Moreno stepped his game up - Page 14 - The Orange Mane

ozomulsion · 12-07-2012, 04:32 AM

He had 69 yards after contact

Good for 2nd most of any Bronco RB over the last 4 years. Via NFL Network. Not too bad.

Edit: Charlie Casserle was just talking about what Moreno brings to the table. Said he's not explosive, steady back, will make the right cut and get the yards that are there. Something pretty close to that, anyway. Almost spot on, but he ended his statement with "A guy I still really like is Lance Ball, he may be the best back they have"

Good for a chuckle.

2KBack · 12-07-2012, 04:54 AM

This wasn't just a 32 carry carry game....Moreno also had 4 catches for 48 yards. Moreno had 36 touches for 168 yards.....or 39% of the total offensive output for the game.

bowtown · 12-07-2012, 04:56 AM

Meh, would have considered his performance better had he been drafted by Elway rather than McD. He needs to work on that.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 05:41 AM

Best preformance to date by Moreno. He still is beyond slow, and trips over himself, but he ran hard, didnt fumble and played the best game of his life. Good for him.

Beantown Bronco · 12-07-2012, 06:15 AM

He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

Rabb · 12-07-2012, 06:17 AM

I don't know what else people would ask of him after yesterday. Was happy to see him play well.

baja · 12-07-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

Maybe we should dig up the season wins prediction threads, I'll bet the same yahoos complaining about Moreno and anything less than perfection were the same guys predicting 7 to 9 wins.

Requiem · 12-07-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

Hardly. Knowshon was performing on this team before Tim Tebow was ever even on it and people still dogged him.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

Dude its like his brain tells his feet to go one way, and his feet go the other.
Its really weird. He just cant seem to run for more than 5 feet without tripping over himself. I think its because he doesnt run with his knees, he runs with his feet low to the ground. They dont come very far off the ground when he takes a step. Also, i noticed that his shoes didnt come off, and there was a few close ups of him on the ground and i want to say his shoes were really taped up. Like they addressed the issue cause they knew he was gonna run alot. He needs to do this every game.
He did hold onto the ball, and you could see that he made every bit of effort upon contact to put 2 hands on the ball. I was very happy to see that he has allowed some coaching in this area of his game. Very glad he didnt put the ball on the ground. The fade were really going for the strip in the scrum at times, and he kept his head down, fell forward, and protected the football.
Finally.
He finally came out and played a complete game, didnt fumble, pushed the pile, ran hard, fell forward every time he was tackled, blocked well (Ramirez didnt help him there!) and did his job. Finally.
Now he needs to do this every game, and i will never complain about him again.

Rabb · 12-07-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Now he needs to do this every game, and i will never complain about him again.

And I think that's fair, just use the same measuring stick for the other backs because Willis was no saint when it came to fumbling this season.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

And I think that's fair, just use the same measuring stick for the other backs because Willis was no saint when it came to fumbling this season.

And i complained about Willis' fumbling.

baja · 12-07-2012, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Dude its like his brain tells his feet to go one way, and his feet go the other.
Its really weird. He just cant seem to run for more than 5 feet without tripping over himself. I think its because he doesnt run with his knees, he runs with his feet low to the ground. They dont come very far off the ground when he takes a step. Also, i noticed that his shoes didnt come off, and there was a few close ups of him on the ground and i want to say his shoes were really taped up. Like they addressed the issue cause they knew he was gonna run alot. He needs to do this every game.
He did hold onto the ball, and you could see that he made every bit of effort upon contact to put 2 hands on the ball. I was very happy to see that he has allowed some coaching in this area of his game. Very glad he didnt put the ball on the ground. The fade were really going for the strip in the scrum at times, and he kept his head down, fell forward, and protected the football.
Finally.
He finally came out and played a complete game, didnt fumble, pushed the pile, ran hard, fell forward every time he was tackled, blocked well (Ramirez didnt help him there!) and did his job. Finally.
Now he needs to do this every game, and i will never complain about him again.

OK that's fair enough but remember every player has a bad game once and a while even Peyton Manning.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

OK that's fair enough but remember every player has a bad game once and a while even Peyton Manning.

Slowshon starts playing like Peyton week in and week out, and he can have a pass here and there.

Requiem · 12-07-2012, 06:57 AM

BroncoBeavis · 12-07-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Hardly. Knowshon was performing on this team before Tim Tebow was ever even on it and people still dogged him.

Were people really dogging KM in 2009?

montrose · 12-07-2012, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Meh, would have considered his performance better had he been drafted by Elway rather than McD. He needs to work on that.

End thread.

TonyR · 12-07-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

He still is beyond slow...

I don't think he's "slow". It sometimes takes him too long to make a decision, find and/or pick a crease, and get moving forward. But he's not slow. Did you see his 26 yard catch and run early in the 1st quarter? If that was "slow" then you must have had your dvr in slow motion!

TonyR · 12-07-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

Meh, would have considered his performance better had he been drafted by Elway rather than McD. He needs to work on that.

Agree, although people have finally let up on DT and he suffers from the same disease. Many people were calling for his head earlier this season. But I guess being a top 5 WR helps him immensely in this department.

socalorado · 12-07-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I don't think he's "slow". It sometimes takes him too long to make a decision, find and/or pick a crease, and get moving forward. But he's not slow. Did you see his 26 yard catch and run early in the 1st quarter? If that was "slow" then you must have had your dvr in slow motion!

Slowshon is slow. That is all.

Drek · 12-07-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I don't think he's "slow". It sometimes takes him too long to make a decision, find and/or pick a crease, and get moving forward. But he's not slow. Did you see his 26 yard catch and run early in the 1st quarter? If that was "slow" then you must have had your dvr in slow motion!

Indecisiveness has always been Moreno's biggest issue. He wasn't ready for NFL speed and was used to his lateral agility and acceleration being enough to fake out collegiate competition. He's built the body (gained 18 pounds) to transition those tools to the NFL over the last couple seasons, now he's starting to learn how to actually run in this new style.

I've been saying for a while that the two backs I most compare Moreno to, even back at the draft, were Tiki Barber and Thomas Jones. Barber didn't put it together until year 4 and didn't really fix his fumble issues until year 8. Thomas Jones didn't put it together until year 5, stepping it up again in year 6. Both guys added weight on their way to those seasons, and both had to learn a lot about what they could actually get away with athletically in the NFL versus college.

El Guapo · 12-07-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ozomulsion

That's "basically" a pretty poor translation of what was said.

That's what happens when your basically 5 beers in and trying to watch post-game interviews.

Cito Pelon · 12-07-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Best preformance to date by Moreno. He still is beyond slow, and trips over himself, but he ran hard, didnt fumble and played the best game of his life. Good for him.

Aha! Now I remember who it was that said Moreno had "fake stats". It was you! "Fake stats", that was a good laugh.

bpc · 12-07-2012, 09:38 AM

Knowshon does not have great skills. I wouldn't even say he is a good player. He's serviceable though... and we need him. I think if he can get comfortable putting his shoulder down and gaining 4 yds a carry instead of dancing, jumping, etc, while catching 4-5 passes a game keeping the defense honest in the flats, he can stretch out his career with Manning a few more years.

razorwire77 · 12-07-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

Funny how he has sort of filled the Tebow hater/hugger void.

Chris · 12-07-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunk idiot kicker

You can remember into the future. That's pretty cool.

Damnit ban on family references kills back to the future rebuttal

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12-07-2012, 04:32 AM	#326
ozomulsion Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: The ladies man.	He had 69 yards after contact Good for 2nd most of any Bronco RB over the last 4 years. Via NFL Network. Not too bad. Edit: Charlie Casserle was just talking about what Moreno brings to the table. Said he's not explosive, steady back, will make the right cut and get the yards that are there. Something pretty close to that, anyway. Almost spot on, but he ended his statement with "A guy I still really like is Lance Ball, he may be the best back they have" Good for a chuckle.

12-07-2012, 04:54 AM	#327
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,283	This wasn't just a 32 carry carry game....Moreno also had 4 catches for 48 yards. Moreno had 36 touches for 168 yards.....or 39% of the total offensive output for the game.

12-07-2012, 04:56 AM	#328
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,356 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	Meh, would have considered his performance better had he been drafted by Elway rather than McD. He needs to work on that.

12-07-2012, 05:41 AM	#329
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,221	Best preformance to date by Moreno. He still is beyond slow, and trips over himself, but he ran hard, didnt fumble and played the best game of his life. Good for him.

12-07-2012, 06:15 AM	#330
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,119 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	He's the new Tebow. There are some that will never be able to praise him, even for one day after a great game, without getting in a series of digs.

12-07-2012, 06:17 AM	#331
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,312 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I don't know what else people would ask of him after yesterday. Was happy to see him play well.

12-07-2012, 06:57 AM	#339
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12-07-2012, 09:38 AM	#348
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Knowshon does not have great skills. I wouldn't even say he is a good player. He's serviceable though... and we need him. I think if he can get comfortable putting his shoulder down and gaining 4 yds a carry instead of dancing, jumping, etc, while catching 4-5 passes a game keeping the defense honest in the flats, he can stretch out his career with Manning a few more years.