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Old 11-28-2012, 07:03 PM   #51
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I think we would only be liable for his base this year, pro-rated.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-r...lando-mcclain/

If so its something less than 300K for this year. That alone is worth it for the Raider game insight. If he doesnt work out, cut him at the end of the year. If he does, make him rework his contract next year (6.675).

His major roster bonus of $12M has already been paid.
In that case I don't see him reaching us on the waiver wire.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:20 PM   #52
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lol at the token "sign him" when a first rounder gets cut

McClain is garbage, not to mention is dumber than a box of rocks

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Old 11-28-2012, 07:22 PM   #53
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Many people thought he was great fit for the 3-4 we were running. We don't run a 3-4 anymore.
I know they run a 4-3 this year, but what did the Raiders run last year? Because he put up pretty good numbers.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:24 PM   #54
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Many people thought he was great fit for the 3-4 we were running. We don't run a 3-4 anymore.
We were at the time. He was a Mlb they thought could play in any defense as evidenced by a 4-3 team picking him. He was a great college LB. Was decent his first year. The chemistry with that team seems to be amiss
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:59 PM   #55
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We were at the time. He was a Mlb they thought could play in any defense as evidenced by a 4-3 team picking him. He was a great college LB. Was decent his first year. The chemistry with that team seems to be amiss
He doesn't have the speed and athleticism I personally prefer in a 4-3 MLB. The Raiders thought his other traits would make up for that apparently. I do think that he has the talent to be a solid 4-3 MLB, I just don't think it's the best fit for him.
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Well... he and DJ would probably get along.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:15 AM   #57
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:40 AM   #58
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I think he is worse then Mays.
Are you insane. Joe Mays is the worst line backer in the nfl. He misses tackles, can't cover, he can't even rush the passer. You notice how much better the d is playing without him. Brooking is older and may not have the skill set as other lbs but he keeps the d alinged correctly. Mays could not run the more complicated defenses. Mcclain is more talented than both. He is faster, taller, longer and does not miss tackles. He is pretty good in coverage (14 deflections last year) mays (0). He can run complicated defenses. It is hard to run anything at oakland. come on guys it is the raiders. Dennis Allen was an ok d coordinator but Mcclain could florish under Del Rio. Plus there is no risk. He will not cost a lot, he could be released at the end of the year or he could be a great line backer with players and coaches around him. I like Brooking but what happens if he gets hurt.
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Are you insane. Joe Mays is the worst line backer in the nfl. He misses tackles, can't cover, he can't even rush the passer. You notice how much better the d is playing without him. Brooking is older and may not have the skill set as other lbs but he keeps the d alinged correctly. Mays could not run the more complicated defenses. Mcclain is more talented than both. He is faster, taller, longer and does not miss tackles. He is pretty good in coverage (14 deflections last year) mays (0). He can run complicated defenses. It is hard to run anything at oakland. come on guys it is the raiders. Dennis Allen was an ok d coordinator but Mcclain could florish under Del Rio. Plus there is no risk. He will not cost a lot, he could be released at the end of the year or he could be a great line backer with players and coaches around him. I like Brooking but what happens if he gets hurt.
Trouble is there will be a lot of teams looking at it this way.

Maybe we should just trade for him and ask him to restructure next year.

The idea of getting him intrigues me.
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The idea of getting him intrigues me.
It should. Along with RB the position is probably our biggest weakness. But the odds of it happening are probably extremely low.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:22 PM   #61
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It should. Along with RB the position is probably our biggest weakness. But the odds of it happening are probably extremely low.
That's what so intriguing the fact the position is such a glaring need.

Maybe they need a fullback or a 5th round pick since he's going to be released anyway.

Maybe we should just trade for him.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:54 PM   #62
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Are you insane. Joe Mays is the worst line backer in the nfl. He misses tackles, can't cover, he can't even rush the passer. You notice how much better the d is playing without him. Brooking is older and may not have the skill set as other lbs but he keeps the d alinged correctly. Mays could not run the more complicated defenses. Mcclain is more talented than both. He is faster, taller, longer and does not miss tackles. He is pretty good in coverage (14 deflections last year) mays (0). He can run complicated defenses. It is hard to run anything at oakland. come on guys it is the raiders. Dennis Allen was an ok d coordinator but Mcclain could florish under Del Rio. Plus there is no risk. He will not cost a lot, he could be released at the end of the year or he could be a great line backer with players and coaches around him. I like Brooking but what happens if he gets hurt.
Everything you said about Mays is word for word that Raiders fans say about McClain. If McClain is so good at covering then why is he taken off the field on passing downs?
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Everything you said about Mays is word for word that Raiders fans say about McClain. If McClain is so good at covering then why is he taken off the field on passing downs?
Sure would like to know the real story on this guy.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:03 PM   #65
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Trouble is there will be a lot of teams looking at it this way.

Maybe we should just trade for him and ask him to restructure next year.

The idea of getting him intrigues me.
There's this thing called the trade deadline.
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he is a ****ing moron. that's the issue and the Raiders are actually trying to fix their public image.
So is this stating he is an Orangemane poster
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So is this stating he is an Orangemane poster
Speak for yourself.
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There's this thing called the trade deadline.
Oh ya forgot about that little detail.
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Sure would like to know the real story on this guy.
I don't know. Maybe he was a case of so much good talent around him at Alabama and now he is being exposed. Maybe it is because he was on the Raiders and they ruin players. All I know is that everything I have seen the fans of the guy say makes me think that if we played the Pats and they went no huddle to keep him on the field it would be like Joe Mays all over again. Nothing I read about him let me to believe this is a surprise move at all to the Raiders fans.
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...9&postcount=12
This was 24 days ago. I kind of started to notice how much the Raiders fans wanted McClain off the roster around that time.

As I said before if JDR and Fox think he is worth the chance then do it. I think we have players we can cut and give the roster spot too as well.
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Yeah you didnt want manning either... soo..
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Well, after reading this my interest has dropped dramatically...

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Well, after reading this my interest has dropped dramatically...

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Why do people think the NFL is better when teams like the raiders are relavant?

I want to see those losers in their costumes leave dejectedly in the 3rd quarter just like the kFc fans do. It is fun dominating the division and getting everything right while 2 teams are going to be shopping for HC's and at least one for a new GM, meanwhile the raiders keep trying to rebuild. I don't think Allen has the tools or experience to turn it around. I think he will one day be a very good coach, just not anytime soon.

All I care about is that the Broncos are winning games and have a legit shot at a SB.
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Why do people think the NFL is better when teams like the raiders are relavant?

I want to see those losers in their costumes leave dejectedly in the 3rd quarter just like the kFc fans do. It is fun dominating the division and getting everything right while 2 teams are going to be shopping for HC's and at least one for a new GM, meanwhile the raiders keep trying to rebuild. I don't think Allen has the tools or experience to turn it around. I think he will one day be a very good coach, just not anytime soon.

All I care about is that the Broncos are winning games and have a legit shot at a SB.
The key in OAK is they have to take second or third tier talent for coaches becaus of the interference form the owners box. No self respecting qualified coach would take the grief.
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The key in OAK is they have to take second or third tier talent for coaches becaus of the interference form the owners box. No self respecting qualified coach would take the grief.
That's not true anymore, Al's dead.
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