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Old 12-23-2012, 10:12 PM   #1
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It's very, very rare to be in the Top 5 in both offense and defense. Denver is the best team in the league right now. I'm not scared of Houston (who doesnt show up for even semi-big games), or NE (who can't beat us in DEN), or BAL (for obvious reasons) or really anyone. Cincinnati is playing well, but I doubt they could win in DEN. Same for Indy. It's simply a matter of making sure we don't lose the turnover battle. That and injuries are really the only way we can foul this up. Keep your eye on the ball and we'll win the conference.

GB and SEA are playing at a very high level in the NFC, but Denver has done it more consistently and I feel really good right now against any opponent. Just hold on to the ball on offense and stay away from injuries and we should be fine.
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actually as of right now..
defense by yards..
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 Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost
1 	Pittsburgh Steelers 	15 	20.3 	304 	889 	272.9 	4.6 	17.0 	70 	196 	36 	7 	9 	78 	91 	803 	27:51 	16 	7
2 	San Francisco 49ers 	14 	15.6 	218 	897 	293.0 	4.6 	17.9 	57 	190 	30 	13 	24 	54 	84 	679 	30:09 	20 	10
3 	Denver Broncos 	15 	19.1 	286 	967 	302.2 	4.7 	18.6 	62 	202 	31 	7 	18 	39 	118 	919 	29:08 	23 	8
Defense by points.

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Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost
1 	San Francisco 49ers 	14 	15.6 	218 	897 	293.0 	4.6 	17.9 	57 	190 	30 	13 	24 	54 	84 	679 	30:09 	20 	10
2 	Seattle Seahawks 	14 	15.6 	219 	851 	303.9 	5.0 	18.4 	71 	176 	40 	1 	7 	14 	82 	746 	28:60 	24 	12
3 	Chicago Bears 	15 	16.9 	253 	958 	314.9 	4.9 	17.7 	71 	206 	34 	10 	16 	62 	74 	675 	28:52 	32 	17
4 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	18.5 	277 	926 	365.5 	5.9 	18.7 	74 	184 	40 	6 	13 	46 	81 	626 	28:56 	16 	11
5 	Denver Broncos 	15 	19.1 	286 	967 	302.2 	4.7 	18.6 	62 	202 	31 	7 	18 	39 	118 	919 	29:08 	23 	8
offense by yards..
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Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost 	TO
1 	New England Patriots 	15 	35.3 	529 	1,116 	426.9 	5.7 	27.7 	102 	210 	49 	6 	9 	67 	91 	792 	30:37 	13 	7 	+23
2 	Detroit Lions 	15 	23.2 	348 	1,097 	414.2 	5.7 	24.1 	90 	214 	42 	6 	15 	40 	99 	915 	32:30 	21 	13 	-12
3 	New Orleans Saints 	15 	28.2 	423 	1,004 	408.9 	6.1 	22.0 	87 	195 	45 	6 	12 	50 	99 	856 	29:11 	13 	5 	+2
4 	Denver Broncos 	15 	29.5 	443 	1,014 	391.9 	5.8 	23.2 	
89 	201 	44 	3 	5 	60 	95 	775 	30:52 	21 	13 	0

offense by points..

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Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost 	TO
1 	New England Patriots 	15 	35.3 	529 	1,116 	426.9 	5.7 	27.7 	102 	210 	49 	6 	9 	67 	91 	792 	30:37 	13 	7 	+23
2 	Denver Broncos 	15 	29.5 	443 	1,014 	391.9 	5.8 	23.2 	89 	201 	44 	3 	5 	60 	95 	775 	30:52 	21 	13 	0
3 	New Orleans Saints 	15 	28.2 	423 	1,004 	408.9 	6.1 	22.0 	87 	195 	45 	6 	12 	50 	99 	856 	29:11 	13 	5 	+2
4 	Washington Redskins 	15 	27.2 	408 	933 	384.7 	6.2 	21.1 	63 	179 	35 	12 	17 	71 	114 	965 	31:02 	25 	6 	+14
5 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	26.8 	402 	959 	375.2 	5.9 	21.9 	89 	190 	47 	1 	5 	20 	53 	400 	31:04 	9 	4 	+12
6 	Houston Texans 	15 	26.7 	400 	1,030 	373.4 	5.4 	21.5 	78 	210 	37 	4 	7 	57 	99 	809 	34:06 	12 	4 	+14
7 	Green Bay Packers 	15 	26.6 	399 	981 	356.4 	5.4 	21.1 	84 	200 	42 	6 	12 	50 	96 	880 	30:36 	15 	7 	+8
8 	New York Giants 	15 	25.8 	387 	910 	352.7 	5.8 	19.7 	73 	184 	40 	5 	10 	50 	71 	573 	29:01 	13 	6 	+13
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But you are still scared of the Chiefs, right SoCal?
Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do.

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.
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actually as of right now..
defense by yards..
Code:
 Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost
1 	Pittsburgh Steelers 	15 	20.3 	304 	889 	272.9 	4.6 	17.0 	70 	196 	36 	7 	9 	78 	91 	803 	27:51 	16 	7
2 	San Francisco 49ers 	14 	15.6 	218 	897 	293.0 	4.6 	17.9 	57 	190 	30 	13 	24 	54 	84 	679 	30:09 	20 	10
3 	Denver Broncos 	15 	19.1 	286 	967 	302.2 	4.7 	18.6 	62 	202 	31 	7 	18 	39 	118 	919 	29:08 	23 	8
Defense by points.

Code:
Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost
1 	San Francisco 49ers 	14 	15.6 	218 	897 	293.0 	4.6 	17.9 	57 	190 	30 	13 	24 	54 	84 	679 	30:09 	20 	10
2 	Seattle Seahawks 	14 	15.6 	219 	851 	303.9 	5.0 	18.4 	71 	176 	40 	1 	7 	14 	82 	746 	28:60 	24 	12
3 	Chicago Bears 	15 	16.9 	253 	958 	314.9 	4.9 	17.7 	71 	206 	34 	10 	16 	62 	74 	675 	28:52 	32 	17
4 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	18.5 	277 	926 	365.5 	5.9 	18.7 	74 	184 	40 	6 	13 	46 	81 	626 	28:56 	16 	11
5 	Denver Broncos 	15 	19.1 	286 	967 	302.2 	4.7 	18.6 	62 	202 	31 	7 	18 	39 	118 	919 	29:08 	23 	8
offense by yards..
Code:
Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost 	TO
1 	New England Patriots 	15 	35.3 	529 	1,116 	426.9 	5.7 	27.7 	102 	210 	49 	6 	9 	67 	91 	792 	30:37 	13 	7 	+23
2 	Detroit Lions 	15 	23.2 	348 	1,097 	414.2 	5.7 	24.1 	90 	214 	42 	6 	15 	40 	99 	915 	32:30 	21 	13 	-12
3 	New Orleans Saints 	15 	28.2 	423 	1,004 	408.9 	6.1 	22.0 	87 	195 	45 	6 	12 	50 	99 	856 	29:11 	13 	5 	+2
4 	Denver Broncos 	15 	29.5 	443 	1,014 	391.9 	5.8 	23.2 	
89 	201 	44 	3 	5 	60 	95 	775 	30:52 	21 	13 	0

offense by points..

Code:
Rk 	Team 	G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Scrm Plys 	Yds/G 	Yds/P 	1st/G 	3rd Md 	3rd Att 	3rd Pct 	4th Md 	4th Att 	4th Pct 	Pen 	Pen Yds 	ToP/G 	FUM 	Lost 	TO
1 	New England Patriots 	15 	35.3 	529 	1,116 	426.9 	5.7 	27.7 	102 	210 	49 	6 	9 	67 	91 	792 	30:37 	13 	7 	+23
2 	Denver Broncos 	15 	29.5 	443 	1,014 	391.9 	5.8 	23.2 	89 	201 	44 	3 	5 	60 	95 	775 	30:52 	21 	13 	0
3 	New Orleans Saints 	15 	28.2 	423 	1,004 	408.9 	6.1 	22.0 	87 	195 	45 	6 	12 	50 	99 	856 	29:11 	13 	5 	+2
4 	Washington Redskins 	15 	27.2 	408 	933 	384.7 	6.2 	21.1 	63 	179 	35 	12 	17 	71 	114 	965 	31:02 	25 	6 	+14
5 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	26.8 	402 	959 	375.2 	5.9 	21.9 	89 	190 	47 	1 	5 	20 	53 	400 	31:04 	9 	4 	+12
6 	Houston Texans 	15 	26.7 	400 	1,030 	373.4 	5.4 	21.5 	78 	210 	37 	4 	7 	57 	99 	809 	34:06 	12 	4 	+14
7 	Green Bay Packers 	15 	26.6 	399 	981 	356.4 	5.4 	21.1 	84 	200 	42 	6 	12 	50 	96 	880 	30:36 	15 	7 	+8
8 	New York Giants 	15 	25.8 	387 	910 	352.7 	5.8 	19.7 	73 	184 	40 	5 	10 	50 	71 	573 	29:01 	13 	6 	+13
Maybe it's just my iPad, but your tables are misaligned and hurt my brain.
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Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do.

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.
What is amazing about this team is we could have scored a lot more points and held opponents to much less points if we did not go so conservative in the second half with the lead.

I hate watching teams put up late game points because we go conservative.


I wish we had a little stronger running game but we are acceptable and will be better when Kupe returns. Really like the Hester pick up too. Hillman gets more comfortable every week too. Moreno is solid.
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Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do.

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.
They would have to **** up in epic proportions to lose to the Chiefs at home. I could see things going a little sideways and the game being closer than it should, but to lose? That would be one of the biggest **** ups in franchise history.
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I wasnt referring to the Chiefs game in particular, Agamemnon, but rather to the possibility of losing in the AFC playoffs at some point. There's really no excuse for it. Even HOU has been exposed in primetime games. I think there is a good chnace they lose to INDY which would hand us the No. 1 seed. Certainly in that instance, there's no excuse for not making it to the SB. DEN has been LIGHTS OUT at home since the Houston game and all of these other teams (even NE) SHOULD have an uphill battle to beat DEN in DEN.
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I still think Denver is prone to getting scored on. That's my only qualm. In their losses and in the game against San Diego, Denver's defense was getting flattened. Those losses weren't even close until the 4th quarter. Philip Rivers imploded, and I think we all knew that sort of win/loss was the kind that changes seasons (it totally reminded me of the season shift when the 4-4 Raiders came to Denver in 2002). No team really scares me except New England -- and that's because Tom Brady is the only QB that can hang with Peyton Manning. People suggesting we bail on the #1 seed are being idiots. Homefield advantage is gonna be a huge difference maker in who makes the Superbowl out of DEN/HOU/NE. The Broncos can handle Houston in Houston, but I sure as hell don't want to be going to New England and running into Belichick/Brady/the weather.
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I still think Denver is prone to getting scored on. That's my only qualm. In their losses and in the game against San Diego, Denver's defense was getting flattened.
The defense is pretty drastically different in terms of alignment and personnel at this point. Brooking, Carter (I have no doubt he'll be back on the active roster), Harris as a primary corner, DJ is back, etc....

All of those examples you cited happened in the first 6 weeks of the season as well. Since the end of the first half of that Chargers game this has been right near the top in terms of best defenses in football. They've shutdown some pretty good offenses (Saints and Ravens in particular). They force turnovers in bunches...it's just a really good defense.

I'm really interested to see how this defense stacks up against a New England or Houston now. I'm positive their a much better unit. I have no idea if they've improved enough to hold those offenses in check, it's going to be really interesting to find out.
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What is amazing about this team is we could have scored a lot more points and held opponents to much less points if we did not go so conservative in the second half with the lead.

I hate watching teams put up late game points because we go conservative.


I wish we had a little stronger running game but we are acceptable and will be better when Kupe returns. Really like the Hester pick up too. Hillman gets more comfortable every week too. Moreno is solid.
I agree I hate it when we start playing around instead of stepping on their throats when we can.

Run the damned score up take no hostages. Being the Seahawks and put up 50+ each week.

as for Kuper coming back. Rumor has it it is both ankles.

I get this feeling he will not be back. Maybe ever.

Maybe Kupes Dad can give us the real skinny.

But in the mean time do not hold your breath about him riding in to save the day.
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They would have to **** up in epic proportions to lose to the Chiefs at home. I could see things going a little sideways and the game being closer than it should, but to lose? That would be one of the biggest **** ups in franchise history.
Denver lost last year at home against the Chiefs the final game of the season.
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Let me add it see,Ed to me we jumped into zone coverage opposed to man during the game and all of sudden they started moving the ball.
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Whats the status on McGahee and Kuper?
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Whats the status on McGahee and Kuper?
I thought Mcgahee was IR? Kuper I think returns at some point by playoffs.
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It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.
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Denver lost last year at home against the Chiefs the final game of the season.
Always a risk playing a team that hates you, that has nothing to lose or gain. They often go for it on 4th down in the 1st quarter, try fake punts, etc whatever it takes to spoil it for the rival.

Still though the qbs stink there. The only player I could see making big plays is Charles and we are pretty good vs the run.
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It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.
Pretty unlikely a rb tears a ligament late in the yr, then makes it back by playoffs. I'd say its even possible McGahee done in Denver. What is he 32? coming off a bad injury on a team with Hillman just drafted and Moreno surging. I could see Broncos signing a younger vet back, or drafting another RB, and letting McGahee go.

I love him just saying it could happen.
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Throw in all his fumbles and I think McGahee in a bit of trouble for next yrs roster.
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It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.
Looks like the 3rd round according to this article. I was just wondering how his rehab has been coming along. Sunday would have made it week 5 of a 6-8 week injury.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...willis-mcgahee
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as for Kuper coming back. Rumor has it it is both ankles.
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The stat I still worry about is T/G. We're 18th. All of the other stats read very nicely. We are #1 in scoring differential and #3 in yard differential. If we improve on that T/G we are unstoppable.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:20 AM   #25
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Let me add it see,Ed to me we jumped into zone coverage opposed to man during the game and all of sudden they started moving the ball.
Do what we do best and stay with it.
Yesterday we also had Porter in ( who immediately got dinged and went out in the 1st quarter), and Carter was not active ( a BAD decision). When Cleveland started moving the ball it was mostly passes to their left...wide open. Carter will be back on the field next week ( I doubt Porter plays again),
and the miscommunication we saw yesterday should not be happening.

As to the D being scored on. Yeah it has been happening and is somewhat worrisome. But the references to the first SD game were wrong. The defense really only allowed 7 points and one drive in the first half, and got put in BAD positions by the offense ( 17 points off turnovers). Down 24 -0
they stepped it up even more and shut out SD in the 2nd half.

The one thing that I do think is finally evening out is turnovers. We are finally receovirng fumbles ( both ours and theirs) and are getting more than giving mostly.
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