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Old 12-01-2012, 01:59 PM   #51
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With FA you should draft BPA imo
IMO BPA is almost the best your can go for IF your team is not riddled with loads of holes.

If you are drafting 1-10 you take best guy at a position of need IF there is one worthy of it in that area.

You don not IMO spend a top ten pick on a safety, RB, TE or OL. While positions of importance there are usually other players after ten worth those picks.

If you look at NE in particular they find loads of quality talent in rounds 2-3. Maybe not all pro types but real close, and if your loaded with almost all pros you go farther than a super stud and three other ok guys.. You are much more consistent long term and frankly can afford to keep most if not all of them down the road.

You do not take a RG3 or Luck if you have Manning in his prime, just because they are BPA. You go for good quality at another spot that you may need help.

One thing we have never really done in DEN was dedicate a top pick every second or third year to replenishing LOS players. If you have good to great players there almost everyone behind them are better.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:19 PM   #52
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**** that,you draft the player worthy of a top 10 pick. if he ain't worth it, trade down.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:04 PM   #53
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It seems we are just about at the point of being able to pick BPA, even though we have a couple of weak spots on the team.

Unfortunately we got away from doing so after we drafted both Wilson and Pryce since then not many player we took were worth keepin for a second contract.
There is no such thing as drafting BPA throughout a draft... It's a myth, teams take BPA AT POSITION OF NEED. Nobody and I mean nobody takes BPA throughout the draft. There's always picks allocated for need taking their perceived BPA.

If free agency is used to address need then you can somewhat take BPA. But even then your thinking about contracts, player age, performance, scheme fit, and so many other things.. Where ur taking BPA but again it's based on need, just future and not immediate.
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There is no such thing as drafting BPA throughout a draft... It's a myth, teams take BPA AT POSITION OF NEED. Nobody and I mean nobody takes BPA throughout the draft. There's always picks allocated for need taking their perceived BPA.

If free agency is used to address need then you can somewhat take BPA. But even then your thinking about contracts, player age, performance, scheme fit, and so many other things.. Where ur taking BPA but again it's based on need, just future and not immediate.
I disagree that it can't be done. Most teams are not in the postion to do so.

But once you have a good to great base of players and have few if any holes then you can go after best player. Mikey did it with Wilson and Pryce they did not have a big hole at either spot but had the ability to take seen that could push for a starting spot.

We are almost at that point where it can be done. Do we have weak spots sure but few players taken late in the draft are going to be able to start year one.

I think John has done a terrific job in plugging holes the past two years. Now it looks like MLB and maybe DT need help and after that loads of backup spots to be filled.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:37 AM   #55
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I disagree that it can't be done. Most teams are not in the postion to do so.

But once you have a good to great base of players and have few if any holes then you can go after best player. Mikey did it with Wilson and Pryce they did not have a big hole at either spot but had the ability to take seen that could push for a starting spot.

We are almost at that point where it can be done. Do we have weak spots sure but few players taken late in the draft are going to be able to start year one.

I think John has done a terrific job in plugging holes the past two years. Now it looks like MLB and maybe DT need help and after that loads of backup spots to be filled.
I am in partial agreement that BPA picks do happen, I said throughout a teams entire draft it does not happen, and usually even though you suspect it wasn't a position of need, their is long term reasoning for selecting such player. Not to mention every team has their own perception and ranking of a player so how do we even judge on BPA..? What McShay and Kiper say are BPA? I'm just curious what the standard for BPA is?

I really really enjoy the draft, follow so many players coming out, and every year I see team after team take BPA at the position in which they have a need. Sure in the first few rounds teams may truly take the BPA because he fell to their waiting pick cause teams draft for need. But I don't think I have ever seen a team draft BPA throughout the entire draft.

I also agree that MLB, DT, RB..? are areas of need. Another WR, CB, S, and OL depth couldn't hurt. So if three of the picks go to areas of need we aren't following BPA. But there are loads of quality defensive players in this draft, and I would suspect the 2014 draft will resemble more of BPA and that's because their shouldn't be any gapping holes, and selected players should address depth and competition at such position, which I think is a more accurate gage of selecting BPA... But I still think ultimately a BPA draft is a perfect storm. A team needs lots of young quality players, which eliminates many variables, player age, contract, scheme fit, performance, and so on. And frankly a good GM is always thinking about those things or he wouldn't be a good GM.. Which is why I think an entire draft taking BPA is a myth..
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