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Taco John · 12-18-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

The Manning effect

I have a hard time crediting Manning for what is looking to be a Knowshon turn around. I think it's right to credit Fox for that. Putting the guy in street clothes during games, and on the scouting squad during practice... You don't typically see a first rounder put through that. It says a lot about Fox as a player developer, but also about Moreno for enduring it, and using it as an opportunity to get better.

Bronco Rob · 12-18-2012, 10:41 AM

Happy for Knowshon, glad he is almost performing up to his draft position after four seasons.

SonOfLe-loLang · 12-18-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

good one.

If you only used a pic of Steve prefontaine that would have been epic

Punisher · 12-18-2012, 11:53 AM

Not sleeping on the Browns or K.C we could lose to either one.

DENVERDUI55 · 12-18-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I have a hard time crediting Manning for what is looking to be a Knowshon turn around. I think it's right to credit Fox for that. Putting the guy in street clothes during games, and on the scouting squad during practice... You don't typically see a first rounder put through that. It says a lot about Fox as a player developer, but also about Moreno for enduring it, and using it as an opportunity to get better.

I do the manning effect has him only having to run agaisnt nickle D and 5 and 6 man boxes. Teams would rather let run game slowly bleed them and hope Denver shoots themselves in the foot vs Manning striking quick.

razorwire77 · 12-18-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Not sleeping on the Browns or K.C we could lose to either one.

Screw that. The Browns will hang around for bit before we beat them by 10-14 and we will absolutely destroy KC. They'll probably be starting Stanzi for Christ's Sake. If we can't beat Stanzi to Baldwin at home, **** we might as well not even show up for the playoffs.

Crushaholic · 12-20-2012, 08:41 AM

This game won't be played, due to the end of the world. Thank you for your interest. Just in case we are still here, Browns roll - 5,348 to 9. Matt Prater needs some work...

JakeZ01 · 12-20-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

hey, BROWNS:

Genius.

JakeZ01 · 12-20-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

I agree. I also think Knowshon is having things slow down for him. Several times vs the Ravens he would hit the hole, see where his blocking was going and get what he could get, rather then running right into the pile or trying to dance away from it. Maturity as a runner is a good thing.

Plus he hurdled Ed Reed. It is pretty sweet.

Also, they oline is blocking defensive linemen now... So there is that.

razorwire77 · 12-20-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

This game won't be played, due to the end of the world. Thank you for your interest. Just in case we are still here, Browns roll - 5,348 to 9. Matt Prater needs some work...

Mayans 122112

Matt Prater 6

Rohirrim · 12-20-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by razorwire77

Mayans 122112

Matt Prater 6

The Mayan QB is pretty tough.

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 09:16 AM

Oh Damn

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 09:17 AM

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 09:19 AM

Suck it Browns

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 09:21 AM

Irish Stout · 12-20-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I have a hard time crediting Manning for what is looking to be a Knowshon turn around. I think it's right to credit Fox for that. Putting the guy in street clothes during games, and on the scouting squad during practice... You don't typically see a first rounder put through that. It says a lot about Fox as a player developer, but also about Moreno for enduring it, and using it as an opportunity to get better.

Fox did what he had to to try and get Moreno to respond. Moreno took it like a man and came back the right way. Too many of these athletes take it like a prima dona and get pouty. Way to go Moreno.

On a similar note, there seems to be a stronger philosophy that the run game is everyones game this year. I'm seeing more and more when the RB gets in front of the line or a TE that they get behind him and push forward when the RB is getting stacked up. I've seen many times this year where we get the first down or even a TD because of this.

I give Fox credit for getting the philosophy of the team right across the board.

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 09:27 AM

Inkana7 · 12-20-2012, 10:52 AM

Since I live in Ohio, I have to watch the Browns play a lot. They're a really boring team, but that's because they're just solid enough to not lose by a lot. Their defense is really pretty good, and Joe Haden is one of the top corners in the NFL.

Weeden is really up and down. Sometimes it looks like he has what it takes to be one of the next generation of good QBs, but other times he just looks awful. That's probably due to the Browns receivers, which are probably the worst in the NFL, but the kid they picked up in the Supplemental Draft, Josh Gordon, really looks like he has a lot of talent that can be developed. Both of their WRs, Gordon and Greg Little, while not very good, are both huge--the kind of receiver that Tony Carter has struggled with all year. So there's that to watch for. Trent Richardson is also a beast, but our Run D will most likely shut him down.

I expect a Broncos win, by 10+, but it'll be a boring game and lots of people will whine about things afterwards. Just remember that these Browns actually have some talent, just not enough yet.

oubronco · 12-20-2012, 12:59 PM

Rohirrim · 12-21-2012, 08:06 AM

Shurmur says he plans to play a lot of nickle against the Broncos. "We’re going to play a lot of nickel as we go. We’ll move the other guys up. L.J. (Fort) will move up." Also, a discussion about Von and Dumervil and how to defend against PM.
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2012/12...ed-4th-captain

razorwire77 · 12-21-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Shurmur says he plans to play a lot of nickle against the Broncos. "We’re going to play a lot of nickel as we go. We’ll move the other guys up. L.J. (Fort) will move up." Also, a discussion about Von and Dumervil and how to defend against PM.
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2012/12...ed-4th-captain

All aboard the Moreno train to the promise land!!!

I'm always skeptical about coaches reveling their defensive game plans to the media.

Beantown Bronco · 12-21-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I do the manning effect has him only having to run agaisnt nickle D and 5 and 6 man boxes. Teams would rather let run game slowly bleed them and hope Denver shoots themselves in the foot vs Manning striking quick.

Please. If that were truly the case, then our OLine would have to be the worst run blocking line in the league....given that there always seems to be at least one or two guys in the backfield on any given run play.

Kaylore · 12-21-2012, 10:19 AM

I was just on two Browns message boards. Neither was talking about this game. Nobody seems to care or be worried about it.

Rohirrim · 12-21-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I was just on two Browns message boards. Neither was talking about this game. Nobody seems to care or be worried about it.

In Brown's land, it's time to start talking about the draft. In KC, they started in week 4.

Broncos4Life · 12-21-2012, 10:49 AM

Nobody should ever "hypothetically" say Weeden is going 27-34 on this Broncos defense. That is just not going to happen. No way, no how does he complete 27 passes on this defense.

That hurt my brain when I read that from whatever poster posted it! I can see him throwing 34 times, but if he completes 27 on our D I will puke in my mouth, **** myself and then the world will blow up!

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12-18-2012, 10:41 AM	#77
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Happy for Knowshon, glad he is almost performing up to his draft position after four seasons.

12-18-2012, 11:53 AM	#79
Punisher ® You Tell The NFL! We're coming for That Belt! WOOOOO® Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broncos Video Vault Posts: 6,636 Adopt-a-Bronco: i4jelway7	Not sleeping on the Browns or K.C we could lose to either one.

12-20-2012, 08:41 AM	#82
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,078	This game won't be played, due to the end of the world. Thank you for your interest. Just in case we are still here, Browns roll - 5,348 to 9. Matt Prater needs some work...

12-20-2012, 09:16 AM	#87
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686	Oh Damn

12-20-2012, 09:17 AM	#88
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686

12-20-2012, 09:19 AM	#89
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686	Suck it Browns

12-20-2012, 09:21 AM	#90
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686

12-20-2012, 09:27 AM	#92
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686

12-20-2012, 10:52 AM	#93
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,232 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	Since I live in Ohio, I have to watch the Browns play a lot. They're a really boring team, but that's because they're just solid enough to not lose by a lot. Their defense is really pretty good, and Joe Haden is one of the top corners in the NFL. Weeden is really up and down. Sometimes it looks like he has what it takes to be one of the next generation of good QBs, but other times he just looks awful. That's probably due to the Browns receivers, which are probably the worst in the NFL, but the kid they picked up in the Supplemental Draft, Josh Gordon, really looks like he has a lot of talent that can be developed. Both of their WRs, Gordon and Greg Little, while not very good, are both huge--the kind of receiver that Tony Carter has struggled with all year. So there's that to watch for. Trent Richardson is also a beast, but our Run D will most likely shut him down. I expect a Broncos win, by 10+, but it'll be a boring game and lots of people will whine about things afterwards. Just remember that these Browns actually have some talent, just not enough yet.

12-20-2012, 12:59 PM	#94
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686

12-21-2012, 08:06 AM	#95
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,110	Shurmur says he plans to play a lot of nickle against the Broncos. "We’re going to play a lot of nickel as we go. We’ll move the other guys up. L.J. (Fort) will move up." Also, a discussion about Von and Dumervil and how to defend against PM. http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2012/12...ed-4th-captain

12-21-2012, 10:19 AM	#98
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,339 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I was just on two Browns message boards. Neither was talking about this game. Nobody seems to care or be worried about it.

12-21-2012, 10:49 AM	#100
Broncos4Life Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QC....both sides... Posts: 1,778	Nobody should ever "hypothetically" say Weeden is going 27-34 on this Broncos defense. That is just not going to happen. No way, no how does he complete 27 passes on this defense. That hurt my brain when I read that from whatever poster posted it! I can see him throwing 34 times, but if he completes 27 on our D I will puke in my mouth, **** myself and then the world will blow up!