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Old 12-27-2012, 05:07 PM   #26
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Elway + Manning ownership
That's what I was going to say.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:19 PM   #27
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the only issue with that is the clause in the contract is thought to carry over to his family at the time of his death.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:50 PM   #28
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it would cost a minimum of one billion dollars to purchase the Broncos. Elway is not a billionaire. he would need a group of random, faceless investors to front most of the cash.
The headlines all over the sports world this spring were, "Magic Johnson buys the Dodgers!"

The sale price ended up being a little over $2 billion. As it turns out, Magic Johnson wrote a check for $50 million of that.

If Elway wanted to buy the Broncos, I guarantee you he would be able to put together the investors. And what's more, I would be really surprised if they were unwilling to let him take over the roll of CEO. His roll would then be similar to the one Al Davis had with the Raiders over the past four decades.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:16 PM   #29
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The headlines all over the sports world this spring were, "Magic Johnson buys the Dodgers!"

The sale price ended up being a little over $2 billion. As it turns out, Magic Johnson wrote a check for $50 million of that.

If Elway wanted to buy the Broncos, I guarantee you he would be able to put together the investors. And what's more, I would be really surprised if they were unwilling to let him take over the roll of CEO. His roll would then be similar to the one Al Davis had with the Raiders over the past four decades.
i know what you were trying to say. but this is about as bad an example as you could have used.
Davis was a senile fool in the last 10-15 years of his Raiders ownership tenure.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:31 PM   #30
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To be honest, I have no idea if this has been posted, and I am far to lazy to research at this point in my holiday drunken debauchery. So, I have always thought that Elway, post career, was angling for [Broncos] ownership at some point and given Bowlen's relationship with Elway, my question to you all is: what is the likelihood that this becomes reality?

Discuss.
I hate it when people start a thread with a statement or a question, then state "discuss". It's so pretentious.

Discuss.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:37 PM   #31
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i know what you were trying to say. but this is about as bad an example as you could have used.
Davis was a senile fool in the last 10-15 years of his Raiders ownership tenure.
Right, but the example works, from a structural perspective. He started with a minority interest, and has acquired and sold various pieces over the years. But when you ask any sports fan who owns the Raiders, they will answer, "Al Davis." Now, they might answer, "That creepy Albino dude with the bowl haircut" - but I digress.

And, in fairness, "John Elway" to a lifetime Raiders fan is probably just as dirty a term as "Al Davis" is to us.

But, in defense of us, we have this image to put to the name:

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FYI - by comparison, Mark Davis is a male supermodel.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:44 PM   #33
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That his heart stopped?
That never stopped Al Davis
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #34
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FYI - by comparison, Mark Davis is a male supermodel.

I think this guy might be the missing link.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:05 PM   #35
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Nope. Sold those.
Elway still owns a lot of auto dealerships, bought a few more just last year.

Depending on how extended he is with all his business interests, if he sold them he could put together cash enough to be the majority owner. If his businesses are mostly owned by the bank that would be a show stopper. We'll see, I've been expecting Elway to be majority owner of the Broncs at some point.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #36
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Derek Wolfe is going to buy it. That brown paper bag money.
Meth money.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:12 PM   #37
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i know what you were trying to say. but this is about as bad an example as you could have used.
Davis was a senile fool in the last 10-15 years of his Raiders ownership tenure.
Oh yeah, I cringed when I read that.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #38
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Your statement is false, good sir!
No, not really.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ric...way-net-worth/

John's net worth is only 45 million. Broncos are worth over a billion dollars.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:28 PM   #40
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http://celebnetworth.org/john-elway-net-worth-salary

Seems he is worth 50 million by the most current estimate.

This was last updated on May 8th.
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Still, to control the franchise Elway will need to come up with the cash to buy 30 percent of it, along with a coalition of investors to purchase the rest. With NFL team values shooting to $1 billion and beyond, it could be a challenge for Elway to come up with $300 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-has-the-cash/
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:35 PM   #42
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I wonder how much Elway's x-wife is worth??

He sold those dealerships to Wayne Huizenga for close to $100m. He probably made another $100m during his career. Not to mention endorsement deals.

So, where did the money go?

1. Bad investment deals
2. His X got 1/2 or more
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #43
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I wonder how much Elway's x-wife is worth??

He sold those dealerships to Wayne Huizenga for close to $100m. He probably made another $100m during his career. Not to mention endorsement deals.

So, where did the money go?

1. Bad investment deals
2. His X got 1/2 or more
What makes you think he doesn't still have it?

I know he had one deal go bad - the sports site he did with Michael Jordan and Wayne Gretzky. He did it when the Internet was absolutely blowing up. But I never got the sense that he had all that much into it. I want to say that I remember it being less than $5 million, but I could be wrong. Otherwise, I've never heard of him having lost money.
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Right, but the example works, from a structural perspective. He started with a minority interest, and has acquired and sold various pieces over the years. But when you ask any sports fan who owns the Raiders, they will answer, "Al Davis." Now, they might answer, "That creepy Albino dude with the bowl haircut" - but I digress.

And, in fairness, "John Elway" to a lifetime Raiders fan is probably just as dirty a term as "Al Davis" is to us.

But, in defense of us, we have this image to put to the name:

you should have stated that first lol. cause again i know what you meant but seeing it without being qualified evokes Jerry Jones and Al Davis failures of late rather than past glory.
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Still, to control the franchise Elway will need to come up with the cash to buy 30 percent of it, along with a coalition of investors to purchase the rest. With NFL team values shooting to $1 billion and beyond, it could be a challenge for Elway to come up with $300 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-has-the-cash/
What do you base that on?
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Still, to control the franchise Elway will need to come up with the cash to buy 30 percent of it, along with a coalition of investors to purchase the rest. With NFL team values shooting to $1 billion and beyond, it could be a challenge for Elway to come up with $300 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-has-the-cash/
Never mind. I clicked on the link (duh). I don't think that's true, though. It all depends on who you partner with. It's no different than any business. The expectations lie with the investors. I would think, given the ridiculous inflation when it comes to the prices of these teams, that lots of potential silent investors might be interested in owning a team, but not very interested in actually running it. For a partner like Elway, they might want to make sure he has significant skin in the game to partner with him - but how much skin is relative.

Using the Magic Johnson scenario with the Dodgers, he ended up putting in about 2 1/2 percent.
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What do you base that on?
that's what the article says, he posted a snippet of it.
though if i'm not mistaken you have to plunk down a certain amount of cash to assume ownership. a good chunk of most sale prices is assuming debt(Khan took on 350 mil in debt to finance part of the sale of the Jags which was around 760 mil)
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http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ric...way-net-worth/

John's net worth is only 45 million. Broncos are worth over a billion dollars.
that is a kick ass site, thanks
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the only issue with that is the clause in the contract is thought to carry over to his family at the time of his death.
True, but the thought that they would get as pissy as Kaiser did, who ultimately lost his suit against Bowlen, by the way, is unlikely. They were never direct owners and as I understand are pretty "Canadian" up there and their interest in the Broncos is pretty small beyond the financial aspect.

The other thing is Bowlen could begin to sell more of his shares of the franchise over to Elway - especially if no one in the family wants to run things. If Elway could secure 20% of the team in the next decade, it wouldn't be hard to get a group together to buy the rest.
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True, but the thought that they would get as pissy as Kaiser did, who ultimately lost his suit against Bowlen, by the way, is unlikely. They were never direct owners and as I understand are pretty "Canadian" up there and their interest in the Broncos is pretty small beyond the financial aspect.

The other thing is Bowlen could begin to sell more of his shares of the franchise over to Elway - especially if no one in the family wants to run things. If Elway could secure 20% of the team in the next decade, it wouldn't be hard to get a group together to buy the rest.
very true. honestly wouldn't mind Elway as owner and Peyton as executive VP.
that would be hella sweet and the recruiting potential would be insane.
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