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Old 11-26-2012, 01:29 PM   #126
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i was not surprised at his production.

Anyone suprised that he even took this role? Quite odd coming all the way up the depth chart to start a game.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:40 PM   #127
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Moreno is 218
he was a few seasons ago but he lost weight to regain quickness.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:19 PM   #128
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He knows this is his last chance, and he's rising to the occasion...
Aside from an embarrassing carry early in the game where he tripped over his own feet, he did a solid job. He ran north and south and was more decisive than he had been in the past. And, yes, he did seem to get religion where protecting the ball is concerned.

But it was only one game. Im not convinced it will hold up but you can always hope for the sake of this season.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:30 PM   #129
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Anyone else notice the turf monster ate Moreno's shoes again? That silly turf monster...
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:32 PM   #130
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I've been a Knowshow skeptic in the past, but now I'm cheering for the guy. He seemed super-conscious of following blocks this week. Maybe to a fault on a few plays. But at least he seems to be realizing the old KM wasn't working so he's trying something different.

I think if he starts to think strategically instead of relying purely on instinct (as he has in the past), he might be able to turn a corner.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:44 PM   #131
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Moreno ran with a bit more power at the end of his runs yesterday too...

I'm really hoping he plays well.

Odd that people on here want to see him fail, which would also mean that it would hinder the Broncos as a team...
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #132
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Anyone else notice the turf monster ate Moreno's shoes again? That silly turf monster...
That b**** tripped him a few times too. Moreno and Decker are starting petitions to be sure all turf monsters have been eradicated before gametime.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #133
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I still say he's the worst. Should still be cut.
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Then you did not watch the game very closely, or you were not exactly sober. Knowshon made the most of every touch, and played as well as anyone could have hoped for. If any RB has that type of game every game, for a season, he's a pro bowler. It was a good game.
This is true. Knowshon played at a Pro Bowl level - for that game, at least.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:07 PM   #135
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Aside from an embarrassing carry early in the game where he tripped over his own feet, he did a solid job. He ran north and south and was more decisive than he had been in the past. And, yes, he did seem to get religion where protecting the ball is concerned.

But it was only one game. Im not convinced it will hold up but you can always hope for the sake of this season.
I know everyone is saying he tripped on his own feet, and it kinda looked that way... but after several replays, Dierdorf was pretty sure it was Kupers lower leg he tripped over.
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This is true. Knowshon played at a Pro Bowl level - for that game, at least.
we need to string together consistent games though.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:41 PM   #137
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he was a few seasons ago but he lost weight to regain quickness.
The opposite, actually. Started out at 205 in 2009, lost 5 lbs in 2010 doing crossfit for quickness to 200, went up to 210 when Fox was hired because Fox preferred thicker backs, and put on 8 more lbs since he tore his ACL and throughout this offseason, focusing on keeping the acquired speed from prior cuts and increasing strength and power. With the way he ran up the middle and through clutter yesterday, I'd say it works for him fairly well.
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we need to string together consistent games though.
I agree.

If he replicates that game, or does better, throughout each remaining game this season and playoffs..do we keep him as the starter for next year?
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I'm very proud of KM, as he did just what I thought he'd do. It's too bad those last 2 carries into a stacked box took away his 5.5 YPC before that. Even when the best RBs in the NFL bring their A game against the bucs, they still don't do very well. I just hope people don't jump all over his ass if his statistics aren't great next week.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #140
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Apologies if it has been explained previously..where is Knowshon contractually?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:25 PM   #141
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Patience to allow the holes to develop was one of Moreno's weaknesses. I was incredibly excited to see him run with patience like that. His biggest gains came from allowing the play to develop.
He's been watching Willis
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The opposite, actually. Started out at 205 in 2009, lost 5 lbs in 2010 doing crossfit for quickness to 200, went up to 210 when Fox was hired because Fox preferred thicker backs, and put on 8 more lbs since he tore his ACL and throughout this offseason, focusing on keeping the acquired speed from prior cuts and increasing strength and power. With the way he ran up the middle and through clutter yesterday, I'd say it works for him fairly well.
Moreno himself said he played at 208-212 during his first two Broncos seasons. he slimmed down to 200 in 2011 and Fox's first season was in 2011 and he was 200 lbs as of July 2011. when did he suddenly gain 18 lbs?
every media outlet and even his own website lists him as 200 lbs.

if he did and i missed it my bad. but i don't remember reading anything about him gaining weight to play at a career high.

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Apologies if it has been explained previously..where is Knowshon contractually?
Due $1.7mil next year, then the team has the option to keep him or cut him at no cost for 2014. If they keep him it's >$5million for that year.

So, in theory, the only way he's back next year is if he indisputably solidifies the #1 or #2 RB spot these next few weeks, and the only way he's back in 2014 at that price is if he solidifies himself as an above average #1 RB.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:06 PM   #144
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This is how OMane myths are created. One person says it. Another repeats it. Soon, it spreads like ebola.

I know right? There were no huge holes opened up....I'm think he might have been watching the Broncos game while watching xhamster too.....
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Just got a glimpse into why Knowshown may have been inactive for so long

Joel Dreesen on his radio show just said "Knowshown look good in practice all week and "did it right"

I take that to mean he has had trouble practicing correctly. Hoping he can keep up the good work
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Moreno himself said he played at 208-212 during his first two Broncos seasons. he slimmed down to 200 in 2011 and Fox's first season was in 2011 and he was 200 lbs as of July 2011. when did he suddenly gain 18 lbs?
every media outlet and even his own website lists him as 200 lbs.

if he did and i missed it my bad. but i don't remember reading anything about him gaining weight to play at a career high.
He definitely looks much bigger right now than at any other point in his career. I'm not sure how people could miss it honestly. It's pretty obvious.
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Just got a glimpse into why Knowshown may have been inactive for so long

Joel Dreesen on his radio show just said "Knowshown look good in practice all week and "did it right"

I take that to mean he has had trouble practicing correctly. Hoping he can keep up the good work
He was won the practice player of the week award several times according to staff this season.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:47 PM   #148
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Moreno himself said he played at 208-212 during his first two Broncos seasons. he slimmed down to 200 in 2011 and Fox's first season was in 2011 and he was 200 lbs as of July 2011. when did he suddenly gain 18 lbs?
every media outlet and even his own website lists him as 200 lbs.

if he did and i missed it my bad. but i don't remember reading anything about him gaining weight to play at a career high.
http://walterfootball.com/pro2009kmoreno.php

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2009&genpos=rb

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MoreKn00.htm

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...orical/1114939

All these places had/have him at 207-217

It's really hard to trust these things....any of them. I mean I doubt any of them have changed (including on the broncos site, or ESPN) since his rookie year...and there is a almost 20lb fluxuation
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:40 PM   #149
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I know everyone is saying he tripped on his own feet, and it kinda looked that way... but after several replays, Dierdorf was pretty sure it was Kupers lower leg he tripped over.
Agree, I recall that as well, although I was thinking he said Beadles.
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He definitely looks much bigger right now than at any other point in his career. I'm not sure how people could miss it honestly. It's pretty obvious.
muscle mass isn't the same as pure weight. he doesn't look that much bigger, just more defined and stronger.
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