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Old 12-01-2012, 12:54 PM   #201
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The same. As Bronco fan, I would've hoped they would schedule a makeup game somehow, but this is just a game. It's not nearly as important as people seem to think.
I agree on this. People are more important than a job, entertainment, or money. They need to take care of each other. If that means cancelling or forfeiting I would understand. That also goes for if it was any other team that this happened too, regardless of position and standing.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:57 PM   #202
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The depths of this tragedy are exceeded only by the douchebaggery of a handful of posters.

Way to show true colors - leaving no doubt.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:12 PM   #203
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Wow I just saw this. Very sad for his Girl friends family and Belcher's family. You want to take your own life that is one thing but to kill a 22 mother is beyond reproach.

I feel the most for the child who will grow up without a parent.

Senseless. Totally senseless.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:20 PM   #204
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Really don't see the purpose of forcing two terrible teams to play a game immediately after this type of tragedy. Again, we're not talking the AFC championship here. Realistically, how many people are going to be at Arrowhead for this game? 45K? There's a certain amount of humanity in the workplace that should trump short term profit. I can't think of any profession that wouldn't allow for the grieving process.
It would impact the draft more than anything.

The only time I saw games not being played were natural disasters and after September 11'th. We were to go to the Denver vs Colts game and had to reschedule the whole trip until later in the year.

It is more important for Carolina and the teams that would impact Carolina's draft order more than for kc.

There will be guys that want to play and guys that don't I think the best thing would be a makeup game on Wildcard week and just play it for draft status. They wouldn't have to televise it outside of the 2 markets or show it on the current network as an early game on Saturdays when they usually don't start until 2pm Central.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:31 PM   #205
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I like the idea of making it up Wildcard weekend.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:34 PM   #206
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According to the KC media, after a meeting between league officials, the coaching staff and the team captains, they decided to go ahead and play tomorrow.

If that's their choice, I fully support it. It's up to them to know what they can handle and what they can't.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:38 PM   #207
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Hopefully, the team captains were able to take a team vote. If they did and the majority wanted to play, that's good. As long as it's not being dictated by the Gingernozzle.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:43 PM   #208
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It's been a hard day here in KC. Needless to say, there's not any concern about football right now, just disbelief and a lack of understanding about what could drive any person to do such a horrible thing. Lots of praying and concern around here.

I can't imagine how long it'll take for things to get anything close to normal again.

And I'm glad to see the people behind a rivalry like ours pull together at a time like this and focus on what's most important.

And thanks to the Mods for giving that clown a week off. Good call... The rest of you folks are awesome.. We'll go back to jawing some time in the future...
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:45 PM   #209
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According to the KC media, after a meeting between league officials, the coaching staff and the team captains, they decided to go ahead and play tomorrow.

If that's their choice, I fully support it. It's up to them to know what they can handle and what they can't.
I think that's the right choice and the right way to handle it.
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It's been a hard day here in KC. Needless to say, there's not any concern about football right now, just disbelief and a lack of understanding about what could drive any person to do such a horrible thing. Lots of praying and concern around here.

I can't imagine how long it'll take for things to get anything close to normal again.

And I'm glad to see the people behind a rivalry like ours pull together at a time like this and focus on what's most important.

And thanks to the Mods for giving that clown a week off. Good call... The rest of you folks are awesome.. We'll go back to jawing some time in the future...
It sucks when things like this happen. It highlights the realities that we all get pretty obsessive over a game. What makes it so difficult, is it's not like you can cast the guy like a fallen hero (start the game with 10 on defense) or something like that. The guy was a murderer. Honestly, I'm not sure how you'd handle something like this. Not exactly in the PR handbook, or even in the Life handbook, if there is such a thing.

I hate the Chiefs franchise from a rooting standpoint, but I'd never wish this on anybody or any franchise. Reports are saying that Pioli is really torn up about this. Regardless of what Chief fans think about the job he's done, hopefully, people will root for the team to win this game and let the chips fall where they may.
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It's been a hard day here in KC. Needless to say, there's not any concern about football right now, just disbelief and a lack of understanding about what could drive any person to do such a horrible thing. Lots of praying and concern around here.

I can't imagine how long it'll take for things to get anything close to normal again.

And I'm glad to see the people behind a rivalry like ours pull together at a time like this and focus on what's most important.

And thanks to the Mods for giving that clown a week off. Good call... The rest of you folks are awesome.. We'll go back to jawing some time in the future...
You are a phony. Your avatar says "die in a fire a-holes". Tell us how you REALLY feel.
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It's obvious because it's the only explanation for why the guy did what he did. A mentally healthy person doesn't murder his girlfriend and then go and kill himself in front of his bosses. Come on now.
Yep Aga, you would think that should go without saying!
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According to the KC media, after a meeting between league officials, the coaching staff and the team captains, they decided to go ahead and play tomorrow.

If that's their choice, I fully support it. It's up to them to know what they can handle and what they can't.
Yeah from looking at the picture it seemed like a beautiful family. No matter how much I don't like the chiefs football team, I would never wish anything that like this on anybody. Because let's be real, football is only a game. After they take off their jerseys, these are people with emotions, lives, and families. My heart really does go out to them. And I wish them luck with the game, but I don't know how they can play after what just happened.
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What a disgusting post...
You shouldn't entertain Internet cowards who hide behind their keyboards. I know he wouldn't say anything like that to their faces.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:05 PM   #216
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It sucks when things like this happen. It highlights the realities that we all get pretty obsessive over a game. What makes it so difficult, is it's not like you can cast the guy like a fallen hero (start the game with 10 on defense) or something like that. The guy was a murderer. Honestly, I'm not sure how you'd handle something like this. Not exactly in the PR handbook, or even in the Life handbook, if there is such a thing.

I hate the Chiefs franchise from a rooting standpoint, but I'd never wish this on anybody or any franchise. Reports are saying that Pioli is really torn up about this. Regardless of what Chief fans think about the job he's done, hopefully, people will root for the team to win this game and let the chips fall where they may.
At this point, with regard to JB, we're all questioning why, but not much past that. Our hearts are broken for the baby who's left behind, the mother who was in the house at the time and the people who had to see it (and we've been VERY critical of them before this). As for JB, we're mostly mad. Whatever we are in KC, we're not OK with a coward, and what he did is cowardly at best. He's very selfish, and he had many other choices.. So not much sympathy for JB, but plenty for the others around him.

And you're right, these are the tings that highlight how much we put on a game. I wish there were other ways to allow us to reflect on life outside of church and regular prayer.

I coach football, baseball and wrestling, and I see, especially in wrestling, a pressure put on young people that's almost unbearable for them. And I always ask the parents (who apply much of the pressure) and the kids to reflect on what's more important than "this" (whatever sport it is). I wonder if JB had enough of those talks? Perspective is everything! I recall having one of my wrestlers lose at State as he broke his arm, and him just saying he wanted to die. It was a "WOW" moment for me. He was good, very well could have won that match and been on the top of the podium, but it didn't happen.

So I'll ask all of us to reflect on what's most important, and it's not our rivalry. Think of family, the men and women serving, and those caring for those who serve...
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The thing is, this game has zero consequences for anybody's potential playoff picture as far as I can tell. If there is ever a game to cancel that no one will really miss, this one ought to fit that bill as far as I can tell?

It seems clear the Chiefs are gonna get the number 1 draft pick regardless of the outcome of this game tomorrow.
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You shouldn't entertain Internet cowards who hide behind their keyboards. I know he wouldn't say anything like that to their faces.
That's bad enough it should be reported to authorities.
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The thing is, this game has zero consequences for anybody's potential playoff picture as far as I can tell. If there is ever a game to cancel that no one will really miss, this one ought to fit that bill as far as I can tell?

It seems clear the Chiefs are gonna get the number 1 draft pick regardless of the outcome of this game tomorrow.
I agree, but with Carolina, they could pick anywhere from top 5 to number 11 or 12 depending on tiebreakers and what not. Winning or losing is a big deal for them and their fans.
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Just saw the vid of them hauling Javon Belchers $230,000 Bentley away from Arrowhead this afternoon.. I hope to heavens this selfish dude had the wherewithall and decency to at least have a proper will drawn up in case he kicked the bucket where his young daughter will get the proceeds from that classy ride and anyother assets he might have accumulated?!

Though for an undrafted FA to be buying a Bentley after only 4 years in the league might imply he was running though his cash at a very fast pace?? Maybe he was just leasing it ... still that's a big chunk of change and not the smartest move by an UDFA this early still in his career.
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They should play the game, but if any Chief player or coach wants to sit out, they should be able to without penalty or loss of pay. Everybody handles this sh_t differently.
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Murder suicide in Casper Wy on FRIDAY. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...-during-class/

I think it's important to note that this type of thing happens in our society daily. We only seem to show compassion/anger when it's so public. It's easy to say this is someone else's problem. The thing is it can happen to anyone.

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Murder suicide in Casper Wy. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...-during-class/

I think it's important to note that this type of thing happens in our society daily. We only seem to show compassion/anger when it's so public. This is a problem.
Who is this "we" you speak of. Maybe you should speak for yourself, cause you're not speaking for me.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:47 PM   #224
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Just saw the vid of them hauling Javon Belchers $230,000 Bentley away from Arrowhead this afternoon.. I hope to heavens this selfish dude had the wherewithall and decency to at least have a proper will drawn up in case he kicked the bucket where his young daughter will get the proceeds from that classy ride and anyother assets he might have accumulated?!

Though for an undrafted FA to be buying a Bentley after only 4 years in the league might imply he was running though his cash at a very fast pace?? Maybe he was just leasing it ... still that's a big chunk of change and not the smartest move by an UDFA this early still in his career.
He signed a 1 year contract worth $1.97 million to play in 2012. So his first three years were at league minimum, which is much more than what he made at what I assume was the league minimum, which increases year after year and would have paid him around $500,000 in his third year.

His house was very modest compared to his choice in vehicle. I would hope that he had some money for his daughter....... I would hope. Luckily he qualified for NFL pension after playing the third game this season, in his fourth year. From what I understand you have to play, be inactive on the roster, or on PUP to for a minimum of three games to count for a season and you have to be in league 4 years to qualify.

So I would imagine she would get his pension benefits too.
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wtf are people losing their sanity now.
i hope yalls dont go defending this pos who murdered his gf like the wwf fans defended Chris Benoit when he went nuts and killed his whole family.
killing your self is tragic enough murdering innocent people is another.
im sorry for the woman who was murdered by that pos and the baby who is left with out parents
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