Yay It's Chiefs week.

[peacepipe]

We're 15 1/2 point favorites,if anyone is betting on the game.

[TheReverend]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

All ya'll need to do is beat us and we're gonna get us a franchise QB.

Thanks!

Chiefs will rule the AFC West for 15 years.

... In THIS draft?

Who's the 'franchise QB'? This reminds me of the Jamarcus/Quinn draft

[oubronco]

[oubronco]

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by Rolandftw

Tannehill's numbers were very good. Better then Tyler Wilson this year. Both teams didn't have that much talent around them, at least defensively. So guess it comes down to whether or not, team performance is a huge judge of whether someone will be good at the next level.

Geno had good games against Maryland and OU. But was awful against KSU, TTU, TCU. But West Virginia had their own problems this year, too. His ability to go through his progressions are a major concern to me, but it wouldn't deter me from drafting him either. As you said, there isn't really a #1 type pick at any position, so they might as well take a shot on what spot they need the most. If it doesn't pan out, they can do another go at it 3 seasons from now.

I wasn't really a fan of the Brock pick, but you can certainly make the argument had he slightly improved as a senior that he could be a first round pick in this year's draft class. There's also not any pressure for him to produce over the next couple seasons most likely.

Well of course Tannehill's numbers were better than Wilson's. He had talent everywhere at A&M while Wilson had nothing but Cobi Hamilton at Arkansas.

That's why I love Wilson as a prospect. He was in the worst position a college QB could be in and he still looked very good and was never rattled. If he can handle the worst adversity in college then he should be more than prepared for the NFL.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by TheReverend

... In THIS draft?

Who's the 'franchise QB'? This reminds me of the Jamarcus/Quinn draft

Seriously. Is anyone scared of Geno Smith?

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

the suck is strong with the chiefs

[FearLanier]

If one learns about Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson, than you will easily see that they are hands down better prospects than Quinn/Russell.

Especially from the intangibles standpoint.

[Raidersbane]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

If one learns about Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson, than you will easily see that they are hands down better prospects than Quinn/Russell.

Especially from the intangibles standpoint.

Wishful thinking is a hell of a drug!

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

well if the chiefs think the Qbs in this draft are the next coming of Luck RgIII Elway Montana Young Manning ect let them think it .
we could use a bye week and a couple of preseason like games

[Tombstone RJ]

Kc will manage to screw this draft up no matter what, just like 1983.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

Signing a 33 year old retread who has never been that good throwing the ball over a Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson is the worst move we could possibly make.

I would rather have Alex Smith than Vick if we had to sign a FA QB.

whatever

[KipCorrington25]

Originally Posted by Raidersbane

Wishful thinking is a hell of a drug!

It's KC fans you are talking about so that drug you mention is meth.

[FearLanier]

Chiefs fans don't think Geno or Wilson is the next RG3/Luck (well maybe Bob).

They are however not JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn. I would easily take Geno Smith over a lot of the QB's in the normal classes over the last few years.
Easily.

[Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

Chiefs fans don't think Geno or Wilson is the next RG3/Luck (well maybe Bob).

They are however not JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn. I would easily take Geno Smith over a lot of the QB's in the normal classes over the last few years.
Easily.

You knock JaMarcus Russell like he was some questionable prospect but he was perhaps the most physically unique QB at time he was drafted. 6-foot-6, 260 pounds and could chuck the football 80 yards. He had an outstanding pro day too. Russell also had the performance vs. high level of competition in his favor.

In hindsight it's easy to bury him now.

Quinn dropped to No. 22 so he's not even worthy of comparison to a potential QB taken with the No.1 overall selection.

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!

You knock JaMarcus Russell like he was some questionable prospect but he was perhaps the most physically unique QB at time he was drafted. 6-foot-6, 260 pounds and could chuck the football 80 yards. He had an outstanding pro day too. Russell also had the performance vs. high level of competition in his favor.

In hindsight it's easy to bury him now.

Quinn dropped to No. 22 so he's not even worthy of comparison to a potential QB taken with the No.1 overall selection.

I stopped caring about how physically gifted QB's were after the Kyle Boller threw 80 yards on his knees.

I think NFL fans have learned that intangibles is what you look for in a QB more than physical strengths.

[Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

I stopped caring about how physically gifted QB's were after the Kyle Boller threw 80 yards on his knees.

I think NFL fans have learned that intangibles is what you look for in a QB more than physical strengths.

Outside of a rare Drew Brees, the great ones have the combination of physical traits and intangibles.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

I stopped caring about how physically gifted QB's were after the Kyle Boller threw 80 yards on his knees.

I think NFL fans have learned that intangibles is what you look for in a QB more than physical strengths.

Question would you rather get Kyle and trade for Cousins or just draft Geno?

[Rolandftw]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

If one learns about Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson, than you will easily see that they are hands down better prospects than Quinn/Russell.

Especially from the intangibles standpoint.

Better then Quinn? yeah, easily. But Russell's idiocy was the main thing that held him back.

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!

Outside of a rare Drew Brees, the great ones have the combination of physical traits and intangibles.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson are prime examples of the intangibles. Leadership, hard work, football IQ. That's what really makes them successful more than their arm strength or body build.

That's why I like Geno and Wilson. They are both extremely hard workers and have a very good football IQ.

I like Wilson's leadership more than Geno's though. That's the difference between them IMO.

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Question would you rather get Kyle and trade for Cousins or just draft Geno?

I would rather get Kyle Shannahan and Geno Smith/Tyler Wilson tbh. Both ruys seem to fit his sytem well.

[Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!]

Originally Posted by FearLanier

I like Wilson's leadership more than Geno's though. That's the difference between them IMO.

I like Wilson's leadership, too. I hope the Queefs get him.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/s...Id=8&year=2012

[Kaylore]

How does anyone know it isn't a Russell/Quinn draft?

At the time both were considered solid QB picks. Russell was a physically gifted passer, and Quinn was like a more polished Aaron Rogers (before he was Aaron Rogers). In fact both Quinn and Rogers fell in the draft the same way, but Rogers had "it" and Quinn didn't.

It's a total crap shoot.

Here's a list of first overall QB's taken in the last 20 years.

Bolded are the ones who played in a spread offense.

Drew Bledsoe
Peyton Manning
Tim Couch
Michael Vick
David Carr
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Jamarcus Russell
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
Andrew Luck

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by Pass is...IN-COM-PLETE!

I like Wilson's leadership, too. I hope the Queefs get him.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/s...Id=8&year=2012

Because of his teams record?

Ken Dorsey, Tim Tebow, Vince Young, Jason White, Matt Leinart, Danny Wuerffel, Eric Crouch.

All those QB's won a ton of college games. How did their NFL careers turn out?

[FearLanier]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

How does anyone know it isn't a Russell/Quinn draft?

At the time both were considered solid QB picks. Russell was a physically gifted passer, and Quinn was like a more polished Aaron Rogers (before he was Aaron Rogers). In fact both Quinn and Rogers fell in the draft the same way, but Rogers had "it" and Quinn didn't.

It's a total crap shoot.

Here's a list of first overall QB's taken in the last 20 years.

Bolded are the ones who played in a spread offense.

Drew Bledsoe
Peyton Manning
Tim Couch
Michael Vick
David Carr
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Jamarcus Russell
Matthew Stafford
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
Andrew Luck

I agree completely that nobody knows, that's why I think it's a hilarious when people think this QB class sucks simply because Kiper/McShay says they suck. Those guys are still doing damage control on their predictions (Russell Wilson wouldn't be a starter/Ricky Stanzi was best QB prospect of 2011 class).

Geno played in more of a pro style offense for 1 year and looked great, and that was his first year starting in college. That alone should give him some credibility because he has proven he isn't simply a spread QB.