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Old 12-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #101
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I feel bad for the Tampa players. You know they don't want to do this dumb stuff. They're forced to by their idiot head coach and have their jobs on the line.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:06 PM   #102
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Its professional football. Tampa does this, figure out a way to negate it... Isn't that what sports are? Beating the other team at what they do?

Protect the players by playing hard for 60 minutes not 59:20.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:15 PM   #103
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Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:20 PM   #104
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Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.
Well, they wouldn't be uncovered there would be in single coverage on wide receivers. Has anyone thought about what would happen if Manning dropped back to pass and a Defensive player bursts through the line untouched forcing Manning to fumble. Then the defensive player picks it up and runs it in for a TD? Has anyone talked about that yet?
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:12 PM   #105
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Tampa's goal in all this is to prevent the victory formation from ever occurring. Jedi mind tricks with Bey Bey and PFM doing snap reads of the defense and goofing off with the football are exactly what the Bucs want.

Sciano is gambling. He'll risk losing by a wider margin if it means there is a chance he can force an error from the offense. He's basically said "run the score up on me if you can." I think teams start obliging in the near future.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:21 PM   #106
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People defending this stupidity are dip****s. That is all.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:26 PM   #107
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People defending this stupidity are dip****s. That is all.
Reality is the man has and will continue to pull the maneuver and said maneuver is within the rules of the game. I think bubble screens are stupid and intellectually indefensible, but I also think teams should face the fact they exist.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:47 PM   #108
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Also, the NFL has said they have no issues with this occurring so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere. God forbid it ever succeeds, though, or it'll be the next icing the kicker fad.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:56 AM   #109
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Just read through the whole thread and one thing is still unclear...has anyone thought to simply pass it deep for an easy, uncovered TD? That would show 'em.
That was mentioned twice on the first page. I think its a genius idea to have DT in the backfield and if the team does this just have many jump back with the ball and drop it off to a DT who is going long.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:25 AM   #110
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That was mentioned twice on the first page.
He was being sarcastic.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:23 PM   #111
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He was being sarcastic.


Especially considering it was also mentioned at least once on every other page after the first, too!
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:52 PM   #112
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Even makes me more mad that we let off the gas on this TB coach. Should have run the score up on them, instead of letting our gassed defense go back out on the field w/ quick 3 and outs.
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Even makes me more mad that we let off the gas on this TB coach. Should have run the score up on them, instead of letting our gassed defense go back out on the field w/ quick 3 and outs.
Well I read somewhere that they were selectively resting players because of the quick turnaround for Thursday's game. Better to play it safe in that case, if true.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:18 PM   #114
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Do what Buddy Ryan did

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:27 PM   #115
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The pistol formation solves all of this dumb crap.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:43 PM   #116
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The game is 60 minutes last time I checked…and the game wasn't over.


I have no problem with them trying to cause a turnover.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM   #117
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Some people aren't as interested in this as me (I understand). However the Schiano kneel down antics deserve a little analysis. I found this sped up "three stooges version" of the kneel down play. It's kind of ineresting to analyze.

It looks like we did game plan for this (as we should have), but it also doesn't look like Tampa Bay has the right strategy. I would be going for the ball/snapping arm, but it looks like their theory is to knock the Center back into the QB.

Anyone ever seen this type of play work, even in college? It just looks like they were trying to be "punitive" rather than really getting a good shot at a turnover. Maybe, by having both our Guards dive in we just took the play away. Anyway, thought it was worth a look or three.

Tom Nalen was talking about this on ESPN radio... he basically said that the strategy is to push the center back into the QB, and he said if he were facing off against Schiano's Bucs, he would tell his guards "do whatever it takes - within or outside of the rules to keep their lineman off me."
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:22 PM   #118
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I would try a fake kneel down to see if I could get a cheap TD if they did it more than once.
i would do the same thing, kinda like you want to play to the end ok here you go
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