Elvis Dumervil has 11 sacks

[SouthStndJunkie]

Originally Posted by errand

that was my point.....but feel free to act like I said something I didn't.

I thought you were framing your statement as a negative connotation, as if 23% wasn't enough.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by ZONA

You assume most people on the mane knew about it. What 10 people said they've been there before. How many thousands of members are on the mane. You're going to say that most of then knew about it. That's really sticking your neck out.

And I disagree with your disagreement. I said Doom has been good. I don't think he's been SPECIAL. He had 17 sacks in 2009. Doom is a sack specialist, that's what he's paid alot of money to do. Even if he gets 1 more sack next week, 12 sacks is not enough to justify that contract. He needs more. Once again, this is not saying Doom is not good, he's been good, but it's my opinion he's not been as special as he was in 2009. That's the Doom I'd like to see.

Agreed on both points.....Doom needs to find another gear for the playoffs and I DID NOT KNOW OF THAT WEBSITE.........

[errand]

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

I thought you were framing your statement as a negative connotation, as if 23% wasn't enough.

Oh Ok...Nope was showing Zona that Doom is almost 1/4 of our pass rush...

[maher_tyler]

I remember before we had Doom we would give a left nut for a guy that could get us 10+ sacks. Now he gets 11 and it's not enough. Only on the Mane.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by maher_tyler

I remember before we had Doom we would give a left nut for a guy that could get us 10+ sacks. Now he gets 11 and it's not enough. Only on the Mane.

I'm sure these idiots long for the good old days like back in 2005 when we had 28 total team sacks and we had a guy with 4 sacks for a team high.

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by Action

No haven't you heard?

Nice work there tool - why don't you quote all of what I said instead of taking snipet and trying to make it look like I said something entirely different then I did. You're a ****in tool.

For the last F'n time. I said Doom has been GOOD but not SPECIAL. So if you're getting your GD panties in a bunch over this then ****in grow up. We all don't have to have the same opinion. Alot of you guys are trying to twist and turn and make it sound like I am saying Doom is a bad player or something. Now I know how some of these celebs feel when the media takes something, changes it, tweaks it, on and on until it looks like something entirely different.

So stick that in the stocking.

[Kaylore]

"Bah humbug."
-Zona

[brncs_fan]

Originally Posted by ZONA

Nice work there tool - why don't you quote all of what I said instead of taking snipet and trying to make it look like I said something entirely different then I did. You're a ****in tool.

For the last F'n time. I said Doom has been GOOD but not SPECIAL. So if you're getting your GD panties in a bunch over this then ****in grow up. We all don't have to have the same opinion. Alot of you guys are trying to twist and turn and make it sound like I am saying Doom is a bad player or something. Now I know how some of these celebs feel when the media takes something, changes it, tweaks it, on and on until it looks like something entirely different.

So stick that in the stocking.

Who is getting upset about this but you? You stated your opinion, one must of us have respectfully disagreed with, and it has led to a civil discussion.

Pot<------->Kettle

[cutthemdown]

The reason hes getting less sacks is hes playing more under control on 1st and 2nd downs IMO. IMO Doom setting the edge this yr better then he ever has. Seriously how many rbs are getting the corner on Dooms side? Sometimes dend wont get a lot of tackles because he is busy setting the edge and preventing the rb from turning the corner.

Doom is playing well IMO.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

The reason hes getting less sacks is hes playing more under control on 1st and 2nd downs IMO. IMO Doom setting the edge this yr better then he ever has. Seriously how many rbs are getting the corner on Dooms side? Sometimes dend wont get a lot of tackles because he is busy setting the edge and preventing the rb from turning the corner.

Doom is playing well IMO.

certainly more than the one trick pony he was in years past..

kudos to the Doomeister..

[baja]

I remember a time around here when we were all fans of the same team and we acted like it. We would discuss our Broncos, have friendly disagreements and joke with one another.It was fun to come here. What happened to that place? I see people here saying things to one another they would never say to someone's face. Have people become so fearful and frustrated that they have to say vile things to one another on a message board because there is no fear of reprise. Really what is it? What happened?

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by baja

I remember a time around here when we were all fans of the same team and we acted like it. We would discuss our Broncos, have friendly disagreements and joke with one another.It was fun to come here. What happened to that place? I see people here saying things to one another they would never say to someone's face. Have people become so fearful and frustrated that they have to say vile things to one another on a message board because there is no fear of reprise. Really what is it? What happened?

Frankly I have never seen that place you spoke of and I've been here off and on since 2003 when I was looking for any bronco info..

would love to see it change.. to a gentler place.. perhaps more quality posters would show up..

[baja]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Frankly I have never seen that place you spoke of and I've been here off and on since 2003 when I was looking for any bronco info..

would love to see it change.. to a gentler place.. perhaps more quality posters would show up..

There were plenty of quality posters and quality people but most have been driven off. There are still some left but it used to be like a good neighborhood bar, that's gone now.

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by baja

I remember a time around here when we were all fans of the same team and we acted like it. We would discuss our Broncos, have friendly disagreements and joke with one another.It was fun to come here. What happened to that place? I see people here saying things to one another they would never say to someone's face. Have people become so fearful and frustrated that they have to say vile things to one another on a message board because there is no fear of reprise. Really what is it? What happened?

Well one tries to be civil and it's fine when people argue against your view, and some people have done so on this thread. That's all good, that's what discussion forums are all about. But then the clowns come and take snipets of what you say and work it to frame it as if you are saying something so very different and then call you idiot. I mean, has it come to this, that on this forum, that a person can say they don't think a player is having a great season but a good season and people want to twist that all around like you're trying to run the player out of town or something. I don't really go after people unless they're being an unreasonable ass towards me. Some people think Doom's having a great year, fine, I think he's having a good year. No harm no foul. But some people on this board that's obviously blasphemy and they get all bent. I get too worked up sometimes I admit but usually not until somebody really gets after me and starts with the total nonsense. Then I feel like caving their face in.....hahaa. I know, I have some anger issues sometimes. I deal with it. But this isn't the first time dudes on this board get pissy with each other and it won't be the last either.

No offense meant. I just had an opinion, tried to express it. My apologies to anybody who thought I was being an ass. Was not my intention. But it is 11pm now and Christmas is tomorrow so Merry Christmas to everybody.

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by baja

There were plenty of quality posters and quality people but most have been driven off. There are still some left but it used to be like a good neighborhood bar, that's gone now.

You're a mockery of a good poster at this point. You're as much a detractor to the general situation as anyone.

[baja]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Frankly I have never seen that place you spoke of and I've been here off and on since 2003 when I was looking for any bronco info..

would love to see it change.. to a gentler place.. perhaps more quality posters would show up..

There were plenty of quality posters and quality people but most have been driven off. There are still some left and a few good new ones have shown up but it used to be like a good neighborhood bar, that's gone now.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by baja

There were plenty of quality posters and quality people but most have been driven off. There are still some left but it used to be like a good neighborhood bar, that's gone now.

As I said every time I came to get info it was the wild wild west. And NO lady saloon keepers to keep it decent.

I live in a place that is cowgirl country probably only 25 bronco fans in the county. So I was desparate to get any facts or news of the broncos.

I know that all the other forums I have been on the same thing happened folks came on and drove the great posters away. Or into not posting just lurking.

Sad for the place. Myself I also have become one of the crowd.
Decided tonight after church that I'm not the guy I want to be. So am going to try and change. Time will tell if I get drug back into the cesspool.

[baja]

Originally Posted by ZONA

Well one tries to be civil and it's fine when people argue against your view, and some people have done so on this thread. That's all good, that's what discussion forums are all about. But then the clowns come and take snipets of what you say and work it to frame it as if you are saying something so very different and then call you idiot. I mean, has it come to this, that on this forum, that a person can say they don't think a player is having a great season but a good season and people want to twist that all around like you're trying to run the player out of town or something. I don't really go after people unless they're being an unreasonable ass towards me. Some people think Doom's having a great year, fine, I think he's having a good year. No harm no foul. But some people on this board that's obviously blasphemy and they get all bent. I get too worked up sometimes I admit but usually not until somebody really gets after me and starts with the total nonsense. Then I feel like caving their face in.....hahaa. I know, I have some anger issues sometimes. I deal with it. But this isn't the first time dudes on this board get pissy with each other and it won't be the last either.

No offense meant. I just had an opinion, tried to express it. My apologies to anybody who thought I was being an ass. Was not my intention. But it is 11pm now and Christmas is tomorrow so Merry Christmas to everybody.

Sorry Zona my post was not directed at you. You are one of the good guys.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by baja

I remember a time around here when we were all fans of the same team and we acted like it. We would discuss our Broncos, have friendly disagreements and joke with one another.It was fun to come here. What happened to that place? I see people here saying things to one another they would never say to someone's face. Have people become so fearful and frustrated that they have to say vile things to one another on a message board because there is no fear of reprise. Really what is it? What happened?

I have noticed that it seems to be the same people over and over.

[maher_tyler]

Originally Posted by ZONA

Well one tries to be civil and it's fine when people argue against your view, and some people have done so on this thread. That's all good, that's what discussion forums are all about. But then the clowns come and take snipets of what you say and work it to frame it as if you are saying something so very different and then call you idiot. I mean, has it come to this, that on this forum, that a person can say they don't think a player is having a great season but a good season and people want to twist that all around like you're trying to run the player out of town or something. I don't really go after people unless they're being an unreasonable ass towards me. Some people think Doom's having a great year, fine, I think he's having a good year. No harm no foul. But some people on this board that's obviously blasphemy and they get all bent. I get too worked up sometimes I admit but usually not until somebody really gets after me and starts with the total nonsense. Then I feel like caving their face in.....hahaa. I know, I have some anger issues sometimes. I deal with it. But this isn't the first time dudes on this board get pissy with each other and it won't be the last either.

No offense meant. I just had an opinion, tried to express it. My apologies to anybody who thought I was being an ass. Was not my intention. But it is 11pm now and Christmas is tomorrow so Merry Christmas to everybody.

I think many would like to know what exactly a special season for an individual player might be? 11 sacks, 6 forced fumbles and multiple QB pressures. All the while doing a much better job stopping the run and more times than not going up against the other teams best pass protector. If he were the only legit pass rusher we had, im sure he would have more sacks. Not to mention he'd prolly be coming from the right side. He is performing at a pro bowl level.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

[Requiem]

All the good posters being driven away is a pretty big myth.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Frankly I have never seen that place you spoke of and I've been here off and on since 2003 when I was looking for any bronco info..

would love to see it change.. to a gentler place.. perhaps more quality posters would show up..

! First you need to start with yourself before expecting others to do the same.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

! First you need to start with yourself before expecting others to do the same.

Teh fActs Is dat you liberool mAroons just don"t get it cuz ou suckin da gubbmint tit. JeSus (not mExican) is the resin for the seaosn. DooDLe.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Requiem

All the good posters being driven away is a pretty big myth.

agree with this. People always remember the past with a silver lining. It was more rough and tumble in 2003 than it is right now. Way more. I'd love to see more analysis, sure. but the people who complain about that the most are the ones that participate the most in angsty threads, and the least in analysis threads...

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

! First you need to start with yourself before expecting others to do the same.

sage words.... ^^^^^^^