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yerner · 12-03-2012, 05:56 PM

I feel bad for the Tampa players. You know they don't want to do this dumb stuff. They're forced to by their idiot head coach and have their jobs on the line.

jmz313 · 12-03-2012, 06:06 PM

Its professional football. Tampa does this, figure out a way to negate it... Isn't that what sports are? Beating the other team at what they do?

Protect the players by playing hard for 60 minutes not 59:20.

Broncobiv · 12-03-2012, 06:15 PM

Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.

Bacchus · 12-03-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncobiv

Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.

Well, they wouldn't be uncovered there would be in single coverage on wide receivers. Has anyone thought about what would happen if Manning dropped back to pass and a Defensive player bursts through the line untouched forcing Manning to fumble. Then the defensive player picks it up and runs it in for a TD? Has anyone talked about that yet?

sinuous sausage · 12-03-2012, 08:12 PM

Tampa's goal in all this is to prevent the victory formation from ever occurring. Jedi mind tricks with Bey Bey and PFM doing snap reads of the defense and goofing off with the football are exactly what the Bucs want.

Sciano is gambling. He'll risk losing by a wider margin if it means there is a chance he can force an error from the offense. He's basically said "run the score up on me if you can." I think teams start obliging in the near future.

Agamemnon · 12-03-2012, 08:21 PM

People defending this stupidity are dip****s. That is all.

sinuous sausage · 12-03-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

People defending this stupidity are dip****s. That is all.

Reality is the man has and will continue to pull the maneuver and said maneuver is within the rules of the game. I think bubble screens are stupid and intellectually indefensible, but I also think teams should face the fact they exist.

That One Guy · 12-03-2012, 08:47 PM

Also, the NFL has said they have no issues with this occurring so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere. God forbid it ever succeeds, though, or it'll be the next icing the kicker fad.

Irish Stout · 12-04-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncobiv

Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.

That was mentioned twice on the first page. I think its a genius idea to have DT in the backfield and if the team does this just have many jump back with the ball and drop it off to a DT who is going long.

Beantown Bronco · 12-04-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish Stout

That was mentioned twice on the first page.

He was being sarcastic.

Broncobiv · 12-04-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

He was being sarcastic.

Especially considering it was also mentioned at least once on every other page after the first, too!

cabronco · 12-04-2012, 04:52 PM

Even makes me more mad that we let off the gas on this TB coach. Should have run the score up on them, instead of letting our gassed defense go back out on the field w/ quick 3 and outs.

That One Guy · 12-04-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cabronco

Even makes me more mad that we let off the gas on this TB coach. Should have run the score up on them, instead of letting our gassed defense go back out on the field w/ quick 3 and outs.

Well I read somewhere that they were selectively resting players because of the quick turnaround for Thursday's game. Better to play it safe in that case, if true.

Rocket 7 · 12-04-2012, 10:18 PM

Do what Buddy Ryan did

Missouribronc · 12-04-2012, 10:27 PM

The pistol formation solves all of this dumb crap.

StugotsIII · 12-04-2012, 10:43 PM

The game is 60 minutes last time I checked…and the game wasn't over.

I have no problem with them trying to cause a turnover.

Swedish Extrovert · 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

Some people aren't as interested in this as me (I understand). However the Schiano kneel down antics deserve a little analysis. I found this sped up "three stooges version" of the kneel down play. It's kind of ineresting to analyze.

It looks like we did game plan for this (as we should have), but it also doesn't look like Tampa Bay has the right strategy. I would be going for the ball/snapping arm, but it looks like their theory is to knock the Center back into the QB.

Anyone ever seen this type of play work, even in college? It just looks like they were trying to be "punitive" rather than really getting a good shot at a turnover. Maybe, by having both our Guards dive in we just took the play away. Anyway, thought it was worth a look or three.

Tom Nalen was talking about this on ESPN radio... he basically said that the strategy is to push the center back into the QB, and he said if he were facing off against Schiano's Bucs, he would tell his guards "do whatever it takes - within or outside of the rules to keep their lineman off me."

dekers · 12-04-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

I would try a fake kneel down to see if I could get a cheap TD if they did it more than once.

i would do the same thing, kinda like you want to play to the end ok here you go

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12-03-2012, 05:56 PM	#101
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,305	I feel bad for the Tampa players. You know they don't want to do this dumb stuff. They're forced to by their idiot head coach and have their jobs on the line.

12-03-2012, 06:06 PM	#102
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	Its professional football. Tampa does this, figure out a way to negate it... Isn't that what sports are? Beating the other team at what they do? Protect the players by playing hard for 60 minutes not 59:20.

12-03-2012, 06:15 PM	#103
Broncobiv Tee many martoonis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,267	Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.

12-03-2012, 08:12 PM	#105
sinuous sausage Pro Bowler Raging against the Céliné Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dallas Posts: 579	Tampa's goal in all this is to prevent the victory formation from ever occurring. Jedi mind tricks with Bey Bey and PFM doing snap reads of the defense and goofing off with the football are exactly what the Bucs want. Sciano is gambling. He'll risk losing by a wider margin if it means there is a chance he can force an error from the offense. He's basically said "run the score up on me if you can." I think teams start obliging in the near future.

12-03-2012, 08:21 PM	#106
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,459 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	People defending this stupidity are dip****s. That is all.

12-03-2012, 08:47 PM	#108
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Also, the NFL has said they have no issues with this occurring so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere. God forbid it ever succeeds, though, or it'll be the next icing the kicker fad.

12-04-2012, 04:52 PM	#112
cabronco Fish & Chips PFM Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So.Cal. Posts: 5,469 Adopt-a-Bronco: wth happened	Even makes me more mad that we let off the gas on this TB coach. Should have run the score up on them, instead of letting our gassed defense go back out on the field w/ quick 3 and outs.

12-04-2012, 10:18 PM	#114
Rocket 7 Formerly known as Dipso Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 4,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Smith 70	Do what Buddy Ryan did

12-04-2012, 10:27 PM	#115
Missouribronc Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,529 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The pistol formation solves all of this dumb crap.

12-04-2012, 10:43 PM	#116
StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,251 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	The game is 60 minutes last time I checked…and the game wasn't over. I have no problem with them trying to cause a turnover.