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Old 11-25-2012, 02:13 AM   #26
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You pick on a business that is low skill, discount retailer, then blame them for poor people not making enough money. I just don't get that. I know some young paralegals with 2 yrs school, 1 full yr interning at a law office or for PD, or DA etc, that only make 14 bucks an hour. it's a tough job and you have to be smart. Eventually you can make 40-45 grand with rare exceptions at super big firms. Most of those paralegals though are law school graduates that could not pass the bar and just give up.

Seriously though you have a lot of stress for that 14-20 bucks an hour. 8-9 bucks is fair for a walmart job. In fact its more then fair.
WalMart is being subsidized directly and indirectly by Federal dollars. This is called corporate welfare. That means our tax dollars are being spent to perpetuate how Walmart does business.

Corporate welfare and corporate greed was my point. If you look at the problem from the grocery store bagger you'll never get what I am talking about.
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What a bunch of BS trying to call someone out for some grammar BS. It's BS because when its a poster you like Roh you don't do that. Two faced much?
Yep a lot of that goes on here.

The "professors" seem to belittle as a pack of wolves would snapping, and back biting until they bring their prey down.

A really sad thing for folks that claim to have compassion in their hearts.

But it is what it is, just more Male Bovine Excretment. Since cliton the far left have have their attack dogs savaging anything but their agenda.

Keep up the good fight, do not let them cut you down.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:27 AM   #28
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Yep a lot of that goes on here.

The "professors" seem to belittle as a pack of wolves would snapping, and back biting until they bring their prey down.

A really sad thing for folks that claim to have compassion in their hearts.

But it is what it is, just more Male Bovine Excretment. Since cliton the far left have have their attack dogs savaging anything but their agenda.

Keep up the good fight, do not let them cut you down.
Geez. Lighten up. I was only kidding. It's a quote from Pulp Fiction. Anyway, you tell me what his sentence meant: fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they
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what tax credits do business get. would you people eliminate the one that gives tax breaks for vets handicapped ?
and i was thinking about walmart at least the one i go to its either young people or old people .
they seem to be happy working there thats the vibe i got and with jobs so hard to come by ,why not work at walmart ?
yet people think walmart is the gateway to hell .
again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution
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again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution
That would mean taking personal responsibility for the position one finds oneself in. Its easier to blame the man.

Walmart should not be subsidized, but you lefties on here b****ing and moaning about it isn't going to make them change, they make a lot of money, if it bothers you don't have anything to do with them, not sure what http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ will use more new material if that happens.

Until the workers say enough is enough, I'm not going to accept those conditions of employment, and it cant just be one or 2, it needs to be a good number of them, as long as most of them just go to work and take it, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

For the record Yes I have quit a job because I felt I was being taken advantage of, and no I didn't have another job lined up when I did it. When I went in and asked my boss for a raise, upon being denied I asked for a letter of reference because I was going to have to start looking for another job, his reply " sure ill do that, you wont leave tho, you'll be here forever" I will never forget those words, I handed in my letter of resignation the next day, didn't have anywhere to go, but i couldn't stay there, not under those conditions, but then I have some self respect.
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WalMart is being subsidized directly and indirectly by Federal dollars. This is called corporate welfare. That means our tax dollars are being spent to perpetuate how Walmart does business.

Corporate welfare and corporate greed was my point. If you look at the problem from the grocery store bagger you'll never get what I am talking about.
Ok so your problem is the govt doesn't get enough tax from them? What are the numbers on that. As in what did walmart pay in corp tax last yr?

I don't see walmart paying all the much lower then what kmart or sears does to start off do they? I would think a discount store would be a place for entry level, or part time work for someone who had another part time job.

I think 8 bucks an hour about right for the skill level. Maybe you need HS diploma at most.

Whatever tax breaks they get I am really not up on. But I am sure they are all legal. So I am sure other companies use the same ones right?

I'm really wondering what you want Walmart to do? Just go union? make less money? They have a minimum wage to indicate the pay for the lowest of skilled jobs. Those are like discount retail, fast food, restaurant work, etc etc.

Really this just another witchhunt. You don't cry about corp welfare for auto industry. hell we bailed them out a lot more then Walmart will ever get. Same with all the unemployment extensions for union construction people on welfare who the unions couldn't keep on the job somewhere. So union not exactly some we don't need the govt entity. And they dont insure you get to work either. A lot of the time they put business under with demands.
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Walmart employs so many people and those that hate that company would like nothing better than to see them closed with an economy already hurting for jobs.
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That would mean taking personal responsibility for the position one finds oneself in. Its easier to blame the man.

Walmart should not be subsidized, but you lefties on here b****ing and moaning about it isn't going to make them change, they make a lot of money, if it bothers you don't have anything to do with them, not sure what http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ will use more new material if that happens.

Until the workers say enough is enough, I'm not going to accept those conditions of employment, and it cant just be one or 2, it needs to be a good number of them, as long as most of them just go to work and take it, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

For the record Yes I have quit a job because I felt I was being taken advantage of, and no I didn't have another job lined up when I did it. When I went in and asked my boss for a raise, upon being denied I asked for a letter of reference because I was going to have to start looking for another job, his reply " sure ill do that, you wont leave tho, you'll be here forever" I will never forget those words, I handed in my letter of resignation the next day, didn't have anywhere to go, but i couldn't stay there, not under those conditions, but then I have some self respect.
Good for you. I got a job after getting out of the Navy, servicing cars at Avis RAC worked the night shift and it was not bad because I could watch the baby during the day when Momma went to work.

After a while though did much the same thing, started looking for jobs and had a couple offers, went in to talk to the manager to tell him I had them and would be giving notice, he offered to put me on the counter.. That started a career with them that ultimately led to being the station manager of the largest airport operation in the Avis world. Retired there after 20 plus years to get away from the rat race that it was.

So one can start small and move up if you have the will to work hard.

That said not everyone at Walmart is so motivated.
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again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution
And you're happy to go on paying for Wal-Mart's employees' food stamps so the billionaires you worship don't have to, right?

That makes SO much sense - especially from a conservative POV.
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FAIL… Only 50 Wal-Mart Employees Joined Nation-wide Union Protests
1,000 Walmart protests across the US

An update on nationwide strikes and solidarity demonstrations VIDEO

By Natasha Lennard

A Walmart press release this morning downplayed what commentators have called historic strike actions by Walmart workers this Black Friday across the United States.

The release noted that “the same number of associates missed their scheduled shift as last year,” but hundreds of protests in 46 states beginning Thursday evening have drawn attention to the retailer’s poor labor practices while according to The Nation, workers struck at stores in Dallas, Kenosha, Wis., San Leandro, Calif., and Clovis, N.M. At least one worker went out on strike at stores in Ocean City, Md., Orlando and Baton Rouge.

Rep.-elect Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) joined a Walmart worker as she walked off her job in St. Cloud.

Walmart stores rang up almost 10 million transactions from the time doors opened for Black Friday shoppers at 8 p.m. Thursday until midnight. Meanwhile the following strikes and protest actions have been reported:
  • Dozens of protesters supported strikers in Miami when they walked off the job last night.
  • 500 workers and supporters marched on a Walmart in Landover, MD.
  • Striking Chicago workers and their supporters marched on several Walmart stores in Illinois beginning at 5:30 a.m. Friday morning.
  • Striking workers in Duarte, Calif. formed a picket lined up in front of their store.
  • In Florida, U.S. Rep.-elect Alan Grayson walked a worker off her job Thursday night and then joined workers on the picket line Friday morning.
  • Dozens protested with striking workers in San Leandro, Calif.
  • Workers in Clovis and Albuquerque in New Mexico, walked off the job.
  • In Lancaster, Texas, Dallas police ushered strikers off of Walmart property, but they continued their protest nearby.
  • The walkout in Kenosha, Wisc. was amplified by a light show last night. And workers are now on strike in Milwaukee, Wisc.
  • In Quincy, Mass. supporters projected a 30-foot “Stand Up, Live Better” message on facade of a Walmart supercenter. They distributed 650 flyers, 500 sets of handwarmers, and 300 “I support Walmart workers’ rights!” stickers to customers waiting in line, along with thank you cards for Associates.
  • A civil disobedience took place in Paramount, outside Los Angeles, noted Josh Eidelsonat the Nation: “Organizers say 1,500 workers and supporters are demonstrating against retaliation. Nine people have been arrested for sitting in the street on Lakewood Boulevard, including three striking Walmart retail workers from area stores: Charlene Fletcher and William Fletcher from Duarte, and Martha Sellers from Paramount.”

Eidelson posted this video of protesters demonstrating inside a Maryland store:



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Holy Cow Walmart has 2.1 million employees. Mutha that is a lot of employees. So LABF and the liberal press say 1000. Walmart says way less current employees. So lets just play it safe and take that 1000 and double it. Make it 2000.

out of 2.1 million employees that isn't near enough to go union.

No wonder that union is sniffing around. They won't be able to get much more per hour for them but get just 100 a yr in dues and look at all that jack.

Amazing liberals dont see this for what it is. Unions should be protecting higher skilled workers like brick layers, drywallers, electricians, welders etc. This going after low skill retail is a joke.
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And you're happy to go on paying for Wal-Mart's employees' food stamps so the billionaires you worship don't have to, right?

That makes SO much sense - especially from a conservative POV.
again if YOU And OTHER PEOPLE DONT LIKE WALMART then DONT SHOP WALMART
DONT WORK FOR WALMART
im going to shop at walmart, dollar tree ,entertainment mart, burger king McDonald , wendy's , jack in the box , ebay , any other place i want to IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THATS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE !
BUT I WILL NOT BUY PETS FROM PLACES THAT BUY FROM PUPPY MILLS
IE PET CITY rest of you can but i wont ,i either get my pets from animal shelters or private individuals or orgs that rescue unwanted pets like this lil fellow i adopted

im shure he will make a fine family pet
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what good are union dues ?
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Holy Cow Walmart has 2.1 million employees. Mutha that is a lot of employees. So LABF and the liberal press say 1000. Walmart says way less current employees. So lets just play it safe and take that 1000 and double it. Make it 2000.

out of 2.1 million employees that isn't near enough to go union.

No wonder that union is sniffing around. They won't be able to get much more per hour for them but get just 100 a yr in dues and look at all that jack.

Amazing liberals dont see this for what it is. Unions should be protecting higher skilled workers like brick layers, drywallers, electricians, welders etc. This going after low skill retail is a joke.
Not sure the 2.1 million number is correct. The last number I heard was 1.2. Still a lot of folks.

Btw the folks they are going after for the most part are dumb enough to buy the unions bull crap. Promise them the moon and most will buy into it.
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Ok so your problem is the govt doesn't get enough tax from them? What are the numbers on that. As in what did walmart pay in corp tax last yr?

I don't see walmart paying all the much lower then what kmart or sears does to start off do they? I would think a discount store would be a place for entry level, or part time work for someone who had another part time job.

I think 8 bucks an hour about right for the skill level. Maybe you need HS diploma at most.

Whatever tax breaks they get I am really not up on. But I am sure they are all legal. So I am sure other companies use the same ones right?

I'm really wondering what you want Walmart to do? Just go union? make less money? They have a minimum wage to indicate the pay for the lowest of skilled jobs. Those are like discount retail, fast food, restaurant work, etc etc.

Really this just another witchhunt. You don't cry about corp welfare for auto industry. hell we bailed them out a lot more then Walmart will ever get. Same with all the unemployment extensions for union construction people on welfare who the unions couldn't keep on the job somewhere. So union not exactly some we don't need the govt entity. And they dont insure you get to work either. A lot of the time they put business under with demands.
Let's replace WalMart with a company that you think is good corporate citizen. I would be interested to see what you knew about corporate citizenship. Pick a company that you think is righteous.

Nobody is going to destroy your precious Walmart. The point is conversation about corporate greed. I don't care IF they money I am talking about HOW they are making money. Maybe I wasn't clear. Do you like the way WalMart does it corporate business?
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Seriously, isn't there a correlation between Walmart and Ma Bell?
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Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.
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Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.
BUT BUT BUT the make a profit did you not know that should be against the law?
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Do you really believe Walmart's press release?

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Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.
Nah, that's bull****.

They have the highest total, but only because they have the largest profit (profit which is in large part received through exploitation of employees, local municipalities, tax loopholes, etc.)

They gave $320 million in 2010, which is about 2% of profits (on $16bn net income).

Compare that to Kroger, one of their largest competitors who donated 11% of their profits.

Or Macy's, another competitor, 8%

Or Safeway, another competitor, 7.5%

Hell, even the ****ing scummiest corps like Morgan Stanley (5.7%) gave more.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-10...n-america.html

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It's a fact Walmart gave the most money of any corporation.
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Seriously, isn't there a correlation between Walmart and Ma Bell?
safeway king soopers , sears ,kmart, home depot ,sports authority ,entertainment mart , just to name a few competitors . oh yeah that internet thing too
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Dan loves him some corporate welfare.

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lol ...wal mart is evil no doubts there but King soopers safeway etc still reserve shelf space for local farmers and localy made products ..wal mart doesnt ...so when you go to wal mart for goods you are stabbing your neighbors in the back ...
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lol ...wal mart is evil no doubts there but King soopers safeway etc still reserve shelf space for local farmers and localy made products ..wal mart doesnt ...so when you go to wal mart for goods you are stabbing your neighbors in the back ...
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