protector

So if he were as good as you all say wouldn't he be playing QB?
So you think sanchez is good by your logic. Thank god im stupid. Your smartness is dumber than my dumbness.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:37 PM   #257
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Is it feasible to lock all tebow threads? Just wondering.
Once you retards stop acting stupid, they will die.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:45 PM   #258
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So you think sanchez is good by your logic. Thank god im stupid. Your smartness is dumber than my dumbness.
Can it be possible that all 3 QBs SUCK?
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:48 PM   #259
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Wow! Now I'm a liberal? Read my posts sometimes.... So that is yet another loss for you....step it up ok? You play like sanchez.
Usually I just glance over them and not pay attention. Sorta like the ugly chick that sits at the end of the bar.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:55 PM   #260
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For every Peyton Manning who overcame early career struggles, there are 50 Brady Quinn's or Akili Smith's who do not. You frame the above argument and similar ones (i.e. Eli Manning overcoming a 48% completion as a rookie) as if it's the normal course of things for significant improvement to follow. It isn't. The Peyton's and Eli's are the exceptions, not the rule.
Peyton did not struggle his first year. He had growing pains and he threw a lot of ints but he also threw a lot of TD passes. He was on a horrible team and ANYONE who saw him play his rookie year in 1998 knew he was going to be a star. Tebow has never done that. Outside of Skip Bayless no one is saying Tebow is going to be a star, in fact this could be his last year in the NFL depending on what Jacksonville is going to do.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:01 PM   #261
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Peyton did not struggle his first year. He had growing pains and he threw a lot of ints but he also threw a lot of TD passes. He was on a horrible team and ANYONE who saw him play his rookie year in 1998 knew he was going to be a star. Tebow has never done that. Outside of Skip Bayless no one is saying Tebow is going to be a star, in fact this could be his last year in the NFL depending on what Jacksonville is going to do.
Jags better dump every QB they have because Tebow will not beat them in camp and some will say that just isn't fair for poor Tebow.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:10 PM   #262
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I wonder if Tebow just doesn't pack it in after this year and move on to politics or something he doesn't have to be good at to stay in the public eye.

I have heard a rumor through a friend of a friend of Howard Griffifth (of all people) that Rex promised Scanchez that he would not start Tebow over him, apparently Mark was all butt hurt for a couple days after they made the trade. I bet Rex is not playing him over because 1) he wants to keep his word and 2) Tebow can't beat out McElroy.

I am sure there may be one more team out there that is desperate enough to take a chance on Timmy but I wonder if after this season he doesn't just decide to move on.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:15 PM   #263
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So you think sanchez is good by your logic. Thank god im stupid. Your smartness is dumber than my dumbness.
How did you come up with that? I never even mentioned Sancheez you really must be stupid
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:57 PM   #264
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Can it be possible that all 3 QBs SUCK?
Tebow has always been a square peg that's trying to fit into a round hole (his skill set does not match what's required for the job). Some of us recognize that the odds are he's simply never going to fit in as a QB in the NFL. Others want to offer every explanation in the book... from "intentional sabotage of his career by coaches whose jobs also depend upon winning" to "religious persecution".. anything except to say "at some point early in his football-playing days, some coach should have taken the time to instruct him in basic QB mechanics". The fact is that the criticism would be silenced if he could consistently put the football where it has to be to complete a pass. But he can't and so he's just another (very high profile) wannabe who lacks the skills for the position he aspires to.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:32 PM   #265
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All you Tebow fans are just poeple behind a computer screen who act like you guys know more than NFL coaches

All the coaches Tebow has had ALL say he isn't a good QB

If Tebow were an NFL caliber QB he would be playing QB

Tebow is the Punt Protector

So if he were as good as you all say wouldn't he be playing QB?
This begs the question: Why the effffffffffffffffffff did McDumba$$ draft Teebs in the first round (or any round BTW) any way?
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:39 PM   #266
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Peyton did not struggle his first year. He had growing pains and he threw a lot of ints but he also threw a lot of TD passes. He was on a horrible team and ANYONE who saw him play his rookie year in 1998 knew he was going to be a star. Tebow has never done that. Outside of Skip Bayless no one is saying Tebow is going to be a star, in fact this could be his last year in the NFL depending on what Jacksonville is going to do.
Yeah that 71 passer rating en route to 3-13 really lit the league on fire.

Let's travel back...

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...eyton-manning/

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Old 12-27-2012, 11:39 PM   #267
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Yeah that 71 passer rating en route to 3-13 really lit the league on fire.

Let's travel back...

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...eyton-manning/

You missed the part where he said if you watched Peyton, you could tell. Kinda like when most of watch Teebs, we can tell too. It isnt that hard.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:30 AM   #268
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I wonder if Tebow just doesn't pack it in after this year and move on to politics or something he doesn't have to be good at to stay in the public eye.

I have heard a rumor through a friend of a friend of Howard Griffifth (of all people) that Rex promised Scanchez that he would not start Tebow over him, apparently Mark was all butt hurt for a couple days after they made the trade. I bet Rex is not playing him over because 1) he wants to keep his word and 2) Tebow can't beat out McElroy.

I am sure there may be one more team out there that is desperate enough to take a chance on Timmy but I wonder if after this season he doesn't just decide to move on.
Tebow quit football? 0 percent chance. Absolute 0 % chance he quits and walks away.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:14 AM   #269
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Tebow quit football? 0 percent chance. Absolute 0 % chance he quits and walks away.
yeah but if the Jagwads don't want him there will be a 100% chance he is not in the NFL next year. He is poison and everyone outside of Jacksonville knows it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:45 AM   #270
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Yeah that 71 passer rating en route to 3-13 really lit the league on fire.

Let's travel back...

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...eyton-manning/

That meant he had more passing yards that year than John Elway did, he was 450 yards shy of matching Steve Young. He was top 10 in yards, TDs in the league and had more yards and more TDs per game than Troy Aikman.

He set almost every important record by a rookie QB playing for a team that was by a wide margin the worst in the league. They allowed the most yards, most 1st downs, 2nd most points, created the 2nd fewest turnovers, had the 5th fewest rushing yards, the 2nd fewest rushing TDs.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:11 AM   #271
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Yeah that 71 passer rating en route to 3-13 really lit the league on fire.

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http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...eyton-manning/

ooooooooo passer rating eh......neat o
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:35 AM   #272
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yeah but if the Jagwads don't want him there will be a 100% chance he is not in the NFL next year. He is poison and everyone outside of Jacksonville knows it.
Eight months ago, there were two teams in the entire league that were willing to give up anything to acquire Tebow... now, he's "demanding" to be released by the one he chose. If he goes to J-ville, that will be his last stop in the NFL 'cause he'll either gain the skill set he needs to play QB... or no other team in the league will have any interest whatsoever in him (as a quarterback).
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:16 AM   #273
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ooooooooo passer rating eh......neat o
OK dude. How about TD%.
Or int %
Or yards per attempt?

You've already thrown out overall passer rating. In which statistical category did the average 1998 PFM throw outperform the average Tim Tebow throw through 16 starts?
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:19 AM   #274
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Yeah McElroy practiced so well he was kept inactive 90% of the time.
This discussion isn't about McElroy or how well he does or does not practice;but it's noteworthy that the only time I've ever seen the "he just doesn't perform well in practice but deserves a starting job anyway" argument raised, the comment (without exception) has involved the proper noun "Tebow". Same is true of the argument "but...but... he didn't get enough reps with the first team. Other backup QBs are expected to perform adequately if needed regardless of the "reps-with-the-first-team-in-practice-count".

Oh, and... you're not seriously trying to contend that McElroy's elevation to starter last week was based on anything other than Ryan trying to send Sanchez a message (to quit sucking), are you?
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That meant he had more passing yards that year than John Elway did, he was 450 yards shy of matching Steve Young. He was top 10 in yards, TDs in the league and had more yards and more TDs per game than Troy Aikman.

He set almost every important record by a rookie QB playing for a team that was by a wide margin the worst in the league. They allowed the most yards, most 1st downs, 2nd most points, created the 2nd fewest turnovers, had the 5th fewest rushing yards, the 2nd fewest rushing TDs.
Long story short he threw the ball a **** ton. But per throw was less effective than the worst QB in the history of the game (I'm told)

It takes playing time to develop in the NFL.
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