#1 seed still alive - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

winstoncup bronco · 12-23-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NASurfer

Nice research. They'll be basically playing to choose their opponent. They could just give their starters a rest and take their bye now, but if they fear New England that badly they could play to avoid them and take on the AFC North winner instead.

This.

Also, I think the HOU matchup is actually the best one we would want. You'd want to get your rookie QB as much experience as possible going into the postseason as it is, but with a matchup against the #1 seed, you have all the more reason to play these guys 100% and see how you measure up as a playoff team. If I was coach, I'd definitely try to make a statement in this game.

If it were KC or JAX, I'd be more concerned about starters being pulled. They should actually care about this game.

ScottXray · 12-23-2012, 04:26 PM

Well if Houston loses ( and we win) we get the #1 seed.

The bad side of that would be if NE wins then they get the #2 over Houston ( head to head record). This would ALMOST be enough to want Houston to win.

Almost!

Screw it I want the #1 seed no matter what.

And New England COULD lose to the Jets.....

( RIGHT! I mean RRRRRRIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT. Really)

Does anyone think that team ( jets) and coach can win in foxboro in December?

So win next week and see where we are. Don't let KC screw things up.

Vine · 12-23-2012, 04:31 PM

Playing with the ESPN Playoff Machine, I was unable to find a way to get the Colts a #6 seed.

Even with Baltimore getting the #4 seed at 10-6, and Cincy and Indy also all finishing at 10-6, it would make sense to me that Baltimore wins the AFC North and #4 seed based on a better divisional record than Cincy's. So to break the #5 seed tie between Cincy and Indy, it would come down to the 4th tiebreaker strength of victory.

Unless I am looking at something wrong, or the ESPN Playoff Machine is wrong under that scenario, it might be appear that Indy is locked in at the #5 seed, but I am not exactly sure why.

Rock Chalk · 12-23-2012, 04:32 PM

Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.

Rock Chalk · 12-23-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vine

Playing with the ESPN Playoff Machine, I was unable to find a way to get the Colts a #6 seed.

Even with Baltimore getting the #4 seed at 10-6, and Cincy and Indy also all finishing at 10-6, it would make sense to me that Baltimore wins the AFC North and #4 seed based on a better divisional record than Cincy's. So to break the #5 seed tie between Cincy and Indy, it would come down to the 4th tiebreaker strength of victory.

Unless I am looking at something wrong, or the ESPN Playoff Machine is wrong under that scenario, it might be appear that Indy is locked in at the #5 seed, but I am not exactly sure why.

Because no matter what happens next week, Indy has a better strength of victory tiebreaker over Cincy.

yakyakyuk · 12-23-2012, 04:33 PM

Indy clinched a playoff berth and No. 5 seed with a win due to a better record in common games than the Bengals (4-1 to 3-2).

Vine · 12-23-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.

Well that sucks then. How do you know that? Did you hear it somewhere. I don't see it being clarified on the tiebreaking procedures page.

Vine · 12-23-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by yakyakyuk

Indy clinched a playoff berth and No. 5 seed with a win due to a better record in common games than the Bengals (4-1 to 3-2).

Edit: I am double checking this...

Yes, you are absolutely right. Cincy has played Cleveland (twice), Jax, Miami, and KC, and is 3-2 in those games. Indy has played Jax (twice), Cleveland, Miami, and KC and is 4-1 in those games. So it don't even go to that complicated strength of victory tiebreaker.

Rock Chalk · 12-23-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vine

Well that sucks then. How do you know that? Did you hear it somewhere. I don't see it being clarified on the tiebreaking procedures page.

http://football.about.com/cs/footbal...rengthofvi.htm

If you dont like about.com, here's wiki's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...#Breaking_ties

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Originally Posted by wiki

Strength of victory (the combined won-lost-tied percentage of all the teams that a club has defeated).

Kaylore · 12-23-2012, 04:41 PM

Good. This prevents the Chiefs from being a trap game.

yakyakyuk · 12-23-2012, 04:46 PM

Common games: Cleveland, Miami, Jacksonville, Kansas City

Indy record is 4-1: w jax, l jax, w Miami, w kc, w Cleveland
Cindy record is 3-2: w jax, w clev, l clev, w kc, l miami

Vine · 12-23-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Good. This prevents the Chiefs from being a trap game.

Yeah, Denver needs this game. A win to ensure a first round bye. A loss, and a likely wildcard game (doubtful Miami beats Pats). However, Denver will have a good idea knowing how much the meaning of their game, with the Pats and Texans playing early games.

If Houston wins and New England loses, starters will probably only play a half next week.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 12-23-2012, 04:51 PM

Pagano comes back next week? That will light fires under that entire team

Beantown Bronco · 12-23-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.

Just a few weeks ago, you had some pretty harsh words for anyone who said that there was even a chance we could get the #1 seed. Sweating yet?

ZONA · 12-23-2012, 06:09 PM

I don't know why anybody would the Broncos to have the #2 seed vs the #1 seed. If it stayed put now, if NE wins their 1st round game, they still come to Denver. If they had the #2 seed and us the #1 seed, NE still comes to Denver. And we would NEVER have to go to Houston. Give me that #1 seed and who cares what NE does.

Br0nc0Buster · 12-23-2012, 06:13 PM

I know Pagano is coming back, but do the Colts have anything to play for?

It is my understanding they are locked in at the 5 seed and that wont change regardless of next week's outcome

I hope they dont ease up on the gas

Texans look very vulnerable right now

ZONA · 12-23-2012, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

I know Pagano is coming back, but do the Colts have anything to play for?

It is my understanding they are locked in at the 5 seed and that wont change regardless of next week's outcome

I hope they dont ease up on the gas

Texans look very vulnerable right now

Well they can rest guys but you do have a rookie QB who needs the experience and if he plays then you don't want 2nd teamers out there blocking for him. And you would like to finish the regular season on a high note for confidence. You don't want to lose. We shall see.

BroncoFox · 12-23-2012, 06:16 PM

I am on board fully now. Our offense is very solid. Our defense is also very solid. I don't care who we play. So I'd rather just play them at home. So I hope Texans lose - we will definitely win. If Fox is doing one thing right this year, it is keeping the team's head on straight. He is not allowing them to look ahead. So we will win. Let's just hope Texans lose! I'd much rather have two home games!

maher_tyler · 12-23-2012, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

I know Pagano is coming back, but do the Colts have anything to play for?

It is my understanding they are locked in at the 5 seed and that wont change regardless of next week's outcome

I hope they dont ease up on the gas

Texans look very vulnerable right now

If they are locked in then you gotta assume they'll rest their starters.

winstoncup bronco · 12-23-2012, 07:17 PM

The consensus on this board so far is for the Colts to play balls to the wall next week.....

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70365

TheChamp24 · 12-23-2012, 08:19 PM

Colts will play to win, they need to prove they can beat a team like the Texans, although personally I feel they are a fluke team.
Houston does not scare me at all to be honest. I mean, the Vikings just blew them out in their own place.
Houston had no business losing this game to be honest, and they got blown out.

uplink · 12-23-2012, 08:26 PM

Well if the broncos and texans win next week, the broncos have 2 weeks to prep. for NE. That is what they should do with the week off. It unlikely NE looses at home during the wildcard round. If the broncos get the #1 seed, they should spend the week off preparing for the ravens, as the ravens don't often loose at home.

12-23-2012, 06:09 PM	#40
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,383 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I don't know why anybody would the Broncos to have the #2 seed vs the #1 seed. If it stayed put now, if NE wins their 1st round game, they still come to Denver. If they had the #2 seed and us the #1 seed, NE still comes to Denver. And we would NEVER have to go to Houston. Give me that #1 seed and who cares what NE does. Last edited by ZONA; 12-23-2012 at 06:14 PM..

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12-23-2012, 04:26 PM	#27
ScottXray Opinionated A**** Love Me some PANCAKES!** Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: PDX (Portland OR) Posts: 4,663 Adopt-a-Bronco: J. D. Walton	Well if Houston loses ( and we win) we get the #1 seed. The bad side of that would be if NE wins then they get the #2 over Houston ( head to head record). This would ALMOST be enough to want Houston to win. Almost! Screw it I want the #1 seed no matter what. And New England COULD lose to the Jets..... ( RIGHT! I mean RRRRRRIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT. Really) Does anyone think that team ( jets) and coach can win in foxboro in December? So win next week and see where we are. Don't let KC screw things up.

12-23-2012, 04:31 PM	#28
Vine Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chadron, Nebraska Posts: 1,933 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Playing with the ESPN Playoff Machine, I was unable to find a way to get the Colts a #6 seed. Even with Baltimore getting the #4 seed at 10-6, and Cincy and Indy also all finishing at 10-6, it would make sense to me that Baltimore wins the AFC North and #4 seed based on a better divisional record than Cincy's. So to break the #5 seed tie between Cincy and Indy, it would come down to the 4th tiebreaker strength of victory. Unless I am looking at something wrong, or the ESPN Playoff Machine is wrong under that scenario, it might be appear that Indy is locked in at the #5 seed, but I am not exactly sure why.

12-23-2012, 04:32 PM	#29
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus. Its how good your wins are. A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten. Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.

12-23-2012, 04:33 PM	#31
yakyakyuk Just Drafted Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 23	Indy clinched a playoff berth and No. 5 seed with a win due to a better record in common games than the Bengals (4-1 to 3-2).

12-23-2012, 04:41 PM	#35
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,051 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Good. This prevents the Chiefs from being a trap game.

12-23-2012, 04:46 PM	#36
yakyakyuk Just Drafted Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 23	Common games: Cleveland, Miami, Jacksonville, Kansas City Indy record is 4-1: w jax, l jax, w Miami, w kc, w Cleveland Cindy record is 3-2: w jax, w clev, l clev, w kc, l miami

12-23-2012, 04:51 PM	#38
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,260 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	Pagano comes back next week? That will light fires under that entire team

12-23-2012, 06:13 PM	#41
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,432	I know Pagano is coming back, but do the Colts have anything to play for? It is my understanding they are locked in at the 5 seed and that wont change regardless of next week's outcome I hope they dont ease up on the gas Texans look very vulnerable right now

12-23-2012, 06:16 PM	#43
BroncoFox BroncoFox I don't have fleas.. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,715	I am on board fully now. Our offense is very solid. Our defense is also very solid. I don't care who we play. So I'd rather just play them at home. So I hope Texans lose - we will definitely win. If Fox is doing one thing right this year, it is keeping the team's head on straight. He is not allowing them to look ahead. So we will win. Let's just hope Texans lose! I'd much rather have two home games!

12-23-2012, 07:17 PM	#45
winstoncup bronco Crew Chief Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NEW YORK CITY, USA Posts: 5,060	The consensus on this board so far is for the Colts to play balls to the wall next week..... http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70365

12-23-2012, 08:19 PM	#46
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,875	Colts will play to win, they need to prove they can beat a team like the Texans, although personally I feel they are a fluke team. Houston does not scare me at all to be honest. I mean, the Vikings just blew them out in their own place. Houston had no business losing this game to be honest, and they got blown out.

12-23-2012, 08:26 PM	#47
uplink Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,813	Well if the broncos and texans win next week, the broncos have 2 weeks to prep. for NE. That is what they should do with the week off. It unlikely NE looses at home during the wildcard round. If the broncos get the #1 seed, they should spend the week off preparing for the ravens, as the ravens don't often loose at home.