Moreno stepped his game up - Page 10 - The Orange Mane

Beantown Bronco · 12-02-2012, 05:24 AM

I love how that one TD against the Raiders has all of a sudden turned into "every run of more than 2 yards". You haters really need to quit it with the myth spreading.

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-02-2012, 07:13 AM

I see him rollin. I'm hatin.

DENVERDUI55 · 12-02-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I love how that one TD against the Raiders has all of a sudden turned into "every run of more than 2 yards". You haters really need to quit it with the myth spreading.

You don't get rep for stupid dancing by doing it one time. I don't mind his ass dancing in endzone as long as its not in worst home loss in history.

Beantown Bronco · 12-02-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

You don't get rep for stupid dancing by doing it one time.

Please. It's a Mane specialty.

Heyneck · 12-02-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

You don't get rep for stupid dancing by doing it one time. I don't mind his ass dancing in endzone as long as its not in worst home loss in history.

Why not? It's still a game, one that only KM seem to care for. The team folded after the first qtr. Why take offense by a player showing passion for what he is doing while the rest of the team is sulking up thinking probably about the next season? I would be way more offended by the attitude of the rest of the team that that of KM like somebody else stated in this thread.

errand · 12-02-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

Elway in th SB and and KM getting a first down?

Both were 45 point losses clown....only one was on the biggest stage in the world.

I'd argue that losing 55-10 in the SB is worse than getting beat 59-14 at home in a regular season game....only Broncos and Raiders fans remember that raping.....but the entire NFL watching world remembers the SB stomping.

steeledude · 12-02-2012, 03:50 PM

Hey guys just got in to watch the game--how is Moreno looking today?

Schism · 12-02-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by steeledude

Hey guys just got in to watch the game--how is Moreno looking today?

He's doing fine in my opinion.

As long as he doesn't fumble the ball and can pick up over 4 yards a carry that's more than good enough, keep the defenses honest and hopefully give Manning some opportunities of play action.

We haven't missed McGahee at all so far IMO, which has been a very pleasant surprise to me.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 12-02-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by steeledude

Hey guys just got in to watch the game--how is Moreno looking today?

He lost a shoe early.

Nwp-Apap · 12-02-2012, 04:24 PM

He did well today, especially when you consider he ran against the #1 rush defense in terms of both total yardage, and YPC.

errand · 12-02-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwp-Apap

He did well today, especially when you consider he ran against the #1 rush defense in terms of both total yardage, and YPC.

20 carries for 69 yards 3.5 avg......and had 14 yards receiving too. 83 total yards...not bad considering the Bucs D played pretty damn good for most of the game.

R8R H8R · 12-02-2012, 04:49 PM

Moreno did exactly what we needed him to do. Despite the dropped pass, lost shoe, and the occasional dance, he put his head down, didn't fumble, and got some tough yards against an excellent run defense.

As long as he can stay healthy, I will have no worries going forward.

razorwire77 · 12-02-2012, 04:49 PM

Moreno earned another start. Was he great? No. However he ran hard between the tackles, kept his pad level low and grinded out some tough yards. He also had a nice 3rd down catch from a seated position, one of the better individual efforts of the day. The kid just doesn't have dynamic abilities in space or above average acceleration and he probably never will; but we've gotta keep going with him. He's basically Sammy Winder only with better hands. I do think that they need to get Hillman more than 5 touches, but once again you saw Manning grabbing him by the arm and rag dolling him around so he knew where to line up.

Drek · 12-03-2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by errand

20 carries for 69 yards 3.5 avg......and had 14 yards receiving too. 83 total yards...not bad considering the Bucs D played pretty damn good for most of the game.

And that includes 5 carries for 4 yards when we were basically just running out the clock and Tampa's D was ready to stop the run on every play. He would have met his 4.2-4.3 YPC average if it wasn't for the junk time stats.

He's doing his job on the ground, grinding out positive yardage. He's solid in pass pro and makes a great escape valve for Manning. We'll have to see if the consistent playing time he should receive going forward will be enough for the light to fully click on and for him to break some bigger games.

2KBack · 12-03-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Drek

And that includes 5 carries for 4 yards when we were basically just running out the clock and Tampa's D was ready to stop the run on every play. He would have met his 4.2-4.3 YPC average if it wasn't for the junk time stats.

He's doing his job on the ground, grinding out positive yardage. He's solid in pass pro and makes a great escape valve for Manning. We'll have to see if the consistent playing time he should receive going forward will be enough for the light to fully click on and for him to break some bigger games.

If the middle of our O-line wasn't so Charmin soft, All the RB's would look much better. There was a defensive player in the backfield on at least half the attempted runs.

rmsanger · 12-03-2012, 05:59 AM

He looks ok! Nothing special and certainly not a former first rounder. He may be on the level of Mark Ingram when all said and done.

Drek · 12-03-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rmsanger

He looks ok! Nothing special and certainly not a former first rounder. He may be on the level of Mark Ingram when all said and done.

You mean former first rounder Mark Ingram?

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

If the middle of our O-line wasn't so Charmin soft, All the RB's would look much better. There was a defensive player in the backfield on at least half the attempted runs.

Is what it is, the OL is still overall pretty young and Kuper is still likely not 100%. The fact is, they pass block damn well and that is more important.

Moreno right now is doing exactly what he's supposed to with our OL. Minimize losses when the OL does allow a jailbreak into the backfield and take the openings you're given for consistent positive yardage. Other than that step up in pass pro when needed and keep at it on every other pass play as Manning's safety net.

I think there is a good chance we're going to see Moreno only get stronger with more time as the starter. Tampa Bay has an outstanding front seven when it comes to stopping the run and Moreno was respectable against them all day. There's a big game waiting in the wings if he stays healthy and keeps up his new found focus. I'm just hoping we see it in a game that counts, not against the Raiders or Browns.

Beantown Bronco · 12-03-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Drek

Other than that step up in pass pro when needed and keep at it on every other pass play as Manning's safety net.

This is something that the haters will never acknowledge. They'll make fun of every little thing that happens once a game when he runs the ball (loses a shoe or trips), but will never give credit for his blitz pickup and protection. He did A TON of this yesterday. I lost count of how many times he absolutely stoned guys coming free at Manning from completely the other side of where Moreno was lined up. He recognizes every blitz and always picks up the right guy. You can't put a price tag on that, especially with our QB.

Drek · 12-03-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

This is something that the haters will never acknowledge. They'll make fun of every little thing that happens once a game when he runs the ball (loses a shoe or trips), but will never give credit for his blitz pickup and protection. He did A TON of this yesterday. I lost count of how many times he absolutely stoned guys coming free at Manning from completely the other side of where Moreno was lined up. He recognizes every blitz and always picks up the right guy. You can't put a price tag on that, especially with our QB.

The extra weight he's put on over the course of 2011 and 2012 has definitely helped there. Moreno used to always make the right reads but would occasionally just get overwhelmed by a LB. Now he's a bit bigger and is a lot tougher when setting a block.

2KBack · 12-03-2012, 06:49 AM

Mark Ingram wishes he was on Moreno's level in the pros. Moreno will have almost tripled Ingram's production in their first two seasons.

baja · 12-03-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

This is something that the haters will never acknowledge. They'll make fun of every little thing that happens once a game when he runs the ball (loses a shoe or trips), but will never give credit for his blitz pickup and protection. He did A TON of this yesterday. I lost count of how many times he absolutely stoned guys coming free at Manning from completely the other side of where Moreno was lined up. He recognizes every blitz and always picks up the right guy. You can't put a price tag on that, especially with our QB.

The whole slipping and loosing a shoe thing would seem easy to fix by wearing high top shoes with different cleats.

Heyneck · 12-03-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drek

The extra weight he's put on over the course of 2011 and 2012 has definitely helped there. Moreno used to always make the right reads but would occasionally just get overwhelmed by a LB. Now he's a bit bigger and is a lot tougher when setting a block.

Don't worry about it dude. People will come around and realize Moreno is heavily involved in the game plan and producing. He hasn't gotten back to back 20 carry games by mistake. How many of those did Willis have this year in all his starts? 3 in 11 games.Let them think about that for a second.

Beantown Bronco · 12-03-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

The whole slipping and loosing a shoe thing would seem easy to fix by wearing high top shoes with different cleats.

It's got to be a personal comfort thing. Some guys, like Eddie Mac, needed to wear shoes that were 2-3 sizes too small or he didn't feel right. Knowshon for whatever personal reason clearly prefers shoes that fit on the looser side.

baja · 12-03-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

It's got to be a personal comfort thing. Some guys, like Eddie Mac, needed to wear shoes that were 2-3 sizes too small or he didn't feel right. Knowshon for whatever personal reason clearly prefers shoes that fit on the looser side.

The Bronco trainers should really have him consult with a shoe expert. Obviously the slips are costly but so are the losing the shoe thing. He has to come out for a play sometimes at inopportune times to reshoe.

Personal preference is fine but when it starts to cost production it needs to be changed.

Requiem · 12-03-2012, 08:14 AM

Maybe you guys should just change what kind of shoes he wears on Madden. I go with a high cut Nike on my left foot, a low cut generic on my right.

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12-02-2012, 05:24 AM	#226
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,045 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	I love how that one TD against the Raiders has all of a sudden turned into "every run of more than 2 yards". You haters really need to quit it with the myth spreading.

12-02-2012, 07:13 AM	#227
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,622 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	I see him rollin. I'm hatin.

12-02-2012, 03:50 PM	#232
steeledude Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hey guys just got in to watch the game--how is Moreno looking today?

12-02-2012, 04:24 PM	#235
Nwp-Apap Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 186 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He did well today, especially when you consider he ran against the #1 rush defense in terms of both total yardage, and YPC.

12-02-2012, 04:49 PM	#237
R8R H8R Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,595 Adopt-a-Bronco: Virgil Green	Moreno did exactly what we needed him to do. Despite the dropped pass, lost shoe, and the occasional dance, he put his head down, didn't fumble, and got some tough yards against an excellent run defense. As long as he can stay healthy, I will have no worries going forward.

12-02-2012, 04:49 PM	#238
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Flash Thomas	Moreno earned another start. Was he great? No. However he ran hard between the tackles, kept his pad level low and grinded out some tough yards. He also had a nice 3rd down catch from a seated position, one of the better individual efforts of the day. The kid just doesn't have dynamic abilities in space or above average acceleration and he probably never will; but we've gotta keep going with him. He's basically Sammy Winder only with better hands. I do think that they need to get Hillman more than 5 touches, but once again you saw Manning grabbing him by the arm and rag dolling him around so he knew where to line up.

12-03-2012, 05:59 AM	#241
rmsanger Ring of Famer Another one bites the dust! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,056 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He looks ok! Nothing special and certainly not a former first rounder. He may be on the level of Mark Ingram when all said and done.

12-03-2012, 06:49 AM	#245
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	Mark Ingram wishes he was on Moreno's level in the pros. Moreno will have almost tripled Ingram's production in their first two seasons.

12-03-2012, 08:14 AM	#250
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Maybe you guys should just change what kind of shoes he wears on Madden. I go with a high cut Nike on my left foot, a low cut generic on my right.