The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-17-2012, 01:27 PM   #26
Al Wilson
Perennial Pro-bowler
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 966
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
The Browns are a team on the right path. They have a good defense, a very good running back, and are hoping their QB can grow up quickly. Their return game is good. They are average, not bad.
I laughed out too loud.
Al Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 01:28 PM   #27
razorwire77
Tapenade Swagga
 
razorwire77's Avatar
 
"Not too shabby."

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 4,596

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Bradley Roby
Default

Cleveland isn't nearly as bad as they have been in the past. Head to head they are probably better than half of the teams we've played this year (SD, KC, Oakland, and Carolina. They are certainly an any given Sunday type team that we probably won't be resting starters against. Richardson is solid, they have pieces in place on the on-line (LT obviously), Weeden is serviceable, but despite being 30 is still a rookie and I don't think he's ever going to develop into a top 10 QB.

What it really comes down to is they lack a franchise QB and the ability to rush the QB, which in turn really exposes an average secondary and LB core.

If play like we have been I'm thinking a 10-14 point spread.
razorwire77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #28
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,229

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
unless we're up 40-0 in the 4th we better not rest a damn thing.
i want Brock to get live game reps and i want our starters healthy but we're playing for the chance to host at least 1 playoff game and a bye. that's bigger than resting guys.
Now that we are in control of the bye do what it takes to win than rest during the bye week. It's a no brainer.
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 01:39 PM   #29
gunns
I WANT DEFENSE!
 
gunns's Avatar
 
Defense, defense, defense

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Always Hoping
Posts: 12,702

Adopt-a-Bronco:
TJ Ward
Default

"It looks like my only wish not to happen ,,IS going to happen !! Damn i hate playing them at Mile High. This is not the same Denver we defeated twice last year. I was always worried about this one. If Cleveland doesn't beat them next week than thats it ,we will be seeded 3,,,however crazy as it sounds i told my sons today that i fancied Cleveland for the upset !!
Heres wishing ."

~abdul 7 Patriots board http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...oad-page3.html
gunns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 01:41 PM   #30
pricejj
jungle
 
pricejj's Avatar
 
United In Orange

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 10,086
Default

1. Beat Cleveland BAMN.

2. Tony Carter needs to man-up. Sick of him giving up big plays late in games that lead to unecessary scores. He (and the Safeties) are the weakest links in one of the leagues strongest Defenses.

3. Offense needs to get get ALOT better finishing drives to win in the playoffs. 10 points in the first-half against the Patriots is not going to cut it. Less than 30 for the entire game is probably not going to cut it either. I'm thinking it will take at least 34 to win that game (maybe more)...need to start firing on all cylinders.
pricejj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:05 PM   #31
TonyR
Franchise Poster
 
TonyR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 19,732
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushaholic View Post
We don't step on throats. That's just not our style...
True. We always get more conservative on both sides of the ball. After watching NE come back from a 31-3 deficit last night I hope John Fox realizes you can't do that sh*t on the playoffs. Gotta shoot to kill. Step on throat, do not let up.
TonyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:12 PM   #32
Mile High 81
Solid Starter
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bad Salzuflen, Germany
Posts: 224
Default

I agree with everything you said of the browns but

Quote:
a very good running back,
thats not true. T.Rich has one of the worst YPC of all NFL RB. For an Top Five Pick, thats an disappointment.
Mile High 81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:13 PM   #33
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
Posts: 55,935

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyR View Post
True. We always get more conservative on both sides of the ball. After watching NE come back from a 31-3 deficit last night I hope John Fox realizes you can't do that sh*t on the playoffs. Gotta shoot to kill. Step on throat, do not let up.
He's been there before.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:13 PM   #34
StugotsIII
O-H
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,506

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Your Mom
Default

I've watched and followed the Browns throughout the year this year....they are far better than people give them credit for.
StugotsIII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:15 PM   #35
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 16,542
Default

Cleveland will come out and play a physical game, which Denver has to match.

Denver should win the game, but if they come out flat or make a bunch of mistakes, Cleveland is capable of making a game of it.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:16 PM   #36
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 16,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StugotsIII View Post
I've watched and followed the Browns throughout the year this year....they are far better than people give them credit for.
I agree....they have a lot of pieces in place.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:20 PM   #37
Requiem
~~~
 
Requiem's Avatar
 
~ ~ ~

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Earth Division
Posts: 24,315

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Princes of Tara
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile High 81 View Post
I agree with everything you said of the browns but


thats not true. T.Rich has one of the worst YPC of all NFL RB. For an Top Five Pick, thats an disappointment.
1,200 APY and 12 touchdowns. The Browns do not have that good of an OL either. I'd say he is doing pretty good for a rookie. He isn't Al Morris or Doug Martin, but what can ya do?
Requiem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:20 PM   #38
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 16,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
The Browns never felt like a "rivalry" to me. They always just felt like a team we beat on our way through the playoffs.
I grew up in Ohio rooting for the Broncos....it felt like a rivalry to me.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:23 PM   #39
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 16,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Requiem View Post
1,200 APY and 12 touchdowns. The Browns do not have that good of an OL either. I'd say he is doing pretty good for a rookie. He isn't Al Morris or Doug Martin, but what can ya do?
Plus, Trent Richardson started the season with a knee injury and played through it and has played through a painful rib injury for several weeks.

He's a very good RB who needs some time to heal up, but is playing through his injuries.

Give him the offseason to heal up and look for big things from him next season.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:25 PM   #40
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,229

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Now this is your true trap game.

Reading the board you would think we have the 2 seed sewed up.
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #41
Tombstone RJ
Ring of Famer
 
Tombstone RJ's Avatar
 
Old School

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: In the Tetons!
Posts: 22,265

Adopt-a-Bronco:
WorrellWilliams
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
Now this is your true trap game.

Reading the board you would think we have the 2 seed sewed up.
good thing is its a home game
Tombstone RJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 02:33 PM   #42
pricejj
jungle
 
pricejj's Avatar
 
United In Orange

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 10,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
Now this is your true trap game.

Reading the board you would think we have the 2 seed sewed up.
pricejj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:04 PM   #43
Lestat
Oreo Lucian Rockefeller
 
Lestat's Avatar
 
Say what again! I dare you!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 10,771
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBroncos4life View Post
I honestly can't believe they want to blow the coaching staff up. I hope they do and fail because that is what they deserve.
why can't you believe it? brand new owner, new team president, going to be a new GM.
in most cases of new ownership the entire regime changes.
now the new regime might decide that the coaches are doing a good job developing the roster and keep them but that almost never happens with new ownership.

the new owner is a life long Steelers fan which likely means he wants to model his team after them. he's even said he's willing to look at uniform changes.
i just don't see the Browns keeping things intact with that potential mindset.
Lestat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:08 PM   #44
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,229

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pricejj View Post
Have you ever read a game thread. go read this week's
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #45
pricejj
jungle
 
pricejj's Avatar
 
United In Orange

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 10,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
Have you ever read a game thread. go read this week's
Don't worry about it boss. The Broncos have a lot to improve on, and they know it.

Like Peyton said, they haven't played up to their potential yet. These home games against the Browns and Chiefs are exactly what we needed to prepare for the playoffs and a Superbowl run.

Change the oil, clean out the carb, and adjust the mirrors...we're goin' for a ride!

pricejj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #46
Kaylore
4 time AFCW Champs
 
Kaylore's Avatar
 
12 straight road division wins

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ceti Alpha V
Posts: 47,198

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

This isn't a trap game.

Let's assume the Browns defense plays light's out and really puts the breaks on our offense (unlikely, but let's pretend). Let's say the Browns return a kick for a TD and somehow their run game grinds it out. Even with all of that - a perfect storm of things, if you will, do you honestly think they hold us to less than 17 at home?

If the game is on the line and the Browns need a score, are you scared of Brandon Weeden?

Do you think our corners are going to have hard time containing Greg Little and Josh Gordon?

This isn't a trap game. MAYBE if it was on the road, but I would still predict a win. I do think it will be closer than some think, but not much closer.
Kaylore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:35 PM   #47
DBroncos4life
Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU
 
DBroncos4life's Avatar
 
Bacon bits

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The wrong side of right.
Posts: 28,758

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Julius "Fluff"
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
why can't you believe it? brand new owner, new team president, going to be a new GM.
in most cases of new ownership the entire regime changes.
now the new regime might decide that the coaches are doing a good job developing the roster and keep them but that almost never happens with new ownership.

the new owner is a life long Steelers fan which likely means he wants to model his team after them. he's even said he's willing to look at uniform changes.
i just don't see the Browns keeping things intact with that potential mindset.
Because this staff has them playing hard and going in the right direction. You don't fire guys that ARE improving your team in favor of for guys that MIGHT. Like I said I hope it all blows up in their face.
DBroncos4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:45 PM   #48
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,229

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
This isn't a trap game.

Let's assume the Browns defense plays light's out and really puts the breaks on our offense (unlikely, but let's pretend). Let's say the Browns return a kick for a TD and somehow their run game grinds it out. Even with all of that - a perfect storm of things, if you will, do you honestly think they hold us to less than 17 at home?

If the game is on the line and the Browns need a score, are you scared of Brandon Weeden?

Do you think our corners are going to have hard time containing Greg Little and Josh Gordon?

This isn't a trap game. MAYBE if it was on the road, but I would still predict a win. I do think it will be closer than some think, but not much closer.
I think you just laid out the prerequisite ingredients necessary for a trap game.
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:46 PM   #49
Requiem
~~~
 
Requiem's Avatar
 
~ ~ ~

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Earth Division
Posts: 24,315

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Princes of Tara
Default

Trap game? Browns better prepare their anuses/anusii.
Requiem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 03:50 PM   #50
razorwire77
Tapenade Swagga
 
razorwire77's Avatar
 
"Not too shabby."

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 4,596

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Bradley Roby
Default

Not a trap game. Let's say hypothetically the Browns come out fired up and play a solid game. Weeden might go 27-34 with 230 yards and a touchdown (a nice game for him), let's say Richardson goes 20-110 and touchdown and they get another miscellaneous touchdown on a turnover, punt return etc. They also get a field-goal. That's 24 points. Even assuming this best case scenario are they going to hold this team to under 24 points, with a minimal pass rush and a mediocre secondary?
razorwire77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:45 AM.


Denver Broncos