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Old 11-26-2012, 10:44 AM   #26
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Kubes still runs it pretty often, and Shanahan has gone back to it with Griffin and it's been great for them.
indeed, Carolina does it with Cam from time to time but not nearly as often as Shanny with RGIII.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:48 AM   #27
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1. Elway
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4. Everyone else

hmmm. ..
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:50 AM   #28
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1) Elway
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:58 AM   #29
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Manning, in 11 games, has already virtually locked us into a playoff spot.

Cutler, in 3 seasons, never made the playoffs. This can't be held fully against him (I tend to think he is a very good QB, just look how terrible Chicago is without him), but the fact remains that his Bronco contributions were very minimal. Diabetes awareness maybe?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #30
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I always had a soft spot for Plummer, he was such a sandlot QB, the Ben Roethlisberger of his day without the rapeyness. He was never the best athlete, never the best arm, never the most cerebral QB, never the greatest leader but he was a gamer through and through and he loved what he did. Plummer is one of the few guys I can honestly say I believe never did it for the money, he did it for the love of the game.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #31
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I always had a soft spot for Plummer, he was such a sandlot QB, the Ben Roethlisberger of his day without the rapeyness. He was never the best athlete, never the best arm, never the most cerebral QB, never the greatest leader but he was a gamer through and through and he loved what he did. Plummer is one of the few guys I can honestly say I believe never did it for the money, he did it for the love of the game.

even though he was in the Heisman race 2nd IIRC that year, he said he really had never given any thought of playing in the NFL..

He also said that getting paid for doing something he'd normally do for free was funny to him..

he drove boxy old honda, wore jeans and t shirt dated the cheerleader and was a millionaire.. how many on this forum would have loved to have that life..

every time they needed money for ca space he agreed to a new contract always getting the up front money and stashing it in the bank opposed to getting bling..

so when it was time to walk away he could a rich man..

the ultimate gamer..
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:30 AM   #32
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even though he was in the Heisman race 2nd IIRC that year, he said he really had never given any thought of playing in the NFL..

He also said that getting paid for doing something he'd normally do for free was funny to him..

he drove boxy old honda, wore jeans and t shirt dated the cheerleader and was a millionaire.. how many on this forum would have loved to have that life..

every time they needed money for ca space he agreed to a new contract always getting the up front money and stashing it in the bank opposed to getting bling..

so when it was time to walk away he could a rich man..

the ultimate gamer..
and that's how a NFL player who makes a ton of money during his playing career should go out.
still loaded and set for life. if you can retire at 33 to play handball or golf then you did what you were supposed to do with your money.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:39 AM   #33
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Found this on Reddit today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/sp...e-he-left.html

"His mind drifted back to Colorado, where his wife had family. Their return was clinched when he spotted a house for sale within 10 minutes of the most pristine outdoor handball courts in the state. A few weeks after the move, Plummer attended the Broncos’ season opener against the Steelers by himself, with a ticket given to him by the Broncos’ owner, Pat Bowlen. When parachutists descended into the stadium for a pregame celebration, Plummer saw that the crowd was distracted. He left the owner’s box, walked down to the mezzanine and stood inside a walkway at the 45-yard line.

Plummer said fans did double-takes when they saw him. But as the game continued, he reminisced with longtime security guards, talked with a young fan whose parents had told him not to bother Plummer, high-fived a mascot and was treated to a few beers by fans who said they remembered him fondly.

Plummer later slipped down to the sideline to watch Manning and Roethlisberger, who had each ruined his postseason hopes. But Plummer did not dwell on that. He cheered on the Broncos’ defense, the way he used to as a player, when he wanted to get back out onto the field as quickly as possible.

After the Broncos won, 31-19, Plummer sat on a patch of grass outside and watched jubilant fans exit the stadium.

“I used to play a big part of that,” Plummer said. “Sending people out of the stadium ecstatic and full of energy.”


The article mentions (very) briefly that he might want to look at getting into television. I don't know how he'd do as an analyst, but I'd be interested to see. Couldn't be any worse than Trent Dilfer.

Anywho, I know there are many here that don't like him, but welcome back Jake!
I always liked Jake both as a man and as a player. Thought it was a huge mistake to bench him when we were 7 & 3. I understand when you think you got a chance to draft a franchise QB you do it but Jake should have have been assured he had the season as long as he was winning. The move divided the locker room and ruined Jake, as a result the season was a failure. Cutler needed to sit that year for his sake and the teams sake. Think it is very telling when Cutler said he was shocked when Shanny drafted him, you better know all you can about the guy when you are looking to him to be the face of the franchise for the next 15 years and Shanny never even talked to him.
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How in the world is Cutler ahead of Manning?
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:23 PM   #35
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REALLY miss the bootleg as well. Did anyone else catch San Fran utilizing it yesterday? Brought a shiver to me spine!
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:41 PM   #36
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How in the world is Cutler ahead of Manning?
Easy. If he put Cutler behind Manning, who will be leading us to the playoffs, then he has to admit Shanny isn't all that he is cracked up to be. Cutler gave us zero playoff appearances but can you blame the head coach? Nope. All on Pat Bowlen...according to SoCal.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:42 PM   #37
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5) Tebow BVP tie

Where is Morton in all this? Geez, forgotten history.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:52 PM   #38
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I've got him somewhere in the middle... Plummer had a few good times, a few bad times....

1. Elway
2. Tebow
3. Kubiak
4. Briscoe
5. Manning (rising up the list fast)
6. Plummer
7. Morton
8. Tripucka
9. Moore
10. Maddox
11. Griese
12. Cutler
13. Orton
No way Morton is 7 on that list! You have a backup as your 3rd best QB?

1) Elway
2) Morton
3) Manning (with a bullet)
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4) Cutler
4) SOB (mostly for the one good year he had)
4) Plummer (could be higher if he didn't quit like a loser)
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #39
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the problem with jake is he was a one trick pony like tebow as soon as teams saw he only does the bootleg or roll out whatever it was called when you take the ball roll to your right and throw. maybe shanny should of came up with more plays . for jake unless jake could only do that and not just the drop back
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:46 PM   #40
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What do you mean how is he ahead of Manning? Cutler is my favorite offensive player n the entire NFL. That's how. I'm not saying he is better or worse than Manning but of all the Brobco QBs he is my 2nd favorite.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:03 PM   #41
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:10 PM   #42
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Jake stopped caring about football. That's what got him benched. He was a glorious game day QB. He was a terrible Wednesday-Friday QB.
Yup.

But nice to hear Bowlen gave him a ticket to a game and he came back to say hello. Jake was a different kind of guy from the get go. Nalen and the OL guys loved him, so that kind of paints the picture about Jake. Nalen absolutely hated Jay Cutler, still says so to this day.

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What do you mean how is he ahead of Manning? Cutler is my favorite offensive player n the entire NFL. That's how. I'm not saying he is better or worse than Manning but of all the Brobco QBs he is my 2nd favorite.


I love you, brother. You'll go to any length for a joke. Honestly, to keep this up this long is just epic.
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As for Jake, he was basically the 2nd winningest QB we've had and brought excitement back to Broncos football. He'll always be a favorite. Those were some fun years.

But, this year and the next couple should be even more fun.
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Cutler never led the broncos to the playoffs.
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Is it really time again for the annual "Complain to the media about how mean Shannahan was to me" tour? Wow, a year goes by so quickly.
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What do you mean how is he ahead of Manning? Cutler is my favorite offensive player n the entire NFL. That's how. I'm not saying he is better or worse than Manning but of all the Brobco QBs he is my 2nd favorite.
You and Tom Nalen would get into a big argument about that. Nalen has been on the radio for a couple years now here, and he makes no bones about his disdain for Jay Cutler. Dude makes no bones about it, I've heard him say "Well, his name starts with an "A" to me, I won't finish that, but you know what I mean."
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Is it really time again for the annual "Complain to the media about how mean Shannahan was to me" tour? Wow, a year goes by so quickly.
Can you believe that Shanahan made Plummer focus in practice?
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you guys are on (legalized) drugs.

1 Elway
2 Morton
3 Plummer
4 Tripuka
5 Manning and rising
5a. Tebow
6 Griese
7 Orton
8 Kubiak
9 who cares? deBerg?
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