119 yds, 1 td give it up ! - Page 6 - The Orange Mane

Jetmeck · 12-06-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Action

Oh yeah, and those people who are obsessing over the fact that Raiders run defense is so horrible he should have gotten way more... let's see if there are any running backs or teams that have performed worse than Moreno in terms of YPC against the Raiders

Ray Rice 13 carries 2.7 YPC
Trent Richardson 20 carries 3.6 YPC
Jamaal Charles 5 carries 0.8 YPC
San Diego as a team 20 carries for 1.6 YPC
Rashad Jennings 21 carries for 2.1 YPC
Michael Turner 11 carres for 3.0 YPC
Steelers as a team 20 carries for 2.7 YPC

YPC! The tell all stat!

That should shut the fools up, great post.

Listen up clowns KM is balling, giving this team his all.

Picking up blitzes, tough running and good for 20-30 yards a game

in passing.

O-line sucks lately, lets see how you do with no holes rarely and

sometimes a jail break in the backfield.

**** off....................

Bacchus · 12-07-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

That should shut the fools up, great post.

Listen up clowns KM is balling, giving this team his all.

Picking up blitzes, tough running and good for 20-30 yards a game

in passing.

O-line sucks lately, lets see how you do with no holes rarely and

sometimes a jail break in the backfield.

**** off....................

lol.. you are so angry.

Action · 12-07-2012, 01:37 AM

Oh yeah, let me also add that the 167 Yards Moreno had were the most yards from scrimmage anyone from the Broncos backfield this year.

Yeah, that means McGahee hasn't gotten this many yards in a game this year.

Drek · 12-07-2012, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

On both Morenos TD run and the one first down Clark pushed him to the promised land, like get upfield knowshon oh **** it i'll do it for you

Good stuff

1. Its nice that Clark eventually did show up on that TD run because it was his damn fault that Moreno got wrapped up at the LOS when Clark failed to move his man out. He ended up pushing his defender who had Moreno wrapped while Moreno kept trudging forward.

2. On the first down reception Clark ran Moreno over when it looked like Moreno might have had the ability to break it back to the middle of the field and pick up more yardage.

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Originally Posted by Aftermath

I think he played a good game tonight. But I dont think "whoever" needs to eat crow as described by OP. This was one of his best games, but I believe, on 32 carries vs the Raiders with our line he should have done MUCH better.

Our line's run blocking was ****ing putrid last night. Moreno doing what he did was even more impressive thanks to their complete inability to open any real holes for Moreno. I can't recall a single running play where we had a blocker at the second level, but I can recall plenty where Moreno faced his first unblocked defender in the backfield.

Old Dude · 12-07-2012, 03:08 AM

Never dreamed I'd see Moreno with 32 carries in a game. Didn't throw a shoe. Didn't fumble. Didn't get gassed or gimped. Actually finished strong.

And this transformation happened while he was supposedly on the practice squad?

More likely:

Punisher · 12-07-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Plus 48 yards receiving.

He seems to be running angry every carry. Even through the last few years he'd give you a highlight run ever so often, he never had the consistency he's playing with now. Don't want to overreact too much but right now he reminds me of the guy who played at Georgia that was a consensus first rounder.

Yea time to go to CVS and buy some chill pills, KM is doing a good job so far so good.

ozomulsion · 12-07-2012, 04:33 AM

69 yards after contact. Good for 2nd most of any Bronco RB over the last 4 years.

fwf · 12-07-2012, 05:01 AM

He was awesome accept for a few blow assignments and being out of place a few time. I'm not ready to sign him to a long term contract tho. I want to see it play out before I make judgement.
Hopefully we can get a lead in these last few games so were able to spell him and keep him fresh for the playoffs.
Props again to the coaches. They kept this kid around and the benching seem to lite a fire , one and two kept him fresh. He's running as hard as an undrafted rookie at his first practice.

baja · 12-07-2012, 05:13 AM

Moreno finally has got his head into the game. Gone is the showboating & pulling himself out every other play. Yes the light has finally gone on for Knowshon Moreno and he will get better by the week, oh he will have the odd bad play and maybe even a bad game but he is on his way to being a go to back.

2KBack · 12-07-2012, 05:15 AM

I love how people love to use the overall team statistics of the opponent with zero context for their argument. Oakland has a terribly ranked run defense for the season...but lets look at some of the individual performances against the raiders this year...

T. Richardson: 20 carries 72 yards 3.6
R. Rice: 13 for 35 2.7
M. Turner: 11 for 33 3.3
R. Jennings/MJD: 22 for 50 2.3
Charles/Hillis: 9 for 27 3

They gave up huge busted games to Bush and Doug Martin (Martins 250 yards really skew the stats). Oakland is bad, but lets not pretend that they don't have the ability to clamp down on a runner, pro bowl runners as a matter of fact.

WolfpackGuy · 12-07-2012, 05:17 AM

I have to say I'm starting to lighten up on the guy.

Great game despite Manny Ramirez getting repeatedly assraped while attempting to block air.

HorseHead · 12-07-2012, 05:29 AM

I still think he's (KM) getting his legs underneath him...

I loved the screen pass for 27 yards in the 1st...

Couple of days for the guys to rest up, heal the nicks up..feels good..bring on Edgar Allan Poe's favorite team...

fwf · 12-07-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Moreno finally has got his head into the game. Gone is the showboating & pulling himself out every other play. Yes the light has finally gone on for Knowshon Moreno and he will get better by the week, oh he will have the odd bad play and maybe even a bad game but he is on his way to being a go to back.

whats his contract situation?

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 06:07 AM

Best preformance to date by Moreno. He still is beyond slow, and trips over himself, but he ran hard, didnt fumble and played the best game of his life. Good for him.
Still gonna wait on signing him to another contract though.
I am really happy he didnt showboat too. Just the stupid, wave his hand over his head thing, but thats perfectly acceptable considering.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy

I have to say I'm starting to lighten up on the guy.

Great game despite Manny Ramirez getting repeatedly assraped while attempting to block air.

*Sighs*
This is why i keep preaching that DEN needs to address the O-line both in FA and in the draft.
Man, Ramirez sucks.

baja · 12-07-2012, 06:14 AM

Three sacks on Manning and Richard Seymour didn't even play is not a good sign.

Beantown Bronco · 12-07-2012, 06:21 AM

I hope nobody pulls a hammy jumping on the bandwagon.

CEH · 12-07-2012, 06:33 AM

Not good enough I as told that if Denver does not average 4.0 ypc that the running game cannot win for us in the playoffs

j/k of course KM ran hard when it mattered.

This is what I've been trying to get across. Stick with the run. Up until the 4th qtr KM averaged less that 3.0 ypc but it takes a pounding on the defense especially with the hurry up and those 2 yard runs in the first turn into 6 yard runs in the 4th

This is why Willis' injury hurt the team cause he has the build and experience to pound the rock for 30 +

I hope KM can continue his success. He took quite a pounding last night with 30+ carries

Get in that tub Knowshown we need you

gyldenlove · 12-07-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Three sacks on Manning and Richard Seymour didn't even play is not a good sign.

Not too bad, one was a clear blown blocking assignment by Ramirez, that happens with a backup lineman. One was Willis not adjusting his route to account for the all-out blitz, that happens with backup receivers and underscores just how important it is to have Thomas healthy. The last one was Manning slipping on the turf when he went to throw.

Clady did okay, Franklin had a few struggles when he was rushed wide, but seemed to adjust to it.

baja · 12-07-2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

Not too bad, one was a clear blown blocking assignment by Ramirez, that happens with a backup lineman. One was Willis not adjusting his route to account for the all-out blitz, that happens with backup receivers and underscores just how important it is to have Thomas healthy. The last one was Manning slipping on the turf when he went to throw.

Clady did okay, Franklin had a few struggles when he was rushed wide, but seemed to adjust to it.

This is the time of year when you need your back ups to not miss assignments because they are gonna play with starters dinged up. They are not going to be all world but they need to know their assignments.

Requiem · 12-07-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

This is the time of year when you need your back ups to not miss assignments because they are gonna play with starters dinged up. They are not going to be all world but they need to know their assignments.

Hey, lets talk about 12-12-12 through 12-21-12.

Smiling Assassin27 · 12-07-2012, 07:15 AM

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Moreno is averaging 24 carries, 91 rushing yards, and 29.3 receiving yards in three starts after Willis McGahee's season-ending injury.

You just can't argue with that. That's not spectacular but he's doing what the run game, absent an elite back in denver, has to do--create enough doubt in the defense that the play action is believable and effective. Overall, a good game by KM but the thing that still bothers me is that he's a liability in short yardage run plays. Defenses can cheat to pass defense because KM isn't enough of a threat to commit everyone up.

He ain't ever gonna be considered a guy who can break a long one but he's the best we've got and, assuming he stays healthy, can contribute.

Br0nc0Buster · 12-07-2012, 07:18 AM

Maybe he will stick around next year afterall

Thing I like the most is he isnt fumbling like Willis was

Pretty good game
Stepping up when called on
Not sure why he hasnt played before Willis got hurt though
Kind of wierd to just all of a sudden have him go from 4th string to bell cow

Gutless Drunk · 12-07-2012, 07:21 AM

Rock Chalk · 12-07-2012, 07:31 AM

Moreno's performance was well, average.

32 carries for 119 yards is 3.7 ypc. That's very average.

BUT

On the last drive, Moreno was called upon to get first downs and keep the ball out of the raiders hands to kill the clock. And he came through.

2nd and 20? Draw play for 16 yards.

3rd and 1, first down for 2 yards.

This is also at the point in the game when the Raiders KNEW we were going to run. KNEW it and Moreno stepped up and got us enough yards to keep moving the chains.

Blocking up front was very sporadic throughout the game as well. On at least 4 of his 32 carries, the line had gotten blown up before he ever had a chance.

He still missed some holes, but he is running strong and in the clutch, when we needed him to move the chains, he did so.

Anyone bagging on that can eat a bag of *****.

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12-07-2012, 01:37 AM	#128
Action Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 884 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Oh yeah, let me also add that the 167 Yards Moreno had were the most yards from scrimmage anyone from the Broncos backfield this year. Yeah, that means McGahee hasn't gotten this many yards in a game this year.

12-07-2012, 03:08 AM	#130
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,155	Never dreamed I'd see Moreno with 32 carries in a game. Didn't throw a shoe. Didn't fumble. Didn't get gassed or gimped. Actually finished strong. And this transformation happened while he was supposedly on the practice squad? More likely:

12-07-2012, 04:33 AM	#132
ozomulsion Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: The ladies man.	69 yards after contact. Good for 2nd most of any Bronco RB over the last 4 years.

12-07-2012, 05:01 AM	#133
fwf Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 478 Adopt-a-Bronco: Zane Beadles	He was awesome accept for a few blow assignments and being out of place a few time. I'm not ready to sign him to a long term contract tho. I want to see it play out before I make judgement. Hopefully we can get a lead in these last few games so were able to spell him and keep him fresh for the playoffs. Props again to the coaches. They kept this kid around and the benching seem to lite a fire , one and two kept him fresh. He's running as hard as an undrafted rookie at his first practice.

12-07-2012, 05:13 AM	#134
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Moreno finally has got his head into the game. Gone is the showboating & pulling himself out every other play. Yes the light has finally gone on for Knowshon Moreno and he will get better by the week, oh he will have the odd bad play and maybe even a bad game but he is on his way to being a go to back.

12-07-2012, 05:15 AM	#135
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	I love how people love to use the overall team statistics of the opponent with zero context for their argument. Oakland has a terribly ranked run defense for the season...but lets look at some of the individual performances against the raiders this year... T. Richardson: 20 carries 72 yards 3.6 R. Rice: 13 for 35 2.7 M. Turner: 11 for 33 3.3 R. Jennings/MJD: 22 for 50 2.3 Charles/Hillis: 9 for 27 3 They gave up huge busted games to Bush and Doug Martin (Martins 250 yards really skew the stats). Oakland is bad, but lets not pretend that they don't have the ability to clamp down on a runner, pro bowl runners as a matter of fact.

12-07-2012, 05:17 AM	#136
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	I have to say I'm starting to lighten up on the guy. Great game despite Manny Ramirez getting repeatedly assraped while attempting to block air.

12-07-2012, 05:29 AM	#137
HorseHead Ring of Famer Stay thirsty my friends.. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,212 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bay Bay	I still think he's (KM) getting his legs underneath him... I loved the screen pass for 27 yards in the 1st... Couple of days for the guys to rest up, heal the nicks up..feels good..bring on Edgar Allan Poe's favorite team...

12-07-2012, 06:07 AM	#139
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,212	Best preformance to date by Moreno. He still is beyond slow, and trips over himself, but he ran hard, didnt fumble and played the best game of his life. Good for him. Still gonna wait on signing him to another contract though. I am really happy he didnt showboat too. Just the stupid, wave his hand over his head thing, but thats perfectly acceptable considering.

12-07-2012, 06:14 AM	#141
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Three sacks on Manning and Richard Seymour didn't even play is not a good sign.

12-07-2012, 06:21 AM	#142
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,043 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	I hope nobody pulls a hammy jumping on the bandwagon.

12-07-2012, 06:33 AM	#143
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,211	Not good enough I as told that if Denver does not average 4.0 ypc that the running game cannot win for us in the playoffs j/k of course KM ran hard when it mattered. This is what I've been trying to get across. Stick with the run. Up until the 4th qtr KM averaged less that 3.0 ypc but it takes a pounding on the defense especially with the hurry up and those 2 yard runs in the first turn into 6 yard runs in the 4th This is why Willis' injury hurt the team cause he has the build and experience to pound the rock for 30 + I hope KM can continue his success. He took quite a pounding last night with 30+ carries Get in that tub Knowshown we need you

12-07-2012, 07:18 AM	#148
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,434	Maybe he will stick around next year afterall Thing I like the most is he isnt fumbling like Willis was Pretty good game Stepping up when called on Not sure why he hasnt played before Willis got hurt though Kind of wierd to just all of a sudden have him go from 4th string to bell cow

12-07-2012, 07:21 AM	#149
Gutless Drunk Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 928 Adopt-a-Bronco: None

12-07-2012, 07:31 AM	#150
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Moreno's performance was well, average. 32 carries for 119 yards is 3.7 ypc. That's very average. BUT On the last drive, Moreno was called upon to get first downs and keep the ball out of the raiders hands to kill the clock. And he came through. 2nd and 20? Draw play for 16 yards. 3rd and 1, first down for 2 yards. This is also at the point in the game when the Raiders KNEW we were going to run. KNEW it and Moreno stepped up and got us enough yards to keep moving the chains. Blocking up front was very sporadic throughout the game as well. On at least 4 of his 32 carries, the line had gotten blown up before he ever had a chance. He still missed some holes, but he is running strong and in the clutch, when we needed him to move the chains, he did so. Anyone bagging on that can eat a bag of *****.