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Old 12-24-2012, 04:35 PM   #51
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Hahaha, so funny. You said in your own words that Doom against the run has been good, and his sack totals this year are good. That's exactly what I said but you want to say we don't know what we're talking about.

Any of you think Doom has had a GREAT or FANTASTIC year are just being total homers. He's had a GOOD year and there's nothing wrong with that. Quit being such little b****es just because somebody has a SLIGHTLY different opinion. Good friggen lord you would have thought I said the guy sucks or something they way people react around here.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:43 PM   #52
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Doom is 4th on the all-time broncos list with 63.5 sacks, and will soon pass Pryce (who has 64 sacks).

Still can't believe Simon Fletcher is not in the ring of fame with 97.5 sacks for the broncos. I'd also add Dan Reeves and Shanny in the ring of fame.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:45 PM   #53
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I'd like to point out that Doom is almost always going up against the LT. Who are generally the other teams best pass protector. He went up against a pro bowler in Joe Thomas yesterday and still had a good game. Not many DEs in the league I'd take over Doom.
Most of his sacks were from the other side of the OL. After 58 disappeared.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:47 PM   #54
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I'd like to point out his actual salary is 14 Mil, but he earned himself a bonus this season, so technically he is making more money than Manning but his salary is lower by quite a bit.
Whether it be bonus or salary it was all negoiated into the contract and counts as cap value that was all I was looking at.

I'm not so sure that he might not get even more money in incentives.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:48 PM   #55
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Elvis Dumervil has been playing at a high level.

He missed the 2010 season and then started out slowly in 2011, with 0 sacks in his first 5 games.

Since that, he's had 20.5 sacks in his last 24 games....that ranks up there with many of the elite pass rushers.

Dumervil's notched 37.5 sacks in his last 45 games overall.

If 11 sacks and 6 forced fumbles (tied for the Denver single season record) doesn't impress, I don't know what will....plus, I'm sure he'd have several more sacks had Von Miller not arrived a split second earlier, in what forms the baddest pass rushing duo in the NFL this season.

Dumervil's 11 sacks would make him the team leader for 22 other NFL teams this season.

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Old 12-24-2012, 04:50 PM   #56
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I seem to remember a few sacks he would've gotten but Von beat me but a split-second.

Anyhow the really question is: how many sacks does DUMERVILLE have?
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:54 PM   #57
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There's not much more fun to watch than seeing Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil crashing in the pocket on both sides of the QB and wreaking havoc all day.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:57 PM   #58
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Bottom Line: Denver leads the NFL with 48.0 sacks.

Elvis Dumervil is a major reason for that.
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Most of his sacks were from the other side of the OL. After 58 disappeared.
Most of Dumervil's sacks have been from the left side? I'm almost positive this is not the case.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:09 PM   #60
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He is ranked 8th in the nfl. That puts him ahead of the following guys:

Mario Williams
Charles Johnson
Jared Allen
Anthony Spencer
Justin Houston
Shaun Phillips
Tamba Hali
Chris Long
Robert Mathis

He also has six forced fumbles. He had a good game yesterday. Wanted to give him som props. Miller has become a super star, but Dumervil is still balling.
DOOM has had a great year. His biggest downfall is that he has to compete with Miller for the sacks. If Miller wasn't a Bronco Doom would probably have 4 more sacks.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:12 PM   #61
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Most of Dumervil's sacks have been from the left side? I'm almost positive this is not the case.
I just watched all of Dumervil's sacks outside of 1 and to my surprise, there have been a lot on the left side...more so than I thought. Not all his cases is he getting sacks when Von isn't rushing, but in a lot.

I didn't take a tally but I'd say it's somewhere even (and I didn't see one of the sacks) to maybe half a sack or 1 more sack from the left than right.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:17 PM   #62
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I cannot believe the bashers. Does anyone have QB Pressures. I know many games Miller and Doom had few sacks (Baltimore) but there was constan pressure by VonDoom.

Denver is very lucky to have Doom on the team.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:20 PM   #63
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I cannot believe the bashers. Does anyone have QB Pressures. I know many games Miller and Doom had few sacks (Baltimore) but there was constan pressure by VonDoom.

Denver is very lucky to have Doom on the team.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:13 PM   #64
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Bottom Line: Denver leads the NFL with 48.0 sacks.

Elvis Dumervil is a major reason for that.
His 11 sacks are 23% of the team's total.....
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His 11 sacks are 23% of the team's total.....
Your point is?

Von Miller's 17.5 sacks are only 36% of the team's total.

The combined pressure those 2 put on the QB are the major factor in the sack total.

Even when they don't get to the QB, they flush him up in the pocket, allowing players like Derek Wolfe to clean up.
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Your point is?

Von Miller's 17.5 sacks are only 36% of the team's total.

The combined pressure those 2 put on the QB are the major factor in the sack total.

Even when they don't get to the QB, they flush him up in the pocket, allowing players like Derek Wolfe to clean up.
that was my point.....but feel free to act like I said something I didn't.
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Bottom Line: Denver leads the NFL with 48.0 sacks.

Elvis Dumervil is a major reason for that.
What's amazing is to think Doom only has a little over 1/5 of the teams sacks and he has 11. The Broncos are averaging 3.2 sacks a game.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #68
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ZONA doom often times is a half second late. Not to mention he faces the better pass rushing tackles all game too. Back away from the crack pipe. Hail doom

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Old 12-24-2012, 07:04 PM   #69
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Having Von Miller on the team clearly warps some peoples' perspective. Dumervil has been very good for us all season. And really it should be noted that he generally faces the best pass blocker on the opposing team every play (LT). That's something that Von Miller doesn't have to deal with.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:14 PM   #70
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Elvis gets held more then any pass rusher in the league as well. 11 sacks is pretty damn good
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DOOM has had a great year. His biggest downfall is that he has to compete with Miller for the sacks. If Miller wasn't a Bronco Doom would probably have 4 more sacks.
I dont think you can really say that cause without von gets more chips and attention
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:31 PM   #72
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Your point is?

Von Miller's 17.5 sacks are only 36% of the team's total.

The combined pressure those 2 put on the QB are the major factor in the sack total.

Even when they don't get to the QB, they flush him up in the pocket, allowing players like Derek Wolfe to clean up.
You are right, many of Woodyard and Wolfe's sacks in the middle are in direct relationship to the pressure VonDoom is coming wiht on the edge.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:33 PM   #73
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I dont think you can really say that cause without von gets more chips and attention
and Doom is going against the LT of the other team and he is getting his share of chips as well.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:36 PM   #74
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Wolfe's 5 sacks this season are nice for a DT (he's listed as a DE but I believe most if not all his sacks are from playing DT.

Anyone know where that ranks amongst rookies?

I mean JJ Watt had 5.5 all of last season and he played all 16 games
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:43 PM   #75
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Wolfe's 5 sacks this season are nice for a DT (he's listed as a DE but I believe most if not all his sacks are from playing DT.

Anyone know where that ranks amongst rookies?

I mean JJ Watt had 5.5 all of last season and he played all 16 games
Woodyad and JHarris have also done a good job rushing the QB on blitzes. I pray JDR does not go anywhere. Give Denver one more year Jack.
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